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What talent have the 49ers really added in the past couple years?

Originally posted by Canadian9erfan:
toughness and physical play will beat finess in the NFL as we saw from the superbowl. So i hope we draft hard nosed, tough players at whatever position they might be. i want teams scared to play us due to the hits we put on them.

wrong. Not in the 21st century NFL. You have to be ALLOWED to play like that. For some reason in 2013 the Seahawks were allowed to do so. I would not bet on it happening again.

The Niners need to embrace their history. I was never a fan of the approach taken on by Nolan, Sing and now Harbaugh. I am happy and a bit surprised it led to us becoming a contender, but not really surprised that it failed to produce the 6th Ring.

We need to go back to the Golden days, model ourselves more like the Packers, which of course is simply a copy of the old style Niners.

Kaep can be Steve Young
The threads original question is mind boggling, what talent have they brought in? Cereal? Bowman, Skuta, Lemonoir, Brock, Spillman, Osgood, Patton, Hunter, TJE, Dorsey, and even Williams before his injury. Then add in some late rounders for players that wouldnt see the field (Parys, Cam), this FO has stacked this roster and still has a bounty of draft picks.
SD is correct on tthis one. Right now this team is looking like the Eagles.
Originally posted by Stevec9932:


Clearly the Defense won this game.. Just wait until they pay Russell Wilson 18-20 min a season and dont have money to pay the Shermans, Chancellors, Watsons, Avrils, Wrights of the world... Dont worry my friend the team will be picked apart and now that they have a ring its $$$ time

From what I understand they have the vast majority of their key players locked up in contracts for the next 3-4 years. While some will probably demand a renegotiation, there's also the fact that Carroll apparently has a system that players love. That might be worth a hometown discount for some of these guys. I think they are a far way away from salary cap hell. We can't sit there and wait for them to implode. We need to get the killer instinct they do and stop playing it conservative or else we'll find ourselves being perennially second place.
Originally posted by OrlandoNiner:
Originally posted by Stevec9932:


Clearly the Defense won this game.. Just wait until they pay Russell Wilson 18-20 min a season and dont have money to pay the Shermans, Chancellors, Watsons, Avrils, Wrights of the world... Dont worry my friend the team will be picked apart and now that they have a ring its $$$ time

From what I understand they have the vast majority of their key players locked up in contracts for the next 3-4 years. While some will probably demand a renegotiation, there's also the fact that Carroll apparently has a system that players love. That might be worth a hometown discount for some of these guys. I think they are a far way away from salary cap hell. We can't sit there and wait for them to implode. We need to get the killer instinct they do and stop playing it conservative or else we'll find ourselves being perennially second place.

not as rosy as you think...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1860605-an-in-depth-look-into-whats-ahead-for-the-seattle-seahawks-2014-offseason

second highest payroll already too.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/team/seattle-seahawks/salary/67060?q=seattle-seahawks
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Originally posted by BrianGO:
Kap
Aldon Smith
Reid
Boldin
Carlos Rogers
Culliver
Hunter
Miller
Dorsey
Ian Williams
Lemonier
Brooks (became a starter)
Ray McDonald (became a starter)
Brock (became a starter)
Brown (became a starter)
Boone (became a starter)
Bowman (became a starter)

Plus:
Lattimore
Carradine


So that's 19 players, that are either starters or major contributors / future contributors to our team, found in the last three years.

Iupati and A Davis were both drafted by Baalke. Wouldn't they bring the list up to 21?
3 straight years in the NFCC, lost to the eventual champs 3 straight years. Most teams in the NFL would kill for our talent, imagine if this team was in the NFC East... o_O
How many of the players below that are still on the team will make significant impact next year?

2011 draft

1 A.J. Jenkins WR Illinois

2 LaMichael James RB Oregon

4 Joe Looney C/G Wake Forest

5 Darius Fleming OLB Notre Dame

6 Trent Robinson SS Michigan State

6 Jason Slowey T Western Oregon

7 Cam Johnson DE Virginia


2012 draft

1. Aldon Smith, OLB, Missouri

2. Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada

3. Chris Culliver, CB, South Carolina

4. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma State

5. Daniel Kilgore, OL, Appalachian State

6. Ronald Johnson, WR, USC

7. Colin Jones, S, TCU

8. Bruce Miller, DL/FB, Central Florida

9. Michael Person, OL, Montana State

10. Curtis Holcomb, CB, Florida A&M


2013 draft

(18). Eric Reid, Safety, LSU

2(40). Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, Defensive End, Florida State

2(55). Vance McDonald, Tight End, Rice

3(88). Corey Lemonier, Outside Linebacker, Auburn

4(128). Quinton Patton, Wide Receiver, Louisiana Tech

4(131). Marcus Lattimore, Running Back, South Carolina

5(157). Quinton Dial, Defensive Lineman, Alabama

6(180). Nick Moody, Linebacker, Florida State

7(237). B.J. Daniels, Quarterback, South Florida

7(246). Carter Bykowski, Offensive Tackle, Iowa State

7(252). Marcus Cooper, Defensive Back, Rutgers
2011 was horribad. 2012 was imo one of the greatest drafts for a team ever. 2013 will be viewed as a home run in 2-3 years. Once you consider all the extra picks Baalke has been able to pick up, no complaints over here.
Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
What about team chemistry? Carroll is a player's coach who has surrounded himself with brilliant tacticians. His players and coaches love him. And have we heard one complaint at all from anyone about playing time?

We can't say the same with Harbaugh and some of his player personnel handlings have been questionable.
sources???
Originally posted by communist:
Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
What about team chemistry? Carroll is a player's coach who has surrounded himself with brilliant tacticians. His players and coaches love him. And have we heard one complaint at all from anyone about playing time?

We can't say the same with Harbaugh and some of his player personnel handlings have been questionable.
sources???

The whole basis for this thread is BS.
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Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
How many of the players below that are still on the team will make significant impact next year?

2011 draft

1 A.J. Jenkins WR Illinois

2 LaMichael James RB Oregon

4 Joe Looney C/G Wake Forest

5 Darius Fleming OLB Notre Dame

6 Trent Robinson SS Michigan State

6 Jason Slowey T Western Oregon

7 Cam Johnson DE Virginia


2012 draft

1. Aldon Smith, OLB, Missouri

2. Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada

3. Chris Culliver, CB, South Carolina

4. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma State

5. Daniel Kilgore, OL, Appalachian State

6. Ronald Johnson, WR, USC

7. Colin Jones, S, TCU

8. Bruce Miller, DL/FB, Central Florida

9. Michael Person, OL, Montana State

10. Curtis Holcomb, CB, Florida A&M


2013 draft

(18). Eric Reid, Safety, LSU

2(40). Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, Defensive End, Florida State

2(55). Vance McDonald, Tight End, Rice

3(88). Corey Lemonier, Outside Linebacker, Auburn

4(128). Quinton Patton, Wide Receiver, Louisiana Tech

4(131). Marcus Lattimore, Running Back, South Carolina

5(157). Quinton Dial, Defensive Lineman, Alabama

6(180). Nick Moody, Linebacker, Florida State

7(237). B.J. Daniels, Quarterback, South Florida

7(246). Carter Bykowski, Offensive Tackle, Iowa State

7(252). Marcus Cooper, Defensive Back, Rutgers


Originally posted by 24plus25er:
2011 was horribad. 2012 was imo one of the greatest drafts for a team ever. 2013 will be viewed as a home run in 2-3 years. Once you consider all the extra picks Baalke has been able to pick up, no complaints over here.

I know it is just semantics but the fact you both have 2 entire years backwards is just LOL.
Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
How many of the players below that are still on the team will make significant impact next year?

2011 draft

1 A.J. Jenkins WR Illinois

2 LaMichael James RB Oregon

4 Joe Looney C/G Wake Forest

5 Darius Fleming OLB Notre Dame

6 Trent Robinson SS Michigan State

6 Jason Slowey T Western Oregon

7 Cam Johnson DE Virginia


2012 draft

1. Aldon Smith, OLB, Missouri

2. Colin Kaepernick, QB, Nevada

3. Chris Culliver, CB, South Carolina

4. Kendall Hunter, RB, Oklahoma State

5. Daniel Kilgore, OL, Appalachian State

6. Ronald Johnson, WR, USC

7. Colin Jones, S, TCU

8. Bruce Miller, DL/FB, Central Florida

9. Michael Person, OL, Montana State

10. Curtis Holcomb, CB, Florida A&M


2013 draft

(18). Eric Reid, Safety, LSU

2(40). Cornellius "Tank" Carradine, Defensive End, Florida State

2(55). Vance McDonald, Tight End, Rice

3(88). Corey Lemonier, Outside Linebacker, Auburn

4(128). Quinton Patton, Wide Receiver, Louisiana Tech

4(131). Marcus Lattimore, Running Back, South Carolina

5(157). Quinton Dial, Defensive Lineman, Alabama

6(180). Nick Moody, Linebacker, Florida State

7(237). B.J. Daniels, Quarterback, South Florida

7(246). Carter Bykowski, Offensive Tackle, Iowa State

7(252). Marcus Cooper, Defensive Back, Rutgers

You have to define "significant", but I think the guys I highlighted will have a hand in the outcome of the upcoming season.

...and as mentioned before, you have 2011 and 2012 backwards. Why leave out 2010? Davis, Iupati, and Bowman.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Feb 3, 2014 at 1:31 PM ]
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Originally posted by 24plus25er:
3 straight years in the NFCC, lost to the eventual champs 3 straight years. Most teams in the NFL would kill for our talent, imagine if this team was in the NFC East... o_O

but now, as you well know,, the bar is set higher and while many of us where just happy to be in the playoffs this year due to things that went south earlier in the year,,, it is really now time to get over that hump. you can only be a bridesmaid so many times.
Originally posted by communist:
Usually a drafted player should be evaluated after two years as a starter at the earliest...now, you come along and want to judge the last year's draft and the one before???
as a side note: we found a starting FS last year who replaced Goldson without any quality loss.

Are you even going to try defend the 2012 draft? Please, go on. Do it. I dare you.
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