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2013 - NFC Championship Round: Thoughts after watching the game...

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Originally posted by Marvin49:
Just got back from Los Angeles and have had a 6 hour drive to think about the game. Haven't rewatched yet (may wait at least a few weeks).

1) Kap: OK...let me start by saying anyone who wants to replace Kap as the QB needs to stop sniffing glue. I haven't even read anything on this site yet but I KNOW you guys have probably already been out in force.

First off, Kap was the only person who did ANYTHING in the game on offense. The plays he made with his legs and arm were the only reason they were in the game at the end. Then Seahawks completely eliminated the run game. Gore could do nothing. Boldin dropped two passes. Lets also not forget that the Seahawks are the best pass D in the NFL for a REASON. Did Colin play perfectly? Of course not. Still a young player in the most hostile environment in the NFL and still was one throw away from winning his FOURTH consecutive road game and FOURTH road playoff game.

I'd like to highlight that last part in particular. No team has EVER won 4 straight games on the road. Ever. No team has won back to back Conference Championship games on the road. Anyone ready to throw the towel in on Kap need to remove their cranium from their rectum. Kap is going to be here for a long time so you had better get used to it.

Some of my favorite quotes I've seen on PFT say stuff like "Great Athlete but Niners will never win a Championship with Kaepernick". That comment makes me laugh. It shows very little understanding of 49er history. I remember another player who was tagged with the exact same line...athletic, great runner, best RB on the team, too undisciplined, they will never win a Championship with him.

His name was Steve Young.


2) Richard Sherman: Undoubtedly the biggest pr*ck in the NFL. I've been on a few sites that are actually defending him, saying Crabtree tried to "start a fight" with him, etc, etc. Ya know what? That dude isn't just an a$$hat, he's also a boldfaced liar. I don't believe a single word that comes after his mouth. I remember his "account" of how he congratulated Harbaugh after the week 2 game and how the video showed that he comp[lately made up what happened. He never game Harbaugh the chance to respond before he ran away. It pretty much puts a slant on every single thing I hear from him. Crab said earlier in the week that he didn't think Sherman was the best and that he didn't pay attention to particular players...just teams. THAT was what Dick Sherman responded to. Seriously? THAT comment is the reason you make yourself look like a moron on National TV? The sad part is that the guy is good. REALLY good. He's smart. He's dedicated to his craft. If he would shut his mouth he'd actually get the respect he claims he never gets. I might actually have rooted for the Seahawks 2 sundays from now but I can't bring myself to root for that piece of trash. What absolutely BLOWS ME AWAY is how all I read from Seahawks fans is how big a douche Harbaugh and Kaepernick are. They b***h and complain about how those two don't respect them. They see NO ISSUE with Shermans antics. Unbelievable hypocritical.

Go Broncos.


3) Bowman: Ultimate adding injury to insult. I'm bothered by the game, but I'm crushed because of that injury. I hope he can make it back, but I don't want them to rush him. I want him back as close to 100% as possible. The fact that he hung onto the ball...OMG. That's just nuts. The fact that the refs missed it...no comment.


4) Aldon: Dude is a straight pass rushing monster. Really only participated greatly in 12 games this season (missed 5 and was limted in 2 more) and still amassed 12 sacks. Even when double and triple teamed, he can't be contained forever.


5) Seattle fans: As disgusted as I am at Sherman and by the fan who threw popcorn at Bowman as he exited the field, I honestly don't think that behavior is indicative of most of that fanbase. I was on Seahawks.net last night and I was seeing a level of respect for the 49ers that I hadn't seen before and peeps upset about the popcorn incident and wishing the best for Bowman and Iupati. Just want to keep it in perspective. One idiot fan does not an entire fanbase make. If we hold them all responsible for that then we are all no better than Niner fans who stab opposing fans the Candlestick parking lot. Just sayin'.


6) Crab/Boldin/WRs: Really looking forward to getting him next year with a full offseason to recover. He has played far better than I ever could have expected, but there is no way he was 100% this year. Really hoping they can resign Boldin for a reasonable price. I think that his issue last year with Baltimore and not wanting to take a pay cut had more to do with wanting Baltimore to honor their contract than wanting the payday. We'll see because thing are going to get tight. I would expect the Niners to draft another WR and see Crab/Boldin/Patton/Draft Pick as the teams WRs next year.


7) Secondary: My guess is that both Donte Whitner, Terrell Brown, and Carlos Rogers have put on the red and gold for the last time. Rogers doesn't concern me. Cully is back. Brock will start....but they will have to select a CB fairly high and probably sign a few cheap free agents to compete. I was never a fan of Whitner...until this year. Replacing him is my biggest concern on D. I just don't see how they sign him AND keep everyone else.

The good news is that Baalke has shown an ability to go find guys who were highly ranked coming out of college and have been a "bust" with the teams that selected them and then allowing them to succeed with this coaching staff (See Whitner, Donte: Rogers, Carlos: Dorsey, Glenn). He'll need to do it again in a few positions on the team.


8) Contracts: Now stuff starts to get expensive. My guess is Kap and Aldon get redone in the offseason and Crab and Iupati play out their contracts. Given the choiceof the two, I'd say resign Crab...but I'm not sure it will be possible.


9) Championship Window: This all leads me to my biggest concern. The Niners are in danger of having their Championship window expire. Gore is not getting any younger. Neither is Justin Smith. I can't wait to see Lattimore or Carradine, but we won't know till those guys can play. The 49ers of the past were able to restock their rosters and keep that window open for an incredibly long time. We'll just have to see if Baalke can do the same now that those rookie deals are expiring. Having 6 picks in the first 3 rounds helps. Having a new stadium and a team that has been in the NFC Championship 3 years running helps attract free agents. This should be an interesting offseason.


10) Refs: The refs were bad. Niners got hosed on a few calls. Ya know what tho? I spent weeks being pissed off after the Super Bowl. I don't want to do it again. Some of the missed calls didn't make a difference anyway. Some might have made a difference, but the reality is that we'll never know and getting pissed about it won't change it. Nobody is going to remember that a drive should have been extended by a roughing the kicker call. Nobody cares and will only site some call that went against them 2 years earlier. No point to it.

OK, when's the draft? Looking forward to watching a bit of a retool this offseason.

Excellent and honest!
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Marvin I always read your write ups. I hope you're not giving this coaching staff particularly on offense a free pass.

I wouldn't call it a free pass, but I think people on this site greatly overstate the problems involving the coaching staff. People forget what we had before. This coaching staff has had us in 3 consecutive championship games and very easily could have been 3 Super Bowls.
Kaep choked, face it. It's his job to get balls to his receivers and not turn it over. Of course he was running well, because he couldn't figure out how to complete a pass. He shouldn't have to run the ball so much. I'm not saying we're going to replace him, as we know good QB's are hard to come by, but the bottom line is he going to have to get smarter between the ears to win the big one. I think he can still be a great one, he needs more time though.
Originally posted by outside4949:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Marvin I always read your write ups. I hope you're not giving this coaching staff particularly on offense a free pass.

Im rewatching the game right now and this is pretty much what I think. Jim harbaughs offensive mind is overated. he has to approve this s**t. our f**king running game is not dynamic. for the most part everyone knows where the damn ball is going. f**k!

Again. 12-4. Won 2 road wins in the playoffs, twice as many as Montana and Young combined.

Come on. Perspective.
Kaep's biggest asset can also be his Achilles heel. He can make plays with his legs (the 50+ yard run) and passing (the 3rd quarter td to boldin) that nobody else can because he takes a lot of risks out there. For instance, that TD to Boldin could just as easily have been an interception but because he made the throw on the money it worked. That same bravado that allows him to make the spectacular plays is also what can kill him. Simply put, he plays sometimes with too much confidence. Kaepernick will likely tell you he'll make that throw to Crabtree a 1000 times in 1 on 1 coverage because he believes he can make that throw. Perhaps with time he'll improve on the WHEN to make that throw.

We aren't going to win in Seattle doing the same things, it's insanity. Running our power offense against their power defense with a loaded box hasn't worked with regularity in Seattle so why keep jamming a round peg in a square hole? I won't prescribe a solution because I am unqualified to do so, but I know when I see something that is consistently failing.

My biggest concerns moving forward are re-signing the right guys and getting more from our drafts. If we're being honest the last two drafts has yielded Eric Reid and, even for a good team like the 49ers, that's pathetic.
Originally posted by T-9ers:
Kaep choked, face it. It's his job to get balls to his receivers and not turn it over. Of course he was running well, because he couldn't figure out how to complete a pass. He shouldn't have to run the ball so much. I'm not saying we're going to replace him, as we know good QB's are hard to come by, but the bottom line is he going to have to get smarter between the ears to win the big one. I think he can still be a great one, he needs more time though.

I really don't think not doing something never done in NFL history against the #1 ranked defense in the NFL and possibly one of the best secondaries ever assembled a "choke". If that throw at the end is against just about anyone BUT Richard Sherman we are probably looking at a game in NY in 2 weeks. The other guys get paid to. You make a play. Sometimes the other guy makes a better one.

That's my opinion anyway.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
Marvin I always read your write ups. I hope you're not giving this coaching staff particularly on offense a free pass.

I wouldn't call it a free pass, but I think people on this site greatly overstate the problems involving the coaching staff. People forget what we had before. This coaching staff has had us in 3 consecutive championship games and very easily could have been 3 Super Bowls.

I guess I don't even count what we had before. It should have never happened. And I guess I look at it as we should have one at least 1 of the 3 times we were in the SB. I guess I'm a if you have the talent, there's no reason why you can't be the best. Sure I'm thankful for where we are but just because we were served tard in the past does it mean we should be happy with McDonalds when we have the means and skill to have filet?
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by T-9ers:
Kaep choked, face it. It's his job to get balls to his receivers and not turn it over. Of course he was running well, because he couldn't figure out how to complete a pass. He shouldn't have to run the ball so much. I'm not saying we're going to replace him, as we know good QB's are hard to come by, but the bottom line is he going to have to get smarter between the ears to win the big one. I think he can still be a great one, he needs more time though.

I really don't think not doing something never done in NFL history against the #1 ranked defense in the NFL and possibly one of the best secondaries ever assembled a "choke". If that throw at the end is against just about anyone BUT Richard Sherman we are probably looking at a game in NY in 2 weeks. The other guys get paid to. You make a play. Sometimes the other guy makes a better one.

That's my opinion anyway.

He choked. There was a linebacker underneath and the best corner in the league on Crabtree's hip. 50 seconds on the clock with two timeouts left, he forced a low percentage completion. There were many options, he chose the wrong one, that's a choke.
I still can't get over it! It's hurt 1000 times more when your get this close to the SB and loose. 3 years in a row. Hurts, hurts, hurts :(
Originally posted by Empire49:
What I find Ironic is that when Alex Smith was the reason other players didn't do anything, it was the other players' fault for not helping Alex. Now that it's Kap, it's all Kap's fault that nobody else did anything.

Ridiculous.

Bro if you miss Alex that much, the chiefs fan base needs help
Originally posted by T-9ers:
He choked. There was a linebacker underneath and the best corner in the league on Crabtree's hip. 50 seconds on the clock with two timeouts left, he forced a low percentage completion. There were many options, he chose the wrong one, that's a choke.

Choke?

It's was a good throw, Sherman just made a better play. And there was not 50 seconds left, clock was under 30 and I honestly feel Kap felt like his had to rush it.
[ Edited by mutant-man49 on Jan 20, 2014 at 10:37 PM ]
Marvin, your calm, measured analysis of the game each week has enhanced my enjoyment and appreciation for this season. Thank you!

I loved this team, the way they overcame early adversity and improved as they went along. Their clutch wins at the end of the regular season and on the road in the playoffs were stirring and courageous. The game in Seattle could have gone either way. If you look at the stats, the teams both gained exactly the same number of yards, and what stands out is 3 turnovers to one, all of them in the last quarter. Despite everything, we could easily have won. We can go there next year and win too.

I feel very badly about Navarro. What a play he made! And the refs didn't even see it. I was proud of our team right to the end. In contrast to Richard Sherman mouthing off, we have Patrick with great dignity saying that they did their best, and had no regrets.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by T-9ers:
Kaep choked, face it. It's his job to get balls to his receivers and not turn it over. Of course he was running well, because he couldn't figure out how to complete a pass. He shouldn't have to run the ball so much. I'm not saying we're going to replace him, as we know good QB's are hard to come by, but the bottom line is he going to have to get smarter between the ears to win the big one. I think he can still be a great one, he needs more time though.

I really don't think not doing something never done in NFL history against the #1 ranked defense in the NFL and possibly one of the best secondaries ever assembled a "choke". If that throw at the end is against just about anyone BUT Richard Sherman we are probably looking at a game in NY in 2 weeks. The other guys get paid to. You make a play. Sometimes the other guy makes a better one.

That's my opinion anyway.

this.
If the Niners saw how effective Robinson was the week before against the Hawks, why didn't they use Hunter who looks pretty damn effective when they give him a chance? Gore is great but he's just to slow for this type of game.
I was at the game and there was absolutely NO SHORTAGE of idiot Seahawks fans in or around the stadium after the game.