Originally posted by Niners99:
Some of you guys dont seem to understand the criteria. If were picking a team based on the best players who have ever suited up as Niners, itd just be littered with HOFers at every position. Im talking the best at each literal position, AS Niners.
Fred Dean had one BIG year as a Niner, but most of his HOF career was achieved with SD.
And Dwaine Board played RDE, not Left.
In 3 seasons as a Niner, Roy Barker racked up 30.0 sacks and 10 FF. We havent really had a mainstay player at LDE, so Barker won that spot for me based on big production in a short amount of time.
You lost a TON of credibility by picking Deese over Staley, and then calling Staley "overrated", and saying he gets beat all the time. What is that based on, Mr. scout? Because Pro Football Focus scouts every play of every game, and the results say Staley has been ELITE the last few years.
Deese never even made a pro bowl team. Staley is a 3 time All-Pro.
Board lined up at both spots, stop reading off ProFootballReference.
Fred Dean had 2 huge years for the 49ers - sacks weren't an official statistic in 1981, but if they had been you'd see that Dean had 12 sacks in 11 games with the 49ers that year. He also had a sack in that year's SB. I can't remember if he had any in the playoff games. And he was one of those guys who brought HEAT...where the sack totals don't even do it justice. Just like Charles Haley and Derrick Thomas...how many sacks they recorded in a given year was more a matter of chance...how many times they were able to finish, but regardless of what they totaled in a given year they were constantly pressuring the QB. Then there are certain guys who are all-or-nothing rushers - DeMarcus Ware is an example. If it's not a sack, he's not doing much in the passing game.
Derrick Deese went like 30 consecutive games at LT without giving up a sack...and that was when the 49ers actually threw the football. Staley gets voted to the Pro Bowl on reputation
; one that emerged in 2011, because the 49ers have been winning games and are successful on the ground, and the media has hyped the offensive line thanks to all the picks, regardless of how well the picks are actually playing or not.
You can't evaluate offensive linemen based on how many Pro Bowls they make - it's a position of reputation, where once a guy gets a reputation among players and fans for being good, they just check off his name and vote for him, since there aren't any statistics readily available for them.
[ Edited by 49ersScoutHistorian on Jan 30, 2014 at 9:54 PM ]