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Another week w/o Carlos = another 49er win!!

Not really worried. Didn't need him against a MUCH better receiving corps. Not sure why we are so concerned about Smith, LaFell, Ginn and Dixon. Only Smith would see significant playing time in Green Bay. Get a little pressure on Cam and it really wont matter at all.
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
just look at what happened to him against the falcons. dude got burnt for like 200 yards.

That was Brown and Brock not Rogers
So glad he's out. 100% love the Wright-Cox over him ( Giggiddy ) .

Not only is he weak in coverage, but how many times do we have to see that little sh!t go for a kill shot only to have the guy with the ball run right through it??? WRAP UP!!!!

Carlos had one good year and we paid him way too much for it. He went from all pro level in 2011, to bad in 2012, to absolutely atrocious this year. Looking strictly at numbers according to Pro Football Focus, Rogers is ranked 148 out of 199 corners with a negative 3 grade for the season. Quarterbacks have thrown at Rogers' receiver 93 times and completed 57 of those passes for 684 yards, at a rate of nearly 12 yards per completion. Rogers saving grace last year was his tackling, but this year 300 of the 684 yards have been after the catch. Not only is Rogers not keeping the ball out of his receivers hands but when they do make the catch he is letting them run wild. If these numbers weren't bad enough, over the past 4 games he has actually been worse, quarterbacks have completed over 70% of their passes in Rogers direction with a passer rating of 117.8.

On top of that, he's our 2nd highest cap hit at 7.3M and would be #1 at 8.1M next year. I cant wait to cut his @ss and for Dan Snyder to give him 4@60 next year.
Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:
So glad he's out. 100% love the Wright-Cox over him ( Giggiddy ) .

Not only is he weak in coverage, but how many times do we have to see that little sh!t go for a kill shot only to have the guy with the ball run right through it??? WRAP UP!!!!

Carlos had one good year and we paid him way too much for it. He went from all pro level in 2011, to bad in 2012, to absolutely atrocious this year. Looking strictly at numbers according to Pro Football Focus, Rogers is ranked 148 out of 199 corners with a negative 3 grade for the season. Quarterbacks have thrown at Rogers' receiver 93 times and completed 57 of those passes for 684 yards, at a rate of nearly 12 yards per completion. Rogers saving grace last year was his tackling, but this year 300 of the 684 yards have been after the catch. Not only is Rogers not keeping the ball out of his receivers hands but when they do make the catch he is letting them run wild. If these numbers weren't bad enough, over the past 4 games he has actually been worse, quarterbacks have completed over 70% of their passes in Rogers direction with a passer rating of 117.8.

On top of that, he's our 2nd highest cap hit at 7.3M and would be #1 at 8.1M next year. I cant wait to cut his @ss and for Dan Snyder to give him 4@60 next year.

Now that would be funny.
I complain about Rogers too but I think we need his experience out there.
I have confidence in all of our corners. They are all good players. We won't even notice that Carlos isn't there.

BTW, Carlos is a good player and fans are a little too hard on him. He's not a shutdown corner, but he is solid, and he covers the opposing teams #1 WR and the slot on 3rd downs all game long. Of course he's going to give up a few catches....he's almost always covering the primary option. The fact is he hasn't been beaten deep many times this year and gave up very few TDs.
Another week w/ Crabtree = another 49er win!!
Imagine if we had prime TO for this game?
tough to be a db in this league, hopefully we get a shutdwn corner one day, its kind of the only thing we aint got
Stop hating. The dude still gets it done, but we'll be fine without him.
his tackling has been terrible this year he has given up many first downs and even touchdowns because he has not wanted to mix it up. all arm tackles.
Rogers suck
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:
So glad he's out. 100% love the Wright-Cox over him ( Giggiddy ) .

Not only is he weak in coverage, but how many times do we have to see that little sh!t go for a kill shot only to have the guy with the ball run right through it??? WRAP UP!!!!

Carlos had one good year and we paid him way too much for it. He went from all pro level in 2011, to bad in 2012, to absolutely atrocious this year. Looking strictly at numbers according to Pro Football Focus, Rogers is ranked 148 out of 199 corners with a negative 3 grade for the season. Quarterbacks have thrown at Rogers' receiver 93 times and completed 57 of those passes for 684 yards, at a rate of nearly 12 yards per completion. Rogers saving grace last year was his tackling, but this year 300 of the 684 yards have been after the catch. Not only is Rogers not keeping the ball out of his receivers hands but when they do make the catch he is letting them run wild. If these numbers weren't bad enough, over the past 4 games he has actually been worse, quarterbacks have completed over 70% of their passes in Rogers direction with a passer rating of 117.8.

On top of that, he's our 2nd highest cap hit at 7.3M and would be #1 at 8.1M next year. I cant wait to cut his @ss and for Dan Snyder to give him 4@60 next year.

Now that would be funny.

"But he's solid"
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
Originally posted by tohara3:
Originally posted by DRUSTOPO:
So glad he's out. 100% love the Wright-Cox over him ( Giggiddy ) .

Not only is he weak in coverage, but how many times do we have to see that little sh!t go for a kill shot only to have the guy with the ball run right through it??? WRAP UP!!!!

Carlos had one good year and we paid him way too much for it. He went from all pro level in 2011, to bad in 2012, to absolutely atrocious this year. Looking strictly at numbers according to Pro Football Focus, Rogers is ranked 148 out of 199 corners with a negative 3 grade for the season. Quarterbacks have thrown at Rogers' receiver 93 times and completed 57 of those passes for 684 yards, at a rate of nearly 12 yards per completion. Rogers saving grace last year was his tackling, but this year 300 of the 684 yards have been after the catch. Not only is Rogers not keeping the ball out of his receivers hands but when they do make the catch he is letting them run wild. If these numbers weren't bad enough, over the past 4 games he has actually been worse, quarterbacks have completed over 70% of their passes in Rogers direction with a passer rating of 117.8.

On top of that, he's our 2nd highest cap hit at 7.3M and would be #1 at 8.1M next year. I cant wait to cut his @ss and for Dan Snyder to give him 4@60 next year.

Now that would be funny.

"But he's solid"

The problem with that stat is you are grouping him with ALL corners, including the ones who only logged a handful of snaps. Many of those players had a higher grade simply because they were not on the field enough to make any kind of impact. I'm not going to compare a positive-graded player who only played 200 snaps to Carlos who played over 1000 snaps. That's flawed. Many of those players can only handle being on the field in specific situations and do well in that role. If they were on the field every down, they'd be burnt toast.

Carlos played more than 75% of the snaps, so you need to compare him with other players who played a similar amount. He is ranked 30th out of 40 in that instance. Not great, but not awful when you consider there are 64 starting corners in the league. If Carlos is ranked 30th, middle of the pack, I'll take that. If you go by QB rating when throwing in his direction, Carlos is ranked 12th out of 40 among players who were on the field at least 75% of the time.
[ Edited by SofaKing on Jan 10, 2014 at 7:58 PM ]