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One starter that could get cut no one´s talking about

Lol. Ray Mac is always around the ball. Dude is good. Don't know what game some of you are watching, but I think you should watch a little more closely.
It makes no sense whatsoever. We are not in such a dire situation that we need to cut everyone near or over the age of 30 that makes "too much." It is actually feasible that we resign Boldin and Whitner AND extend Aldon and Kaep. It's not likely but it is feasible.
To me Ray Mac was a absolute beast , I mean a total beast when we played the Giants in the 1st NFCC. When he is hurt is the issue , his play drops off so Ray Mac needs to be totally healthy or we need to give him a break during the year as I think he is wearing down quickly ...there is going to be changes in personnel gentlemen and I hope we do smart things to not totally screw up what level of players we have at the moment so let's hope some of these new rookies come in and make a difference as the NFC west will be very tough and I am also very concerened about Carolina.....they are closer than we think, mark my words. I believe the next Super bowl Champ will again be from a very tough NFC .........We have to win the division that's all there is to it.
  • SaksV
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Ray McDonald will not be cut. He's one of the best 3-Technique Ends in the NFL the past 5 years!

Best Case Scenario:

2014
We draft a DE this year in Round 3-6 that can sit, learn and grow.
Carradine hits his potential and rotates with Cowboy somewhere around 40/60
TJE and Ray McDonald rotate somewhere around 30/70
Ian Williams, Quentin Dial and Glenn Dorsey rotate at the Under Tackle spot 40/10/50

2015

Cowboy retires
Glenn Dorsey contract over

Carradine ends up being a stud RE. TJE or Rookie rotate 80/20
2nd Year DE/Lawrence Okoye and Ray McDonald rotate 40/60
Ian Williams, Quentin Dial rotate 60/40

2016
Ray McDonald contract over
Tank Carradine & 3rd Year DE OR Lawrence Okoye start at both DE spots with TJE and rookies/depth player rotating in
Ian Williams and Dial continue to hold down the UT position.

This is obviously assuming Vic Fangio doesn't change or alter his scheme at all...

With the way Baalke has been able to find talent in the trenches coupled with Tomsula's ability to extract the very most production out of his guys, I don't see the 49ers doing anything totally drastic to this Defensive Line for at least 2 more years. We have a very good thing going. If Carradine AND Okoye live up to the hype?? Oh boy, I'm calling it right now we will frickin dominate the LOS every single game.
[ Edited by SaksV on Feb 6, 2014 at 7:02 PM ]
Umm no. I don't get why so many are so content with Ian Williams, Jerod Eddie and Dial. Jerod Eddie was OK, nothing special. And Dial hardly has played and was a 5th round pick. Also Ian Williams I really haven't seen anything special from in the very limited time he's been in there.
  • LVJay
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Patrick Willis will be the one doing the "cutting"
Only way that would happen is if we got Jared Allen for cheap... Aka when pigs fly
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Ray Mac plays better in a 4-3..we shouldn't get rid of someone without a proven back up

I do not think that Ray McDonald has ever played in a 4-3 in the NFL.
we used to line up in the 4-3 a lot before Harbaugh. He would be one of the Tackles and would always get pressure on the QB or need a double team (has a great first step). With the 3-4 he constantly has a double team which doesn't show up on the stat sheet.
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Feb 7, 2014 at 8:24 AM ]
ray mac ain't going NO WHERE! We'd dump justin smith before dumping ray.
Originally posted by 9ermex:
Could be Ray Mcdonald. He has been injured the past couple of years, he makes a good chunk of money this next season and with the up and coming play of Tony Jerrod-Eddie, the debut of Tank Carradine and the play of Corey Lemonier not to mention Ian Williams coming back and Quinton Dial maturing as a player he could be a cap casualty that would free us up to sing maybe crabs? Thoughts?

No one is talking about it because there is no chance (baring a major injury in the offseason/camp) he's going to be cut.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
However, his injury issues have been somewhat disconcerting,

Injury issues? An NFL player that has got hurt a few times? Say it ain't so!!!

Ray has no more "injury issues" than anyone else in the NFL. It can be said he's been extremely healthy for an NFL D lineman actually considering he has played in at least 15 games a year since 2008, except for last year, where he started 14 games, and didn't miss a game at all in three of the last six seasons.

Talking about Ray McDonald like he has some long history of missing playing time due to injury is at best lazy and at worst downright (self-censored).
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
we used to line up in the 4-3 a lot before Harbaugh. He would be one of the Tackles and would always get pressure on the QB or need a double team (has a great first step). With the 3-4 he constantly has a double team which doesn't show up on the stat sheet.

We didn't line up in a 34 any more than we do now. If you're talking about Nickle then yes, Manusky did a lot of that, but the team still does depending on who they are playing. There have been plenty of games of the last three seasons, the Packers games for example, where there were four guys with their hand in the dirt for more plays than we ran our base 34.
Originally posted by iLL49er:
5.4M is dirty cheap for ray mac...he's staying


because he signed a new deal like 2yrs ago. FO does a good job at signing players before they get good, saves them money. Ian Williams, for example, if comes back and just dominates, we have a good player for a cap friendly price. Ray Mac aint goin nowhere, he's an unsung hero. Does his job so ahmad brooks can shine
Originally posted by iLL49er:
5.4M is dirty cheap for ray mac...he's staying


Yep, you always keep the players who perform above their contract. We bought low with Ray Mac, and now we get the pay off.

Buy low sell high.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
5.4M is dirty cheap for ray mac...he's staying


Yep, you always keep the players who perform above their contract. We bought low with Ray Mac, and now we get the pay off.

Buy low sell high.

That's why we're replacing him with Okoye ya dig?