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I'm still proud of our team......

  • LVJay
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Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Originally posted by LVJay:
Opening for the youngsters, but quickly closing OR has closed for the older guys (Jonathan Goodwin--closed, Carlos Rogers--closed, Justin Smith--closing, Donte Whitner--closing, Frank Gore--closing, etc...).

we don't use all of the players we have
still don't use hunter
and haven't used james to spell gore

and have lattimore coming in.

that's on the o.c.

and the line not blocking last game.

I won't argue with that, mostly because it's true

BUT, beware of the Roman nut-hugger(s)... there's nothing we can say that really gets through
The problem is that the window for Seattle, Rams, and Cardinals is much larger than ours currently. They have more talented younger talent. Also we are incapable of winning in Seattle, so we have to hope we don't play in Seattle during the playoffs. Also everyone gets injured when we play in Seattle.
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Originally posted by smithgdwg:
The problem is that the window for Seattle, Rams, and Cardinals is much larger than ours currently. They have more talented younger talent. Also we are incapable of winning in Seattle, so we have to hope we don't play in Seattle during the playoffs. Also everyone gets injured when we play in Seattle.

Some valid points, but still, I'm giving you thumbs down for not getting on people's nerves ( turning it up a notch ) Saving it for game day? That's quite a long way from now

BTW, I believe Cheattle will have to deal with a lot of cap issues in the near future... I don't think their window is better than ours.
[ Edited by LVJay on Jan 20, 2014 at 12:21 PM ]
Whether it's opening/closing/whatever, these past few years have ultimately been a waste of prime years for some of our best guys. Anything less than a title during these years has to be seen as a failure in at least some form.

Also, Brooks is signed for like 5 years so he'll be here.

I don't know what it is with the philosophy, but Harbaugh/Roman really held Kap back in the beginning of the year and throughout the season at times. I can't help but think that the conservatism and stubbornness are really hurting his development in some way.

Still, I think we'll be in the discussion for a while, hopefully through this decade at least.
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Originally posted by AutographDynasty:
Whether it's opening/closing/whatever, these past few years have ultimately been a waste of prime years for some of our best guys. Anything less than a title during these years has to be seen as a failure in at least some form.

Also, Brooks is signed for like 5 years so he'll be here.

I don't know what it is with the philosophy, but Harbaugh/Roman really held Kap back in the beginning of the year and throughout the season at times. I can't help but think that the conservatism and stubbornness are really hurting his development in some way.

Still, I think we'll be in the discussion for a while, hopefully through this decade at least.

^^THIS^^
Originally posted by smithgdwg:
The problem is that the window for Seattle, Rams, and Cardinals is much larger than ours currently. They have more talented younger talent. Also we are incapable of winning in Seattle, so we have to hope we don't play in Seattle during the playoffs. Also everyone gets injured when we play in Seattle.

The Rams need a QB to really compete in the NFC West and in AZ Carson Palmer is like 100 years old so they will need one soon too.

And we can win in Seattle. Watching that game yesterday should tell you that. There are a bevy of plays to pick from that if just one went differently the 49ers would have won. They can win in Seattle.
after last year. i wasn't excited about anything. i appreciate the steps we made and how far we got but we're past that
we need to win it all.
we were supposed to take a step forward not backwards.
nfccg year 1
sb loss year 2
sb win year 3.
and during the season and playoffs next year my mind will be on one thing.
it's a lifetime away though and i know our roster is still the best in the nfl
and kap will be back and better and actually have an off season with crabtree for the 1st time.

but it still stinks because the season is still going on and we're not participating
Guys, the future remains pretty bright. Yes, Gore and J. Smith are another year older. But with Carradine and Lattimore healthy, I think we have depth at those positions right now, before adding a single draft pick or free agent.

Losing Whitner, Rogers, and Goodwin is not the end of the world. We get Culliver back next year and there are good options at center - assuming Goodwin doesn't take a soft deal.

Our QB has a bright future and although he has flaws, he's young enough and talented enough to bounce back. How many other QBs in this league have started in two NFC championship games in their first two years as a starter?

We will keep getting younger and better.
Sadly this is the truth

When Peyton went to Denver, our shot of being a Dynasty closed
Now I'm starting to doubt we will win multiple titles

For the 2nd straight year, we lost to an inferior opponent because of our own personal mistakes

If Kaepernick doesn't significantly improve, the offense will decline along with our aging defense. There is simply no way we will have the cap flexibility to hold on to this talent. Look at what has happened to New England. Furthermore it is apparent we do not have the coaching of Patriots to off set such a talent decline.

We will be back and will remain for the near future (5+ years) a competitor in the NFC. But assuming we can replace guys like Gore, Justin Smith & Offensive Line is naive. It's going to be difficult to win a championship with an above average Quarterback while the roster around him declines.
[ Edited by Touchdownboy on Jan 20, 2014 at 1:34 PM ]
Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Its amazing that people think a window has to close in 3 years. Did they miss the run the patriots, colts, etc. went on? Draft well, some key free agents, sign the right folks have great leadership and coaches and it keeps going.

Amazing it keeps coming up from a fan base who watched 16 straight years of winning 10 games or more.

Niners will be fine.

Go niners!

I think its because of fear of the unknown, but im with you, we are just getting started.
Seattle's window is going to slam shut very quickly, after they have to pay Wilson and their defense goes their separate ways. Maybe they can continue to find gems in later rounds, but their 2013 draft was somehow even worse than our 2012 draft. They have a killer 2014 free agency, and an absolutely devastating 2015 offseason ahead of them. Wilson is going to be Flacco 2.0 pretty soon.
Originally posted by Touchdownboy:
Sadly this is the truth

When Peyton went to Denver, our shot of being a Dynasty closed
Now I'm starting to doubt we will win multiple titles

For the 2nd straight year, we lost to an inferior opponent because of our own personal mistakes

If Kaepernick doesn't significantly improve, the offense will decline along with our aging defense. There is simply no way we will have the cap flexibility to hold on to this talent. Look at what has happened to New England. Furthermore it is apparent we do not have the coaching of Patriots to off set such a talent decline.

We will be back and will remain for the near future (5+ years) a competitor in the NFC. But assuming we can replace guys like Gore, Justin Smith & Offensive Line is naive. It's going to be difficult to win a championship with an above average Quarterback while the roster around him declines.

I beg to differ. I think sometimes we put on blinders on and overvalue our players. Even more so with guys like Gore and Cowboy. I love them just as much as the next man but I would be a lie if I said I never thought of how much more explosive we would be with a guy like Shady McCoy at running back rather than Gore. And with Tomsula as a dline coach I think we will always get the consistent play from the dline, we should need to strengthen our rotation. We have all the key elements we need to stay at the top of the NFC for a while, we just need to develop Kap as a passer and add a few new deminsions to offense and special teams. We have all the draft picks, and talent coming back from injury to do so.
go faithfuls!
Originally posted by facestabber:
It's opened as long as we draft right and resign the right players for the right money. We have a solid core and can mix it with the best teams. It's a shame we have blown 3 golden opportunities to bring home the hardware. Staying hungry after 3 dissapointing 'almost' title runs will be our biggest hurdle. One SB would have satisfied me for a decade.

i think with balke/harbs they have been doing pretty darn good...this is a big deal off season but remeber we do have lattimore and carridine waiting to play
Originally posted by ninerfan4life:
With next year's weak schedule I can easily see us going 13-3 maybe 14-2

would love to get the #1 seed
Originally posted by midrdan:
Guys, the future remains pretty bright. Yes, Gore and J. Smith are another year older. But with Carradine and Lattimore healthy, I think we have depth at those positions right now, before adding a single draft pick or free agent.

Losing Whitner, Rogers, and Goodwin is not the end of the world. We get Culliver back next year and there are good options at center - assuming Goodwin doesn't take a soft deal.

Our QB has a bright future and although he has flaws, he's young enough and talented enough to bounce back. How many other QBs in this league have started in two NFC championship games in their first two years as a starter?

We will keep getting younger and better.

all of kaeps problems can be fixed. he has a very good work ethic and is highly motivated and committed. (they say u cant teach accuracy but i think its good enough)
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