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Be the Expert: How do we overcome these challenges vs. Seattle?

every one of the things you listed can be solved with our vaunted jumbo package.
Originally posted by TheG0RE49er:
we need to run some screens (which we never do for some reason). play action roll outs, and Kaep has to buy some time for our WRs to get open.

take advantage of the defense being extra aggressive. we can draw some penalties or catch them off guard with some deep passes early on.

hopefully, we can actually make something happen on special teams. we need a a big return or two, even if it doesn't result in a TD.

I thought about the screen thing and then I also read an article and realized that the reason we don't run screens is because Kap is just bad at it. He lacks "touch" and should really work on that in the offseason. He's great with those deep passes and mid routes but he never checks down and hits the RB. Ive noticed that a lot. Even in the Carolina game, if he cant find a receiver while hes scrambling, he'll just run outta bounds and lose yards instead of being aware of where his check down is. Wilson and Aaron Rogers and even Alex Smith are great at being aware of where their checkdown receiver is and that leads to a lot of conversions. Screens, short quick throws, and power runs are the perfect ways to slow down a pass rush.
Everyone talks so much about Sherman in the secondary that they forget about Earl Thomas being back there. He's possibly the best safety in the league and he flies to ball like no other so we also have to get some bodies on him, catch him off guard.
Originally posted by xela510:
What we need to do is what the Saints tried to do and what Arizona did. We need to stay consistent and run the ball and try to win the TOP and Field position battle. Arizona ran the ball 1st and 2nd down no matter what. They had 38 carries for 142 yards. That seems like a lot but they were only averaging 3.7 yards on the ground. A lot of the time it seemed like they were getting nothing at all. This kept their D fresh and locked down the Seahawks offense all game. They won doing this DESPITE the fact that Palmer threw 4 INT's that game. We need to run the ball at least 30 times this game. In our Week 2 matchup our defense locked down their offense until the 4th quarter when it was out of gas. Gore only had 9 carries in the game and I wouldnt doubt that almost all of the 9 came in the first half. If our D plays as great as it is and we can keep running the ball keeping the TOP and keep Kaep mistake free, we can win this game easily. Our Run game is superior to Arizona's and the Saints yet they had success running on them. The Saints gave Seattle almost all their points on stupid mistakes. We cannot afford to play scared and make those mistakes.


I agree 100%, Seatle's offense is vulnerable. Their D is superb, especially the pass D. Wear them down running the ball. Force them to stop the run and Kaep will find his moments, someone will come open or Gore will break one when they over pursue.
[ Edited by VA49er on Jan 16, 2014 at 2:56 AM ]
HaRoman has to get this running game going. Avoid 3rd & longs. Unleash Kap's read-option via Pistol formation.
When you play the Seattle CHEATHAWKS you just have to understand what you are playing. You are playing guys with Roids, Adderal, peds and a cheating hold, grab, turn, tackle all the way down the field strategy too. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. And they won't because it would slow down the game too much. It would be on every single play.

Knowing this you have to cheat as badly as they do. Our WR's Boldin (225 lbs.) and Crabtree (215 lbs.) have to push, shove, use your arm to get separation just as much as they hold. Dare the ref to throw the flag. They can't do it every play. Same reason. It will slow down the game too much. Sherman is listed at 195 lbs. So there is no reason for our WR's to get dominated if they push back.

So push back. Early and often and all game long....
1: mix in some creative run plays to complement the power run.
2: win special teams
3: simply pre snap routine
4: be patient with the game plan on offense
5: keep it a tight game going into 4 quarter and not self destruct.
Originally posted by martysofresh:
I thought about the screen thing and then I also read an article and realized that the reason we don't run screens is because Kap is just bad at it. He lacks "touch" and should really work on that in the offseason. He's great with those deep passes and mid routes but he never checks down and hits the RB. Ive noticed that a lot. Even in the Carolina game, if he cant find a receiver while hes scrambling, he'll just run outta bounds and lose yards instead of being aware of where his check down is. Wilson and Aaron Rogers and even Alex Smith are great at being aware of where their checkdown receiver is and that leads to a lot of conversions. Screens, short quick throws, and power runs are the perfect ways to slow down a pass rush.
Everyone talks so much about Sherman in the secondary that they forget about Earl Thomas being back there. He's possibly the best safety in the league and he flies to ball like no other so we also have to get some bodies on him, catch him off guard.
Never checks down? Maybe you should stop reading articles and start watching the games. You bring up the panthers game and somehow fail to remember that the biggest NINER injury that day happened on a check down (tukuafu). I don't even remember the last time Kap scrambled for a loss but somehow you noticed this a lot in the panthers game??? What are you on about? Kap has been hitting check downs with more regularity. Not sure how you're not seeing it.
Will need Patton to make a catch or two and will need a big LaMichael James return
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you play the Seattle CHEATHAWKS you just have to understand what you are playing. You are playing guys with Roids, Adderal, peds and a cheating hold, grab, turn, tackle all the way down the field strategy too. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. And they won't because it would slow down the game too much. It would be on every single play.

Knowing this you have to cheat as badly as they do. Our WR's Boldin (225 lbs.) and Crabtree (215 lbs.) have to push, shove, use your arm to get separation just as much as they hold. Dare the ref to throw the flag. They can't do it every play. Same reason. It will slow down the game too much. Sherman is listed at 195 lbs. So there is no reason for our WR's to get dominated if they push back.

So push back. Early and often and all game long....

Trying to be physical at the line is what they want...and their game plan to disrupt the timing.

Pushing back will do nothing..we need a great start off the line and get past them to expose the holding and give the refs a view of what they are doing. It worked the last time we played them
This doesn't sound like the thread was started by a 49ers fan... Anyone who's watched the team over the year knows he's just repeating what the media pundits say about us. Sounds like a rogue Seahawks fan to me
Anyone else watch Roddy White explain how to beat their dB's on NFL network? Basically like we all say, setting up the run is important. Also have the qb look off the hot route to get earl out of position and leave gaps. Hope harbaugh and Kap prepare for their aggressive defense.
Originally posted by joseglopez00:
This doesn't sound like the thread was started by a 49ers fan... Anyone who's watched the team over the year knows he's just repeating what the media pundits say about us. Sounds like a rogue Seahawks fan to me

But to be fair, just in case:

1) Lock-down secondary-- You counter this with the run. They've been vulnerable to the run lately, look for us to power our way and then break a few to the outside to keep them honest

2) Kaepernick's inability to go through progressions-- I'm sick of hearing this. Don't listen to the media. If you watch carefully on replays, Kap's eyes go from one to two to sometimes even three. His problem isn't the progressions, the problem is that he doesn't trust what he sees. That'll get better over time.

3) The inability to audible-- You answered the question in your question: hand signals. It worked for us all year and it has worked for every other team.

4) Snap count-- This is what makes their home-field advantage so tough. This is probably the only legitimate concern in my opinion. But we haven't done too bad the past few times with this. Our issues have been multiple, but snap count generally hasn't been one of them. (Getting the play off in time? That's a different story)

5) Lack of fullback-- Dixon is enough. And Tuk is back at practice anyway. We don't need a DL to block to be effective. Seattle's LBs aren't huge anyway, they're average size but just flat out fast.
[ Edited by joseglopez00 on Jan 16, 2014 at 6:49 AM ]
Kaepernick running might be a big key if they stack the box but cover well. He showed great patience against the Carolina D and I think he will this week as well. I would like to see some three WR sets to put pressure on the DBs. Patton is very quick and may earn some holding calls if the game is called on the up and up. If they let the DBs manhandle the receivers then Boldin and Crabtree are better bets.

As someone mentioned...CK's touch is his only weakness so it would be great if he could complete a few Seattle doesn't expect. He has the ability...just needs to calm down and make them.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you play the Seattle CHEATHAWKS you just have to understand what you are playing. You are playing guys with Roids, Adderal, peds and a cheating hold, grab, turn, tackle all the way down the field strategy too. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. And they won't because it would slow down the game too much. It would be on every single play.

Knowing this you have to cheat as badly as they do. Our WR's Boldin (225 lbs.) and Crabtree (215 lbs.) have to push, shove, use your arm to get separation just as much as they hold. Dare the ref to throw the flag. They can't do it every play. Same reason. It will slow down the game too much. Sherman is listed at 195 lbs. So there is no reason for our WR's to get dominated if they push back.

So push back. Early and often and all game long....

Trying to be physical at the line is what they want...and their game plan to disrupt the timing.

Pushing back will do nothing..we need a great start off the line and get past them to expose the holding and give the refs a view of what they are doing. It worked the last time we played them

Last time we played them we were at home where you tend to get more calls. Nobody gets more calls or lack there of at home than the CHEATHAWKS. What the 49ers and their fans have to realize is the CHEATHAWKS plan is to CHEAT. They have no intention or plan of playing by the rules. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. You have to know what you are going against. You have to even out that playing field. To do so you push the limits too and dare the refs to throw the flag. They can't and won't on every play. When you are playing against a team whose intention is to CHEAT you are not playing on a level even playing field. You can't play by the rules if they don't. That leaves you at a huge disadvantage.