There are 219 users in the forums

Remember
Not a member? Register Now!

Be the Expert: How do we overcome these challenges vs. Seattle?

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you play the Seattle CHEATHAWKS you just have to understand what you are playing. You are playing guys with Roids, Adderal, peds and a cheating hold, grab, turn, tackle all the way down the field strategy too. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. And they won't because it would slow down the game too much. It would be on every single play.

Knowing this you have to cheat as badly as they do. Our WR's Boldin (225 lbs.) and Crabtree (215 lbs.) have to push, shove, use your arm to get separation just as much as they hold. Dare the ref to throw the flag. They can't do it every play. Same reason. It will slow down the game too much. Sherman is listed at 195 lbs. So there is no reason for our WR's to get dominated if they push back.

So push back. Early and often and all game long....

Trying to be physical at the line is what they want...and their game plan to disrupt the timing.

Pushing back will do nothing..we need a great start off the line and get past them to expose the holding and give the refs a view of what they are doing. It worked the last time we played them

Last time we played them we were at home where you tend to get more calls. Nobody gets more calls or lack there of at home than the CHEATHAWKS. What the 49ers and their fans have to realize is the CHEATHAWKS plan is to CHEAT. They have no intention or plan of playing by the rules. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. You have to know what you are going against. You have to even out that playing field. To do so you push the limits too and dare the refs to throw the flag. They can't and won't on every play. When you are playing against a team whose intention is to CHEAT you are not playing on a level even playing field. You can't play by the rules if they don't. That leaves you at a huge disadvantage.
oh so your willing to play into their game plan and on top of that try to get a call against us ?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you play the Seattle CHEATHAWKS you just have to understand what you are playing. You are playing guys with Roids, Adderal, peds and a cheating hold, grab, turn, tackle all the way down the field strategy too. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. And they won't because it would slow down the game too much. It would be on every single play.

Knowing this you have to cheat as badly as they do. Our WR's Boldin (225 lbs.) and Crabtree (215 lbs.) have to push, shove, use your arm to get separation just as much as they hold. Dare the ref to throw the flag. They can't do it every play. Same reason. It will slow down the game too much. Sherman is listed at 195 lbs. So there is no reason for our WR's to get dominated if they push back.

So push back. Early and often and all game long....

Trying to be physical at the line is what they want...and their game plan to disrupt the timing.

Pushing back will do nothing..we need a great start off the line and get past them to expose the holding and give the refs a view of what they are doing. It worked the last time we played them

Last time we played them we were at home where you tend to get more calls. Nobody gets more calls or lack there of at home than the CHEATHAWKS. What the 49ers and their fans have to realize is the CHEATHAWKS plan is to CHEAT. They have no intention or plan of playing by the rules. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. You have to know what you are going against. You have to even out that playing field. To do so you push the limits too and dare the refs to throw the flag. They can't and won't on every play. When you are playing against a team whose intention is to CHEAT you are not playing on a level even playing field. You can't play by the rules if they don't. That leaves you at a huge disadvantage.
oh so your willing to play into their game plan and on top of that try to get a call against us ?

The refs can't call it every play. They don't for the CHEATHAWKS and they won't for us. If we push back we even it out. If the refs call it tight you can stop doing it which means they will have to stop too. Which means we win. Because if they don't cheat in the secondary we are better.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you play the Seattle CHEATHAWKS you just have to understand what you are playing. You are playing guys with Roids, Adderal, peds and a cheating hold, grab, turn, tackle all the way down the field strategy too. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. And they won't because it would slow down the game too much. It would be on every single play.

Knowing this you have to cheat as badly as they do. Our WR's Boldin (225 lbs.) and Crabtree (215 lbs.) have to push, shove, use your arm to get separation just as much as they hold. Dare the ref to throw the flag. They can't do it every play. Same reason. It will slow down the game too much. Sherman is listed at 195 lbs. So there is no reason for our WR's to get dominated if they push back.

So push back. Early and often and all game long....

Trying to be physical at the line is what they want...and their game plan to disrupt the timing.

Pushing back will do nothing..we need a great start off the line and get past them to expose the holding and give the refs a view of what they are doing. It worked the last time we played them

Last time we played them we were at home where you tend to get more calls. Nobody gets more calls or lack there of at home than the CHEATHAWKS. What the 49ers and their fans have to realize is the CHEATHAWKS plan is to CHEAT. They have no intention or plan of playing by the rules. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. You have to know what you are going against. You have to even out that playing field. To do so you push the limits too and dare the refs to throw the flag. They can't and won't on every play. When you are playing against a team whose intention is to CHEAT you are not playing on a level even playing field. You can't play by the rules if they don't. That leaves you at a huge disadvantage.
oh so your willing to play into their game plan and on top of that try to get a call against us ?

The refs can't call it every play. They don't for the CHEATHAWKS and they won't for us. If we push back we even it out. If the refs call it tight you can stop doing it which means they will have to stop too. Which means we win. Because if they don't cheat in the secondary we are better.
They called it on us in the first meeting.

Your logic is what did the panthers in

There is a better way and it's not fighting fire with fire

It's tough to play in Seattle, but sometimes the effect it has on the game is taken to hyperbolic levels. The Titans were a 7-9 and nearly won there. The Bucs won only 4 games this year and took the game to overtime. The Cardinals won up there in week 16. All of those teams held their own up there.

I'm not saying home field doesn't matter -- it does, and Seattle probably has the best home field advantage in the game. But people sometimes exaggerate the effect it has. Ultimately, it's still football.

Let's do this.
Be great. Score touchdowns. Dominate defensively. go home and **** the prom queen.
Originally posted by KeenaTurner:
1) Lock-down secondary. Seattle has the best secondary that the NFL has seen in a long, long time. They lock down receivers, even good receivers, with man to man, press coverage, which allows them to commit more players to the line of scrimmage. How do you see our receivers getting open? Which leads us to the biggest concern...

2) Kaepernick's inability to go through progressions. When your prime receiver(s) is locked up, the QB has to move through his progressions to other options. This has been an achilles heel of Kaepernick, who seems to panic when his first option is covered. I've been hoping they would establish some easy check-downs to backs, but that's not happening much. How do you think Kap will responds when he looks out and sees his first/second options covered?

3) The inability to audible. The crowd noise will likely prevent audibles from the line of scrimmage. Hand signals are tough to count on. The Seahawks seem to play off the noise by shifting though different defensive sets before the snap. How do you think the 49ers handle this?

4) Snap count. Related to the above. When you can't hear the QB's snap call, you have to be looking over at the center/QB. My lineman friends tell me that's a disadvantage because it shaves time off your release, when you are looking sideways. The only thing I've heard to counter it is timed snaps, but those are iffy.

5) Lack of fullback. Let's assume Tukuafu is out...I assume Dixon will have the starting fullback role. At 230, he's not the 293 pound load of Tuke…Do you think he will be enough?

Thanks for your insights, and GO NINERS.

1.) Spread the field! Time to implement 4WR and 1RB throughout the game, force Seattle to man up one on one in the open field while at the same time taking away E. Thomas ability to roam and possible opening up running lanes. This would also require us to activate Jon Baldwin for this game(ability to get off the jam). Almost like a Green Bay style to the game

2.) No response needed

3.) As someone previously stated use hand signals, they seem to have been working in the last few games we have been playing.

4.) Silent count

5.) See #1, no fullback needed

6.) Easy Button (THAT WAS EASY)
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
They called it on us in the first meeting.

Your logic is what did the panthers in

There is a better way and it's not fighting fire with fire


This post is full of win. Bruce's grave is in Seattle. The 49ers must channel his spirit.
Originally posted by thl408:
This post is full of win. Bruce's grave is in Seattle. The 49ers must channel his spirit.

Buried in Seattle, Born in SF
Originally posted by GORO:
A) Stop Lynch from rushing for 100 plus yards. DE must stay in lanes to keep Wilson from scrambling.
B) Do not turn ball over.
C) OL need to get to second level and block LBs, DBs so Gore can be a factor.
D) Kaepernick needs to convert thrid downs.

Huge keys, definitely agree with these, I would also add guard their WRs all the way through the plays, not giving Wilson that opportunity to extend the plays. Take Wilson's ability to pass, stress part A from above, and have the LBs patrolling against the run, this will give them fits.
Crush your enemies...see them driven before you...hear the lamentation of their women.
Originally posted by Dsoto87:
Never checks down? Maybe you should stop reading articles and start watching the games. You bring up the panthers game and somehow fail to remember that the biggest NINER injury that day happened on a check down (tukuafu). I don't even remember the last time Kap scrambled for a loss but somehow you noticed this a lot in the panthers game??? What are you on about? Kap has been hitting check downs with more regularity. Not sure how you're not seeing it.

-_-...I watch the games but an article I read just reinforced my thoughts on why we don't do too many screens. Im referring to his receivers out of the backfield when I say check down, hence why I said running backs. he checks to his FB, not his runningbacks, that's why bruce miller was the third leading receiver. And yes, when he gets beat to the edge, he runs outta bounds, I understand that its to avoid contact. He did it in Carolina, Green Bay, and in week 2 in Seattle instead of throwing the ball way, and lost like 2yds. I didn't say he does it a lot, but he does do it 2 or 3 times in one game. He's been doing that since last year. But the point was more about lacking touch, not about hitting checkdowns. That pick he threw against GB was a result of lack of touch.
No 5/ or 7 step dropbacks. Cut back on all the formations and shifting and just ram the ball down their throats.
I know we are the more experienced veteran team but going up against a division rival in this type of stage the players need to keep their emotions in control. I know they were able to do it last Sunday against the Panthers with them trying their best to get the Niners to bite and it didn't work. We all know that Seahawk players will try to do the same thing as well in trying to force the refs to throw unsportsmanlike conduct/personal foul flags on the Niners after this whistle has been blown. I really hate Breno Giacomini on the Seahawks O-line he always tries to bait Aldon into extra crap after a play has been called dead and Aldon has gotten a flag thrown at him before because of that. Limit our penalty flags and play turnover free football and I like our chances!
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
They called it on us in the first meeting.

Your logic is what did the panthers in

There is a better way and it's not fighting fire with fire


You put PED's into a seahawk, it becomes the seahawk.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
When you play the Seattle CHEATHAWKS you just have to understand what you are playing. You are playing guys with Roids, Adderal, peds and a cheating hold, grab, turn, tackle all the way down the field strategy too. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. And they won't because it would slow down the game too much. It would be on every single play.

Knowing this you have to cheat as badly as they do. Our WR's Boldin (225 lbs.) and Crabtree (215 lbs.) have to push, shove, use your arm to get separation just as much as they hold. Dare the ref to throw the flag. They can't do it every play. Same reason. It will slow down the game too much. Sherman is listed at 195 lbs. So there is no reason for our WR's to get dominated if they push back.

So push back. Early and often and all game long....

Trying to be physical at the line is what they want...and their game plan to disrupt the timing.

Pushing back will do nothing..we need a great start off the line and get past them to expose the holding and give the refs a view of what they are doing. It worked the last time we played them

Last time we played them we were at home where you tend to get more calls. Nobody gets more calls or lack there of at home than the CHEATHAWKS. What the 49ers and their fans have to realize is the CHEATHAWKS plan is to CHEAT. They have no intention or plan of playing by the rules. They don't care about the rules. They dare the refs to throw the flag. You have to know what you are going against. You have to even out that playing field. To do so you push the limits too and dare the refs to throw the flag. They can't and won't on every play. When you are playing against a team whose intention is to CHEAT you are not playing on a level even playing field. You can't play by the rules if they don't. That leaves you at a huge disadvantage.
oh so your willing to play into their game plan and on top of that try to get a call against us ?

The refs can't call it every play. They don't for the CHEATHAWKS and they won't for us. If we push back we even it out. If the refs call it tight you can stop doing it which means they will have to stop too. Which means we win. Because if they don't cheat in the secondary we are better.

we got here by playing sound defense and you want to start relying on holding calls and forget how to defend with actual skill the game before the superbowl? i think we stick to what got us here and we will win. were the hot team, were healthy, were vastly upgraded from the last time they saw us up in seattle and that game was a mirage. it wasnt the run away that the final score indicates