Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by LVJay:
2014 needs...
1. An NFL pro-style playbook
2. LEARN clock management
Hard to argue! Use all the talent/weapons AND the entire field.
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2014 Team Needs - Updates
Apr 2, 2014 at 5:57 AM
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Apr 2, 2014 at 8:39 AM
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
we need an OC! Chryst and Morton have OC exp
LOL. They got me too...my son and I were high-5ing each other and then I quickly realized what was going on. Love it. This isn't April Fool's day, it's Mod's Day! They are having a blast.
i know lol
Apr 2, 2014 at 10:55 AM
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Niner Talk Trends and Tier Needs updated on the OP.
Seeing it written down makes me feel a lot better going into the draft and esp. with our successes in 6-7th rounders, UDFA's and "camp fodder" or "meh" veteran FA signings around draft time.
Seeing it written down makes me feel a lot better going into the draft and esp. with our successes in 6-7th rounders, UDFA's and "camp fodder" or "meh" veteran FA signings around draft time.
Apr 2, 2014 at 1:06 PM
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We need to go WR/CB/WR or CB/WR/CB to start off.
Apr 2, 2014 at 1:42 PM
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We are close Mayo...I think it will be CB,CB,WR...and out. I know this sounds ridiculous, but I could see us end our draft on day one. If we really jumped up to #1 Cb, and then got the 2nd or 3rd best CB, and then got the WR, by rights, we should be out of draft picks. Obviously that is not the way Trent has drafted last 3 yrs, but with all the depth(excluding QB), anyone drafted who doesn't start, very well may not make the team. Anyone really think TRent is going to be drafting guys in picks #1, 2, or 3 who wont' make the team? I don't think so, hence I believe he jumps up twice,maybe even 3 times. We shall see.
Apr 2, 2014 at 2:04 PM
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^^^ That's close to the NT trend right now:
Trending on NinerTalk - Top 5 Needs: H/W/S = Ideal Height/Weight/Speed; Would need to forfeit picks for Justin Gilbert & Mike Evans.
#1 CB/Dynamic Returner (2) (Justin Gilbert @ #12 = H/W/S + Returner or Jeff Fuller/Jason Verrett)
#2 WR/Dynamic Returner (2) (Size: X - Mike Evans @ #16 or Donte Moncrief @ #66 = H/W/S or Y - Brandin Cooks @ #37 = Returner + S)
#3 S (Calvin Pryor, Hasean Clinton-Dix or Jimmie Ward from picks #27 - #33)
#4 ILB (Shayne Skov in the 2nd round (#56 or #61) or from the 3rd round on, Yawin Smallwood, Chris Borland, Andrew Jackson or Telvin Smith)
#5 C (Marcus Martin @ pick #71)
Read more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/177313-2014-team-needs-updates/#m386Cg0HQK8MZvZT.99
Good thing we have 6 picks in the first 100 to fill 6 of these 7!
Trending on NinerTalk - Top 5 Needs: H/W/S = Ideal Height/Weight/Speed; Would need to forfeit picks for Justin Gilbert & Mike Evans.
#1 CB/Dynamic Returner (2) (Justin Gilbert @ #12 = H/W/S + Returner or Jeff Fuller/Jason Verrett)
#2 WR/Dynamic Returner (2) (Size: X - Mike Evans @ #16 or Donte Moncrief @ #66 = H/W/S or Y - Brandin Cooks @ #37 = Returner + S)
#3 S (Calvin Pryor, Hasean Clinton-Dix or Jimmie Ward from picks #27 - #33)
#4 ILB (Shayne Skov in the 2nd round (#56 or #61) or from the 3rd round on, Yawin Smallwood, Chris Borland, Andrew Jackson or Telvin Smith)
#5 C (Marcus Martin @ pick #71)
Read more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/177313-2014-team-needs-updates/#m386Cg0HQK8MZvZT.99
Good thing we have 6 picks in the first 100 to fill 6 of these 7!
Apr 2, 2014 at 2:24 PM
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:We are close Mayo...I think it will be CB,CB,WR...and out. I know this sounds ridiculous, but I could see us end our draft on day one. If we really jumped up to #1 Cb, and then got the 2nd or 3rd best CB, and then got the WR, by rights, we should be out of draft picks. Obviously that is not the way Trent has drafted last 3 yrs, but with all the depth(excluding QB), anyone drafted who doesn't start, very well may not make the team. Anyone really think TRent is going to be drafting guys in picks #1, 2, or 3 who wont' make the team? I don't think so, hence I believe he jumps up twice,maybe even 3 times. We shall see.
I'll buy what you are selling. I'm all for a defense first draft, and of course getting us two or three good speedster WR's from the draft. After that, we bank or trade down the draft picks for next year. I've been thinking about your post in the other thread a couple of weeks ago where you said trade down our picks since this is a WR heavy draft. We can trade down, get a good (but not a top 10 talent) speed Wide receiver, and use the trade down to garner more picks for next year. The reason I like that idea is because we rarely go to a 3 wide formation, and I think Harbaugh isn't going to have a major scheme change on offense any time soon. I think he's just going after better personnel at the WR, RB, and O Line positions. Harbaugh had Andrew Luck in college, and he was still a run first head coach at Stanford, and he's won with that philosophy everywhere he's gone.
Apr 2, 2014 at 5:52 PM
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Giedi, that would work, once we got our first 3 picks(IF we got our first 3 picks), and then just trade down into next yr whatever else we have left. Here is our conundrum, Giedi, and it is a good one to have. Trent has been building this team for depth for 3 yrs now, and unless a guy starts, he probably won't make the team. The tricky part is that this is the best draft, supposedly, in anywhere from 10 to 30 yrs. But then we go back to the fact that except at Qb we are loaded, and the talent is very, very good. Incidentally, regardless of what happens, we take a 7th rd or more probably a UDFA Qb.
Our conundrum is the richness of the draft, particularly where we need it. I think right now we are carrying 6 (?) corners, and obviously ( I think) we are looking for a pair of starters so we 86 two CBs. We get our fast , long armed sticky fingered WR, and plug him in at slot. Weird, yes, but why not. He doesn't have to look like Welker. Besides 3 big tall fast guys are better than 2 big and 1 small, if equal in ability. Like you, I don't see JH running 3 wides often, but think about this which I have written before.:
Anquan / high draft pick/ vance/ Vernon/ Crabs. Now that would be one helluva 5 wide if there ever was, especially considering Vernon runs a 4.3. We also wouldn't need another WR to pull that off. It would be tough not to get two exceptional CBs, but that will be a lot harder than it sounds. And then sure, if any picks left, slide them over to 2015. I love your idea...I just wish Coach H would take a gander here on occasion( I kinda doubt that, good as some ideas have been here over the last half dozen yrs)
Our conundrum is the richness of the draft, particularly where we need it. I think right now we are carrying 6 (?) corners, and obviously ( I think) we are looking for a pair of starters so we 86 two CBs. We get our fast , long armed sticky fingered WR, and plug him in at slot. Weird, yes, but why not. He doesn't have to look like Welker. Besides 3 big tall fast guys are better than 2 big and 1 small, if equal in ability. Like you, I don't see JH running 3 wides often, but think about this which I have written before.:
Anquan / high draft pick/ vance/ Vernon/ Crabs. Now that would be one helluva 5 wide if there ever was, especially considering Vernon runs a 4.3. We also wouldn't need another WR to pull that off. It would be tough not to get two exceptional CBs, but that will be a lot harder than it sounds. And then sure, if any picks left, slide them over to 2015. I love your idea...I just wish Coach H would take a gander here on occasion( I kinda doubt that, good as some ideas have been here over the last half dozen yrs)
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Apr 2, 2014 at 5:55 PM ]
Apr 3, 2014 at 12:06 PM
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Updated...McCoy gone. #2 or #3 QB needed now...
Apr 3, 2014 at 1:34 PM
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i dont think S is a need at all. Bethea and Reid as starters plus Dahl and Spillman as good backups.
Apr 3, 2014 at 1:37 PM
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Originally posted by Frisco69ers:i dont think S is a need at all. Bethea and Reid as starters plus Dahl and Spillman as good backups.
Dahl?
Apr 3, 2014 at 1:45 PM
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Originally posted by English:Originally posted by Frisco69ers:i dont think S is a need at all. Bethea and Reid as starters plus Dahl and Spillman as good backups.
Dahl?
We'll definitely draft a S, but I doubt it'll be a high draftee.
Apr 3, 2014 at 1:48 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:Thought the depth chart was:
Updated...McCoy gone. #2 or #3 QB needed now...
1. Kap
2. Gabbert
3. Bethel-Thompson
Apr 3, 2014 at 1:56 PM
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Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by NCommand:Thought the depth chart was:
Updated...McCoy gone. #2 or #3 QB needed now...
1. Kap
2. Gabbert
3. Bethel-Thompson
Truth. But we all know Harbaugh is going to handpick a QB to push BT right off the roster. I wonder if he'll be more in the mold of CK or a more pure pocket passer though.
Apr 3, 2014 at 2:15 PM
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Originally posted by NCommand:Oh, I see. Good point!
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by NCommand:Thought the depth chart was:
Updated...McCoy gone. #2 or #3 QB needed now...
1. Kap
2. Gabbert
3. Bethel-Thompson
Truth. But we all know Harbaugh is going to handpick a QB to push BT right off the roster. I wonder if he'll be more in the mold of CK or a more pure pocket passer though.