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Panther fans on Kaepernick
Jan 10, 2014 at 10:25 AM
- NCommand
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I think the only big difference is that Cam & Kaep work under two very different offensive systems and Cam's grown a little more this year (as expected), IMHO.
Jan 10, 2014 at 10:28 AM
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Originally posted by slip:
Kap won't be stopped. But I suggest Kap takes a map to get to the ground on Sunday, cause does anybody in the States know where Carolina is? Lol
I do! It's my home state and also the site of where our Niners will play and advance to the NFC Championship.
We're known for two things: 1) First in Flight (the Wright brothers are from here) and 2) We serve as a one-day host for the Niners' Quest for Six!!!!!!
Jan 10, 2014 at 10:29 AM
- RabidNiner
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Originally posted by sevenup3000:
Originally posted by Niners99:
Cam has NO big game experience since entering the pros. His last game of this kind of magnitude was the BCS championship game over 3 years ago.
Kap is playing in his 5th career postseason game already.
One thing to note..The Panthers are 0-3 after a bye under Ron Rivera. Some teams dont do well with extra time.
A week off before a playoff game for a young team with no big game experience could be in our favor.
I think folks really need to cool it with this big game experience nonsense. Newton has played in plenty of big games this year...on the national stage, with playoff berths on the line, and as you said in the national championship game in College.
Sunday is not going to be any bigger than the Iron Bowl or the National Championship.
I feel once you have played in the number of types of games as both Newton and Kap has played in, this Sunday's game is not going to me viewed as too big for either.
I don't think "big game" experience is going to prevent Cam from playing well, and will make Kap play well. It is going to come down to who came better prepared.
Well, that's just like your opinion...man.
Cam has not played in big games this year. He's played in regular season games and has shown, time and time again that, he has the emotional fortitude of a 12 year old.
Jan 10, 2014 at 10:30 AM
- Empire49
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Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:Originally posted by BrianGO:Kap and Cam are perfect microcosms of our respective teams.
Kap has a lot better arm then Cam.
Kap is a lot faster.
Kap is a lot smarter.
Kap has a lot more big game experience.
Our linebackers are a lot better.
Our O-line is a little bit better.
Our DB's are a little bit better.
Our WR's are two times better.
Our TE's are way better.
We are mirror images, but we are a lot better.
Fixed that for you buddy. WOOOOOOOO!!
Yet we did not win when we faced them.....
Stop drooling over their win in the regular season. We're a way better team now than when we played them in week 10.
This.
We are a healthy team and the offense is ridiculously better than it was when we played them in the regular season. Without Crabtree, this offense was weak. I know people refuse to accept one guy being so important, but Crabtree is whether people want to believe it or not.
All of our pieces are back in place. The playoffs are not the regular season. Experience matters here, and the Panthers have none.
Jan 10, 2014 at 10:39 AM
- Empire49
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Originally posted by Canadian9erfan:Kap is faster
Cam is stronger and harder to bring down
Arm strength is pretty much even. they can both launch the ball or throw with velocity.
Smarts is up in the air at this point. Kap does not progress through multiple reads, and also has trouble managing play clock etc. Cam also struggles going through progressions. Both QBs like to take off running.
Kap has more big game experience.
How do you figure Cam is stronger and harder to bring down? Proof?
As for the arm strength being equal, no. Nobody throws with the velocity of Kap. That is no exaggeration.
Jan 10, 2014 at 10:42 AM
- Empire49
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Originally posted by 49Hounds:Originally posted by slip:Kap won't be stopped. But I suggest Kap takes a map to get to the ground on Sunday, cause does anybody in the States know where Carolina is? Lol
I do! It's my home state and also the site of where our Niners will play and advance to the NFC Championship.
We're known for two things: 1) First in Flight (the Wright brothers are from here) and 2) We serve as a one-day host for the Niners' Quest for Six!!!!!!
Being that it is your home "state," you should know that there is no state of "Carolina."
Jan 10, 2014 at 10:42 AM
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Cam is goof ball. All i needed to hear was that he blew off the pro bowl. I know it's just the pro bowl, but that shows that he's not much of a competitor and doesn't give a f**k that he's representing his team.
Jan 10, 2014 at 10:49 AM
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We were missing Vernon and Aldon (12 snaps in his first game back from rehab) for most of the game as well. Vernon is just as important as Crabtree, as the only game we "lost" in which Vernon played the entire game this year was @ NO - a game that we win if the refs aren't total vaginas. That doesn't mean we are going to automatically win, and I certainly don't like how overconfident most people/media are. Carolina is a good team with a great defensive line that spanked our o-line last time. That is the only thing from the last game that we need to worry about. With Vernon, Crabtree and Aldon in prime form, we are considerably better than last time we played. But the change of venue and the fact that this is the 3rd straight roadie for the Niners may also have a big impact. I think we are a slightly better version of them, but it makes me nervous that EVERYONE seems to be picking us. One thing the NFL is not is predictable.
Jan 10, 2014 at 10:57 AM
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Arm strength pretty much even? Not according to the veteran NFL trainer who worked with both of them. One more time:
NFL QB trainer Chip Smith, who worked with both Kaepernick and Newton before they were drafted compared the two. He has worked with top NFL draft prospects for over 20 years: "Colin is actually a little bit better athletically," said Smith. "He's a little faster -- I've clocked him as low as a 4.4 -- and there isn't a quarterback in this draft who throws the ball with the velocity that Colin does. Colin is a better athlete, and he understands the game better ... Of the 56 quarterbacks I've worked with, Colin is the most prepared for the NFL."
-- From Rotoworld
NFL QB trainer Chip Smith, who worked with both Kaepernick and Newton before they were drafted compared the two. He has worked with top NFL draft prospects for over 20 years: "Colin is actually a little bit better athletically," said Smith. "He's a little faster -- I've clocked him as low as a 4.4 -- and there isn't a quarterback in this draft who throws the ball with the velocity that Colin does. Colin is a better athlete, and he understands the game better ... Of the 56 quarterbacks I've worked with, Colin is the most prepared for the NFL."
-- From Rotoworld
Jan 10, 2014 at 10:59 AM
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I've been listening off an on past couple days to WFNZ-Charlotte (via internet) and it's amusing to hear some of their hosts and nearly all their callers rip Kaepernick but then drink at the fountain of Cam Newton...it's not quite to the level of delusion and disturbing infatuation that Hawk fans have with Lil Rusty Wilson, but it's close.
In particular, they keep going back to last week's game vs Packers and using that as "proof" of how much CK sucks, i.e. 49ers could only score 23 points against a "terrible" GB defense. But they conveniently ignore what CK was able to accomplish in what were literally Arctic conditions, and also don't mention he's building up a nice little post-season resume, with road wins in a dome (that included coming back from 17-0) and in an ice bowl, not to mention a HaRo play-calling lapse away from a historic Super Bowl comeback.
Yet somehow Cam Newton is head-and-shoulders better than CK.? Who knows, maybe Newton does play like a superstar in these playoffs, but to disparage CK with what they've been saying is uninformed and downright stupid.
In particular, they keep going back to last week's game vs Packers and using that as "proof" of how much CK sucks, i.e. 49ers could only score 23 points against a "terrible" GB defense. But they conveniently ignore what CK was able to accomplish in what were literally Arctic conditions, and also don't mention he's building up a nice little post-season resume, with road wins in a dome (that included coming back from 17-0) and in an ice bowl, not to mention a HaRo play-calling lapse away from a historic Super Bowl comeback.
Yet somehow Cam Newton is head-and-shoulders better than CK.? Who knows, maybe Newton does play like a superstar in these playoffs, but to disparage CK with what they've been saying is uninformed and downright stupid.
Jan 10, 2014 at 11:05 AM
- BodhiPaddlesOut
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What games does Cam have that compare to Kap's wins @ NE and GB?
Jan 10, 2014 at 11:10 AM
- crake49
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There's only one thing that will put a cap on all that blather and everyone around here knows what it is. Kaepernick needs to blow up on them Sunday and the Niner defense needs to continue to shut Newton down. That will shut most of them down. Not all of them, but most of them.
Jan 10, 2014 at 11:22 AM
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Panther fans on kap? I am sure panther fans will try to stay in a positive mood by trying to grasp onto any reason for the panthers to win. Kap isn't that fast, doesn't read defenses, eats too much junk food, punches small babies, whatever...
Kap needs to worry about scoring points, Newton needs to worry what Brooks, the Smiths, and the rest of the front seven are planning on doing to Cam.
Kap needs to worry about scoring points, Newton needs to worry what Brooks, the Smiths, and the rest of the front seven are planning on doing to Cam.
Jan 10, 2014 at 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by pdizo916:
yea, they're mirror images of each other, but i give the edge to their defense and offense.
I think it's funny when people use "mirror image" to say two things are alike. When in fact a mirror image is total opposite of the real image.
Jan 10, 2014 at 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by DelCed2486:
I've been listening off an on past couple days to WFNZ-Charlotte (via internet) and it's amusing to hear some of their hosts and nearly all their callers rip Kaepernick but then drink at the fountain of Cam Newton...it's not quite to the level of delusion and disturbing infatuation that Hawk fans have with Lil Rusty Wilson, but it's close.
In particular, they keep going back to last week's game vs Packers and using that as "proof" of how much CK sucks, i.e. 49ers could only score 23 points against a "terrible" GB defense. But they conveniently ignore what CK was able to accomplish in what were literally Arctic conditions, and also don't mention he's building up a nice little post-season resume, with road wins in a dome (that included coming back from 17-0) and in an ice bowl, not to mention a HaRo play-calling lapse away from a historic Super Bowl comeback.
Yet somehow Cam Newton is head-and-shoulders better than CK.? Who knows, maybe Newton does play like a superstar in these playoffs, but to disparage CK with what they've been saying is uninformed and downright stupid.
I have no doubt if Carolina had to play that wild card game in GB they would lose 9 times out of 10.