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2013 - NFC Championship Round: Thoughts after watching the game...

Originally posted by T-9ers:
He choked. There was a linebacker underneath and the best corner in the league on Crabtree's hip. 50 seconds on the clock with two timeouts left, he forced a low percentage completion. There were many options, he chose the wrong one, that's a choke.


Did Jeff Garcia choke in the NFC Championship game against Tampa Bay? No. Good for him. But why didn't he choke, because we were getting MASSACRED in the game and he never had an OPPORTUNITY to choke.

Did Drew Brees choke against Seattle the week before? No. Good for him. But why not? Because his offense didn't score s**t for 3/4ths of the game, so he didn't have an OPPORTUNITY to choke.

Did Alex Smith choke against the New York Giants at HOME in the NFC championship game? No. Good for him. But why not? Because the offense did NOTHING for 6 consecutive possessions at the end and got nowhere near sniffing an opportunity to score, therefore he also did not have the OPPORTUNITY to choke.


When your quarterback is good, and always gives his team a chance to win, he will either win it (Green Bay, Carolina, Atlanta) or lose it in the end (Seattle, Baltimore). I LOVE the fact that we have a quarterback who actually gives himself a chance to either win a game, or "choke" a game at the end.
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Originally posted by SFL49ER:
Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Niners were in the PERFECT position to win, in the red zone, with 2 time outs and 1 minute left. They should have lined up wide, and let Kap run it twice. He was breaking through without problem. No idea why he wasn't doing that all game. With those legs, all he needed was 4 steps.

They shut that down in the second half with a fifth player up to spy Kap, sometimes a sixth. The best plan was to pass the ball

Yeah they backed their corner backs on our WRs, switched to more zone and played to contain Kap.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Did Jeff Garcia choke in the NFC Championship game against Tampa Bay? No. Good for him. But why didn't he choke, because we were getting MASSACRED in the game and he never had an OPPORTUNITY to choke.

Did Drew Brees choke against Seattle the week before? No. Good for him. But why not? Because his offense didn't score s**t for 3/4ths of the game, so he didn't have an OPPORTUNITY to choke.

Did Alex Smith choke against the New York Giants at HOME in the NFC championship game? No. Good for him. But why not? Because the offense did NOTHING for 6 consecutive possessions at the end and got nowhere near sniffing an opportunity to score, therefore he also did not have the OPPORTUNITY to choke.


When your quarterback is good, and always gives his team a chance to win, he will either win it (Green Bay, Carolina, Atlanta) or lose it in the end (Seattle, Baltimore). I LOVE the fact that we have a quarterback who actually gives himself a chance to either win a game, or "choke" a game at the end.

Beautifully stated. Great point.
The INTs were horrible thorws.
What stands out is that all of his passes are on a rope, the fade to crab was a bad pass, it should have been layed in front of him over his head, instead it was flat and underthrown.

Kap has a lot to learn, yet he has made significant progress this year.
[ Edited by JeuSF49 on Jan 21, 2014 at 3:55 AM ]
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Did Jeff Garcia choke in the NFC Championship game against Tampa Bay? No. Good for him. But why didn't he choke, because we were getting MASSACRED in the game and he never had an OPPORTUNITY to choke.

Did Drew Brees choke against Seattle the week before? No. Good for him. But why not? Because his offense didn't score s**t for 3/4ths of the game, so he didn't have an OPPORTUNITY to choke.

Did Alex Smith choke against the New York Giants at HOME in the NFC championship game? No. Good for him. But why not? Because the offense did NOTHING for 6 consecutive possessions at the end and got nowhere near sniffing an opportunity to score, therefore he also did not have the OPPORTUNITY to choke.


When your quarterback is good, and always gives his team a chance to win, he will either win it (Green Bay, Carolina, Atlanta) or lose it in the end (Seattle, Baltimore). I LOVE the fact that we have a quarterback who actually gives himself a chance to either win a game, or "choke" a game at the end.

Beautifully stated. Great point.

Good point. The what ifs of the 2011 NFC Championship are quite painful too.

BTW, Garcia was NFC Divisional round......that wildcard against the Giants certainly felt like a divisional game.
My dad who is not a hardcore football watcher game in and game out like all of us but brings a nice outside perspective said to me today:

"Kaepernick still has some way to go before he rivals Montana. He needs to mature some more and take charge of the team. Hopefully by next year he will be closer to achieving his full potential."

Interesting stuff. Most of us cannot see the forest from the trees because we are knee deep into s**t like Greg Roman's AR, CK's progressions, etc.
To dispute the 4 straight wins on the road, please look at the 2010 Green Bay Packers:

- Wild Card @ Philly
- Divisional @ Atlanta
- Championship @ Chicago
- Super Bowl @ Cowboys Stadium (While this may not be considered a road game, it's certainly not a home game.)
Originally posted by bzborow1:
Kaep's biggest asset can also be his Achilles heel. He can make plays with his legs (the 50+ yard run) and passing (the 3rd quarter td to boldin) that nobody else can because he takes a lot of risks out there. For instance, that TD to Boldin could just as easily have been an interception but because he made the throw on the money it worked. That same bravado that allows him to make the spectacular plays is also what can kill him. Simply put, he plays sometimes with too much confidence. Kaepernick will likely tell you he'll make that throw to Crabtree a 1000 times in 1 on 1 coverage because he believes he can make that throw. Perhaps with time he'll improve on the WHEN to make that throw.

We aren't going to win in Seattle doing the same things, it's insanity. Running our power offense against their power defense with a loaded box hasn't worked with regularity in Seattle so why keep jamming a round peg in a square hole? I won't prescribe a solution because I am unqualified to do so, but I know when I see something that is consistently failing.

My biggest concerns moving forward are re-signing the right guys and getting more from our drafts. If we're being honest the last two drafts has yielded Eric Reid and, even for a good team like the 49ers, that's pathetic.

I agree, everyone keeps saying how we are going to re-load with all these drafts but the last 2 drafts with a lot of picks has only produced Eric Reid thus far. We should have taken Reyes over Tank but we'll see what he can do next year. Hopefully Lattimore can stay healthy and can produce to. Blowing that Jenkins pick is going to catch up with us though if it has not already
Originally posted by T-9ers:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by T-9ers:
Kaep choked, face it. It's his job to get balls to his receivers and not turn it over. Of course he was running well, because he couldn't figure out how to complete a pass. He shouldn't have to run the ball so much. I'm not saying we're going to replace him, as we know good QB's are hard to come by, but the bottom line is he going to have to get smarter between the ears to win the big one. I think he can still be a great one, he needs more time though.

I really don't think not doing something never done in NFL history against the #1 ranked defense in the NFL and possibly one of the best secondaries ever assembled a "choke". If that throw at the end is against just about anyone BUT Richard Sherman we are probably looking at a game in NY in 2 weeks. The other guys get paid to. You make a play. Sometimes the other guy makes a better one.

That's my opinion anyway.

He choked. There was a linebacker underneath and the best corner in the league on Crabtree's hip. 50 seconds on the clock with two timeouts left, he forced a low percentage completion. There were many options, he chose the wrong one, that's a choke.


Agree to disagree. He put the ball where he thought it wouldn't get intercepted. Sherman made a great play to bat the ball to his player. Sometimes the other guy makes a better play.
This may be hard for us to admit but to a man the better team won. There I said it! May the truth set me free lol. They made the big plays required to win a game like that against fairly even teams. Give them credit. The detailed play for play analysis is cool but in simple terms they won the turnover battle, they won in terms of big passing plays, they ran the ball better with Lynch, their special teams contributed with a huge return and they adjusted and contained Kap's scrambling in the 2nd half. All of those things add up to them winning even though we came close we just werent good enough. We are "this" close to being champions but we have to improve in all areas because as we see it doesnt come easy.
Originally posted by Baylor49er:
To dispute the 4 straight wins on the road, please look at the 2010 Green Bay Packers:

- Wild Card @ Philly
- Divisional @ Atlanta
- Championship @ Chicago
- Super Bowl @ Cowboys Stadium (While this may not be considered a road game, it's certainly not a home game.)


The Super Bowl isn't a road game...it's a neutral site. Neither team has a homefield advantage. No team has ever won 4 straight road games.
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Originally posted by 24plus25er:
I think the biggest take away is that Kap now has the confidence to go into Seattle and win. 12th man is just an urban legend.

*Speculation* It wasn't as loud as the last 2 years in the regular season. Season ticket holders seeing a pay day?
OK...I just had to post this because it's so funny to me. I posted a "Gratz" message over on seahawks.net. I'm not happy the Niners lost, but I wanted to be gracious and those guys who have been waiting a long, long time for a Championship. I can't stand Richard Sherman, but I don't really hate the Seahawks. They are a rival for sure, but I respect them as a mirror image of the niners. A guy over there came over here and saw my comments on Sherman and has gone full retard.

He's PMing me so I decided I'd repost the conversation here. Its pretty funny. The subject line of his post is "You're a fraud". The funniest part is that he acts like its some big secret that I post on both sites. I've gone to such extreme measures to hide it too with me always talking about the 'zone over there and you know, having the exact same sreen name. LOL.



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You act like a respectable poster on this site and trash the Seahawks on 49erswebzone. You are a fraud. You mad bro? HAHAHAHA. Sherman made your team his b***h. He was the best player on the field yesterday and the best defensive player in the league this year. Whatever ignorant stuff you say, doesn't change that. Go f**k yourself.Continue to be jealous of the Seahawks. The 49ers could only dream of having the Seahawks present and future. LOL.



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How am I a fraud? I genuinely congratulated the Hawks on their win. I also HATE Richard Sherman. Im free to hold that opinion. It doesn't make me a fraud. It's not like it's a secret I post on both sites. Lol. I didn't have to congratulate you guys at all. I suggest you get a thicker skin.



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The funny part is you probably read my Sherman post and completely missed the post about how I didn't think the Bowman incident was indicative of the fan base and DEFENDED posters on this site. Sigh. Maybe I was wrong. Lol.



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I'm not the one TRASHING and HATING people I don't know. I reserve HATE for people like the Taliban and Al Qaeda and rapists and murderers. How do you explain hating a football player? Are your priorities that out of whack? What has he done to you? You are complete scum. The worst of the worst. Worse than the Seahawks fans that threw food at Bowman, who are also scum. You are probably one of the worst human beings I have seen as a sports fan in my life. I hope you don't stab people, like your fellow 49ers fans. Sickening attitude that you have. Shame on you. Richard Sherman is a brilliant football player, that you should respect. He dominated your team. Is that why you hate him? LOL. You are a completely sore loser. Continue to be jealous of Richard Sherman and the Seattle Seahawks. You wish you could have his successful life, while you live in your mother's basement. LOL. HAHAHAHAHAHA.



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You're a fraud, because your congratulations are not sincere. You don't mean or believe them and you know that. Everything that you post on this site is b******t. Especially, when everything you post on webzone is the complete opposite of what you post here. And you act like we (and our mods) don't see it. LOL. I would respect you more, if you spoke your true beliefs on this site, like many of your peers. The 49ers fans that come on this site and trash the Seahawks are more respectable, because that's who they are. They aren't changing who they are on every site they visit, like you. You remind me of the kids in high school, who would say different things to different people to fit in different social groups. You are essentially behaving like a teenager. SMH. If you stated how jealous and hateful you are of the Seahawks, like you show on webzone, it would be true and nobody would lose respect for you for it. Posting that you respect the Seahawks on this site and trashing the Seahawks (Seahawks players) on webzone makes you a fraud. Hating Sherman doesn't make you a fraud. Hiding that belief on this site like a p***y and posting it on webzone makes you a fraud. Frauds act like something to some people and differently to others. That's what you do. You can't stick to one story. You are constantly making up b******t and defending b******t. You are a laughable poster. SMH. Just sad, man. LOL.Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh. Sigh.



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Dude...are you unhnged or something?I posted EXACTLY what I thought of Sherman after the week 2 win. I was congratulating you guys then as well and it didn't go well.Why do that again? It completely sidetracks the conversation. All I wanted to do was congratulate you guys (something I'm really starting to regret).After all the BS you guys say on this site about Kap and Harbaugh you are getting all bent out of shape about a comment I made about Sherman ON ANOTHER SITE!?! Seriously? Do you act exactly the same way at your house as you do at someone elses house? There are several other posters who are Seahawk fans that post over on the Webzone as well and they watch what they say over there as well. Why? Its prudent. If you don't, your message gets lost in this kind of BS.For the record. I said Sherman was a good player. I just can't stand his attitude. YOU are the one who have now called me scum, the worst of the worst, and the worst person you've ever seen (seriously? Get out more).The funniest part of all of this is that you think you've "unearthed" some secret. I openly talk about the webzone, I use the same screen name, I talk to a few Hawk fans on THIS SITE about what I post over there, and I make a post about my thoughts after a game EVERY SINGLE WEEK.Dude...If I'm a fraud, I'm the worst fraud in the history of frauds. LOL.



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So now you are calling me unhinged? SMH. Won't stop with the name calling? And you ask why you are called an immoral human being, when you continue to act this way? BTW, I don't speak behind people's backs if that's what you mean. That's not how I was raised. If I have something to tell the person at their house, I'll tell them, instead of acting like a p***y and running back to my house (message board) to trash the person. That's immoral. Maybe that's how you were raised and why you lack the distinction between what to truly HATE and NOT. You are an immoral individual. You stated you HATED Sherman. How can you hate someone you don't know? You've never met? I hate evil people. People who commit atrocities. Are you so ignorant to believe that Sherman deserves hate? That's why I called you scum. Somebody who is this ignorant, either has some issues in their head or is scum. How is your message lost? Your message is to trash the Seahawks and the Seahawks' players. How is that lost? That's why you are a fraud. If you are going to trash the Seahawks, why not just trash them here, instead of acting like we can't see your posts on Webzone. Do you think you are making friends when you do that? Obviously it didn't go well, but at least you posted your REAL thoughts, instead of some pussified post, that makes you look like a fraud. We all know what you really believe. Whether you post it here or on a San Fran message board, we can all see it. Why not just post what you believe? And what is the BS about Kaep and Harbaugh? Any more BS, than your posts hating on Sherman and the Seahawks on Webzone? Just laughable, man.This is why you are a complete fraud. Like I said, I have more respect for your peers, who talk trash and post what they believe, because at least they don't hide their intentions. That's what you do. You hide your true intentions on this site and trash the Seahawks on Webzone. You are a bigger troll and fraud, than any of your 49er brethren. SMH. Sigh. I feel for you. P.S. Must be sad to live a double life. I presume that is how you live your real life, from what you have said about saying and doing different things in someone else's house, than your own.



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Dude. I'M calling names!?! Thats rich. You just called me "scum". "Worst of the worst". "Worst person you've ever seen".For the record, I wasn't badmouthing the Seahawks. I was badmouthing RICHARD SHERMAN who I do not like and have zero respect for. Quite simple. I'm entitled to that opinion. I also did so on ANOTHER SITE.When did I act like you couldn't see my posts over there? LOL. Thats the most illogical part of your entire argument. I don't say that stuff here because it doesn't move the conversation forward. It goes nowhere. Its pointless. I've done so before and the conversation degraded into something other than I had intended so i realized posting about Sherman on this board was useless.THAT makes me a fraud? Seriously? I consider it more being polite. I'm a guest here.If being polite offends you then I suggest putting me on ignore.









Excellent post Marvin and a BIG THANKS for all you input all season long!

Here's my 2 cents.

1). Kap played his heart out. He did very good. He still has a ways to go. He has a big-time work ethic and I'm sure he'll be hard at work soon. Hopefully, he works on 2-3rd read, a soft touch instead of muscle building. Like Joe Montana said, he needs to become a better pocket passer and to that end he needs a mentor/QB coach that can help him accomplish that.

2). The offense lost the game - Period! Not the D and not the ST.

The D has saved our bacon all season. Could you imagine what a Powerhouse we'd be if our offense was better. Every unit gives up a play ere and ther but the offense all season long has been the weak link.

Wasn't it the same play to Crabs that was called against the Ravens that didn't work in the last Super Bowl?

JH is WAYYYYYYYYY over-rated as an offensive mind. The plays go through him and it's not all on Roman.

3). Looks like w/the help of the Saints recommendation of the ear buds we may have found a way to reduced the power of the 12th man.

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