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What do the 49ers need to be a better team?

What do the 49ers need to be a better team?

Originally posted by T-9ers:
Kaep has to get on Wilson's level. After watching Wilson in the Super Bowl, the clutch 3rd down conversions, how he uses his legs make to make throws down field, how he plays within his system, how he spreads the ball around, and doesn't blow his teams chances to win at the end. We may have the supremely talented QB, but that Wilson kid has composure, he has brains, he has what Kaep lacks. When I listen to both of them speak, Russell comes off as the smarter guy, a real old school football player. Kaep appears simple minded and vain to me, extreme body art, arguing on social media like a tool, maybe he we should convert him to wide receiver. Now a lot of folks are going say say Kaep got us real close, but that doesn't mean he doesn't need to get better. Manning's struggles against the Seahawks D doesn't get him off the hook because Seattle's D ain't going anywhere. We're going to be facing these guys for years, besides many of us new there was a good chance Manning was going to struggle, that's what he does in big games. A shut down corner will improve our defense, it's what seperate our D from there's, but I don't believe it's a personel issue as much as it is playing smarter, coaching smarter, and getting Kaep to play like a champion.
Your compare and contrast with Wilson & Kaepernick is spot on. Colin looks, sounds and acts like a 22 year old child. Shocking he Quarterbacks like one as well. Wilson is a married man who was the starting QB as a Freshman in the ACC. He is just head and shoulders ahead of Colin in terms of maturity and experience. Kaepernick is that confused boy that grew up in a sheltered home and is still trying to rebel. He will be 27 years old next year. Figure it out now or he never will.
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I think the voting is pretty accurate right now. It is all about the offense (surprise!). 65% see that it is about a QB that can go through progressions and read defenses (26%), an OC that is more about tricks and gimmicks than play design and sequencing (20%), and an offense that becomes very predictable much of the time, especially in the red zone (19%).

Of course a lot of that rolls down from the QB. The OC can only call stuff the QB can execute. If the QB is limited in terms of what he can do, the offense is going to become rather predictable except for some trick plays. So it looks a lot like chicken/egg. Which comes first?

I don't see the offense opening up unless the OC is changed and the OC won't be changed unless Baalke steps in and forces Harbaugh to make the change. After all, this is Harbaugh's offense and Roman is his hired gun. Consequently, unless it becomes Harbaugh's idea to change, it will take an HC change to change the offense.

One thing that is undeniable is that the team needs a big, fast receiver that can demand the attention of a safety. As long as Seattle stays in a Cover 3 (single safety) they can take away the passing game.

In order to have a chance in the playoffs, you have to win your division. In this case, we need a receiver that is bigger than Seahawk safety 5'10" Earl Thomas. Another Quinton Patton-size guy is not the answer. It would be great if Jon Baldwin suddenly came out of the phone booth but I don't plan on that. However, his size would be ideal. There are some very good big receivers coming out of this draft. Baalke needs to grab a good one that can compete with Thomas in the back end.

I don't see the center as being as important as some but it looks like a given that Kilgore will replace Goodwin next season. I don't see Goodwin taking a cut to stay and his cap number is too big to stay here.

So it begins and ends with better play from CK. I think everyone realizes that, however, he needs that deep threat that, along with his arm strength, will allow the offense to become more explosive. From there it is just to hope that Harbaugh is capable of correcting Kaepernick's weaknesses and willing to exploit the weapons on the team.

Easier said than done, but not impossible.
Originally posted by Forty_Niners:
Your compare and contrast with Wilson & Kaepernick is spot on. Colin looks, sounds and acts like a 22 year old child. Shocking he Quarterbacks like one as well. Wilson is a married man who was the starting QB as a Freshman in the ACC. He is just head and shoulders ahead of Colin in terms of maturity and experience. Kaepernick is that confused boy that grew up in a sheltered home and is still trying to rebel. He will be 27 years old next year. Figure it out now or he never will.

Your hidden agenda is becoming rather obvious.

You seem hung up, in this thread and others, on how Kaepernick looks and dresses. How he sounds? Like, do any of these things impact on his ability to play quarterback? No.

The last para about him being like a confused boy is merely you forcing an interpretation on events. Regarding the age issue I suggest you research how old Steve Young was when he picked up the starting role. And even then, he had a lot to learn.

Get off the soapbox.
Originally posted by T-9ers:
Kaep appears simple minded and vain to me, extreme body art, arguing on social media like a tool, maybe he we should convert him to wide receiver.

Simple minded and maybe we should convert him to wide receiver.

SMH. Your post wins an award but I don't expect you will be proud of it.
Originally posted by English:
Your hidden agenda is becoming rather obvious.

You seem hung up, in this thread and others, on how Kaepernick looks and dresses. How he sounds? Like, do any of these things impact on his ability to play quarterback? No.

The last para about him being like a confused boy is merely you forcing an interpretation on events. Regarding the age issue I suggest you research how old Steve Young was when he picked up the starting role. And even then, he had a lot to learn.

Get off the soapbox.

The way an individual looks and dresses is a representation of the sort of people he associates with. Furthermore, the Quarterback position is the most demanding in American sports. It goes way beyond simply snapping and throwing a football.

Colin has stated he purposely dresses the way he does to challenge cultural norms. This is not a distraction? How is this different than a Homosexual QB that dresses flamboyant and attempts to break cultural norms?
Originally posted by Forty_Niners:
Originally posted by English:
Your hidden agenda is becoming rather obvious.

You seem hung up, in this thread and others, on how Kaepernick looks and dresses. How he sounds? Like, do any of these things impact on his ability to play quarterback? No.

The last para about him being like a confused boy is merely you forcing an interpretation on events. Regarding the age issue I suggest you research how old Steve Young was when he picked up the starting role. And even then, he had a lot to learn.

Get off the soapbox.

The way an individual looks and dresses is a representation of the sort of people he associates with. Furthermore, the Quarterback position is the most demanding in American sports. It goes way beyond simply snapping and throwing a football.

Colin has stated he purposely dresses the way he does to challenge cultural norms. This is not a distraction? How is this different than a Homosexual QB that dresses flamboyant and attempts to break cultural norms?

You are using it to assess his abilities as a quarterback. Which is utter nonsense. Move on.
A more aggressive and effective passing attack. An improved running game. So, basically a better offense. An offense that puts pressure on opposing offenses to keep up.
Originally posted by English:
You are using it to assess his abilities as a quarterback. Which is utter nonsense. Move on.

A 27 year old that dresses like an adolescent has obvious mental issues. Like I checked the QB position is mostly mental.

Considering the excellence that Bill Walsh stood by, this defending of all things Kaepernick because he's currently the starting QB is pathetic.
Originally posted by Forty_Niners:
Originally posted by English:
You are using it to assess his abilities as a quarterback. Which is utter nonsense. Move on.

A 27 year old that dresses like an adolescent has obvious mental issues. Like I checked the QB position is mostly mental.

Considering the excellence that Bill Walsh stood by, this defending of all things Kaepernick because he's currently the starting QB is pathetic.

Not sure even where to begin with this post. You are obsessed with how he looks and dressed and are pretending this impacts on his play.

Your last paragraph is complete nonsense. Where is the defending of all things Kaepernick? What has Bill Walsh got to do with it?
Need better passing from our qb.

I don't want to hear about not having enough weapons for Colin either. At the end of the year when we/he needed weapons, he had them in spades. Lets see, one of the best TE's, best hands WR in the NFL in Crab and the best toss it up and catch it WR in the NFL in Boldin. On top of that we have Frank and one of if not the best Olines in football. Wholly crap people who else has more than that? Nobody.

So please stop with the excuses for Kaep, he needs to work on his craft a whole lot more than he has in the past (coach's too) Its great that he can run like the wind and make plays but he also must learn how to keep calm in the pocket and go thru his progressions.

Oh and our D is just as good as Seattles and our kickers are some of if not the best in the NFL, so its pretty obvious were we need to improve.

Yes, they will draft another WR and that's great to add still another weapon for Kaep but if he doesn't go thru his progressions on a regular basis what good is having 3 top notch WR's?

I think he can improve with coaching and dedication, just hope he puts in the time and effort.
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Originally posted by Forty_Niners:
The way an individual looks and dresses is a representation of the sort of people he associates with. Furthermore, the Quarterback position is the most demanding in American sports. It goes way beyond simply snapping and throwing a football.

Colin has stated he purposely dresses the way he does to challenge cultural norms. This is not a distraction? How is this different than a Homosexual QB that dresses flamboyant and attempts to break cultural norms?
You are way off base. Yes, he needs to get better as a passer but the connection to the way he dresses is your own fabrication.

I happen to live just a few miles up the road from where he grew up. I also have a part-time job in a specialty shop where his mother and father shop frequently. They have mentioned, and been quoted in articles about him, that he has always been the kid that tried new styles first. He was the first in his school to have corn rows, first to wear certain new styles, etc. That is just who he has always been. He also has done a great deal of community service work where he demonstrated a great deal of compassion and concern for the needy in his community. He is a complex guy that doesn't fit in a nice little box.

Time for you to go on a new hunt. This one is over.
Originally posted by English:
Not sure even where to begin with this post. You are obsessed with how he looks and dressed and are pretending this impacts on his play.

Your last paragraph is complete nonsense. Where is the defending of all things Kaepernick? What has Bill Walsh got to do with it?

If dress code doesn't matter then why do judges wear robes, why do main & assistant coaches in basketball wear suites? Why and what do upscale establishments have to gain by having dress codes?

Colin is attempting to break a cultural norm and that is why he is being critiqued for it. If it were merely no issue, then why does he speak out in favor of his "style"?
Bill Walsh committed to excellence. The 49ers treated games like a business trip. It was all class on and off the field. Now we are doing the opposite. Arguing with Sherman after the Super Bowl? That's the behavior of Non-QB. The leader of men. The guy who handles every single offensive snap of the season.
Originally posted by rk1642:
Need better passing from our qb.

I don't want to hear about not having enough weapons for Colin either. At the end of the year when we/he needed weapons, he had them in spades. Lets see, one of the best TE's, best hands WR in the NFL in Crab and the best toss it up and catch it WR in the NFL in Boldin. On top of that we have Frank and one of if not the best Olines in football. Wholly crap people who else has more than that? Nobody.

So please stop with the excuses for Kaep, he needs to work on his craft a whole lot more than he has in the past (coach's too) Its great that he can run like the wind and make plays but he also must learn how to keep calm in the pocket and go thru his progressions.

Oh and our D is just as good as Seattles and our kickers are some of if not the best in the NFL, so its pretty obvious were we need to improve.

Yes, they will draft another WR and that's great to add still another weapon for Kaep but if he doesn't go thru his progressions on a regular basis what good is having 3 top notch WR's?

I think he can improve with coaching and dedication, just hope he puts in the time and effort.

This.
Originally posted by Forty_Niners:
Originally posted by English:
Not sure even where to begin with this post. You are obsessed with how he looks and dressed and are pretending this impacts on his play.

Your last paragraph is complete nonsense. Where is the defending of all things Kaepernick? What has Bill Walsh got to do with it?

If dress code doesn't matter then why do judges wear robes, why do main & assistant coaches in basketball wear suites? Why and what do upscale establishments have to gain by having dress codes?

Colin is attempting to break a cultural norm and that is why he is being critiqued for it. If it were merely no issue, then why does he speak out in favor of his "style"?
Bill Walsh committed to excellence. The 49ers treated games like a business trip. It was all class on and off the field. Now we are doing the opposite. Arguing with Sherman after the Super Bowl? That's the behavior of Non-QB. The leader of men. The guy who handles every single offensive snap of the season.

On the subject of suit wearing I notice you don't mention Nolan. Odd, for a 49ers fan. Maybe suits aren't so important.

For the rest, again, there is no discussion on his football skills. Just your prejudices.
Think u forgot fire WR coach ....