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If Roman Leaves, how about Chud?

  • Jcool
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Originally posted by kap2crab:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Guess everyone forgets Jack was the RB coach at Stanford for there bowl game in 2009.

One game. He's gonna be 75 years old, no way he gets back into coaching.

Well of course he isn't going to get back into coaching. Only point i was making was that it had already happened.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
You guys are nuts.

If Roman leaves the replacement OC is already on the staff. They are NOT going to bring in a whole new system because its Harbaughs system to begin with.

I though maybe Drevno before he left, but perhaps Chryst. They might look at the Stanford staff as well.

Norv? Seriously? Not gonna happen.

The whole "he runs a different offense" thing is so overrated. People act like an OC can't adjust play calling based on what a team requires. Trestman came on to replace Shanahan, was told to call the WHO and he called a purer version than Shanahan had even. This offense is largely predicated on running the ball and vertical passing, both strengths of Norv. I don't think you promote someone just because they are there, that's how you get a guy like Hostler.



For those advocating Chryst, find me one, just one, not two, not three, but one successful coordinator on either side of the ball who went 14 years in between gigs that wasn't a head coach during some portion of that time? Hell even Jimmy Raye didn't go that long between OC jobs. I think there's plenty of good reason why after Chryst fizzled out in San Diego, that no team came knocking on his door to be an OC. One of my very best friends is a long-term Chargers fan, I mean going back to both of us watching the 49ers-Chargers Superbowl together when we were younger, even to this day if you bring up Chryst's name it results in a steady stream of inappropriate four letter words. To say that his playcalling was awful would be being very generous. People focus on the Ryan Leaf season but forget that he was equally bad in 1999 with Harbaugh as the QB.

I think if Roman goes, Harbaugh's selection of an OC will be very telling about him in general. Does he promote a mediocre candidate because they are simply around, or does he bring in somebody from outside the organization with perhaps a fresh perspective and some new ideas. You can easily find someone to run this offense, the basics of it are Infante passing downfield and a Bo-Ball running game, the whole "WCO" angle is largely overplayed.


It doesn't have to be Norv, but someone experienced with calling a vertical passing offense as well as having strong credentials in calling the run game would most definitely be welcome. Norv was included simple because he did very well with the 49ers when he was here, a lot of his offensive tenets matchup well with Harbaugh's and Gore already had the best season of his career with Norv calling the plays. That said, I would like to find someone highly competent in calling passing offense especially, there's a lot of good candidates out there and the whole "they don't fit the system" excuse is kind of a bogus. There really isn't a system, not the way Andy Reid has in KC or some other teams, its a mish-mash of a variety of things but the general philosophy is heavy-run offense and vertical passing. Someone like Hue Jackson could also do very well with this offense.


Harbaugh's brother brought in a guy off the street and replaced their previous OC without missing a beat and they won a Superbowl in the process. The key is someone that meshes well with Harbaugh when it comes to offensive philosophy and there's plenty who would be good fits for this team out there.

Great post.
Originally posted by kap2crab:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by kap2crab:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
You guys are nuts.

If Roman leaves the replacement OC is already on the staff. They are NOT going to bring in a whole new system because its Harbaughs system to begin with.

I though maybe Drevno before he left, but perhaps Chryst. They might look at the Stanford staff as well.

Norv? Seriously? Not gonna happen.

You're contradicting yourself there. Also, there's no way that there's no way we wouldn't bring an outsider on. It's absolutely in the realm of possibility.

It's certainly possible, but less likely when you have an offensive HC. They tend to promote within, or hire someone who already has familiarity running their scheme. Defensive HCs are typically not married to any offensive scheme, nor have the expertise on that side of the ball, which is why you see so many of them cycle through coordinators of all backgrounds before finding the right fit.

Hiring someone from the Stanford staff would not be a contradiction, because they obviously run Harbaugh's scheme. Hiring a complete outsider would require the new OC to scrap much of what he did in the past, and adjust to a new philosophy. That doesn't happen often, which is why the Kelly-Shurmur pairing was so unique. It's the exception, not the rule.

Exactly. I'm glad someone understood my point.

Pep Hamilton might have been good, but he's in Indy now.

BTW, I'm not sying the OC SHOULD be Chryst. I'm saying its very possible it WILL by Chryst. Harbaugh has known Roman will get another job for some time. He won't be caught flat footed. I'm sure he has a plan and I'm pretty sure he probably already has his next guy on his staff already. Could be Cryst. Could be Morton. I thought it might be Drevno, but he's already got another job.

This isn't a Hostler reboot. Nolan panicked becasue they lost Norv late in the process. Harbaugh won't panic. He's known this was a possibility for a long time. A big reason why Harbaugh was hired was because he was an offensive coach. The team was tired of learning a new offense every single year. Harbaugh braight stability to the offensive side of the ball and they WILL NOT change that in order to bring in Norv Turner. Not gonna happen.

It will be a guy on the staff, a guy from Stanford, or someone he's worked with in the past. Count on it.

At this point though, Roman might stay...especially if the Niners keep winning.

I think it's all a toss up and no fan has any idea what the hell Harbaugh has in mind. It could very well be a promotion from within, it could very well be an outsider. I'm by no means on any sort of Norv Turner bandwagon, but hypothetically if we did hire Turner, it wouldn't be our offense adjusting to what Turner wants to do, it would be Turner adjusting to what we want to do.

...which he won't do. He's been running HIS offense forever...he's not going to change.

Harbaugh likes good coaches. He attracts them as well. There is a reason Mangini is here.

If there is someone out there he really likes, he may look outside the team...but that guy will have to be a West Coast guy and it would have to be an extraordinary circumstance. The system will not change again. I just don't see it happening. Its alot to ask for a name guy to come in and change everything he has done to be a part of this team. I guess it COULD happen, I just don't think it will.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Jan 9, 2014 at 9:51 AM ]
Here is another take...Baalke. All of these coaching jobs are being filled quickly. How many OC's out there would be ideal in bringing a great system here and it being ideal for our personnel? We all know (and have known for a while) that Roman is 1 1/2 feet out the door so would Baalke be willing to bring in someone before Roman even left? Should he strike while the iron is hot? We all know he always has a plan and thinks ahead...if he doesn't move now, we may have no choice to hire within and that could potentially, be a step back if we stay with the same system/offensive philosophy.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
...which he won't do. He's been running HIS offense forever...he's not going to change.

Harbaugh likes good coaches. He attracts them as well. There is a reason Mangini is here.

If there is someone out there he really likes, he may look outside the team...but that guy will have to be a West Coast guy and it would have to be an extraordinary circumstance. The system will not change again. I just don't see it happening. Its alot to ask for a name guy to come in and change everything he has done to be a part of this team. I guess it COULD happen, I just don't think it will.

I agree...the longer we wait to see what happens with Roman the more likely we end up staying in house with the same system/offensive philosophy.
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by kap2crab:
Originally posted by cciowa:
roman and great play caller do not belong in the same sentence in my opinion

The 'like Roman' reference was in regards to the run game/blocking scheme creativity which he's shown to be great at.

until it works and then he runs away from it to try to show everyone he is smarter than the game, first and goal at the five yard line vs a bad defense is the perfect time to execute what you say he is "great" at.. what did he do?
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
You guys are nuts.

If Roman leaves the replacement OC is already on the staff. They are NOT going to bring in a whole new system because its Harbaughs system to begin with.

I though maybe Drevno before he left, but perhaps Chryst. They might look at the Stanford staff as well.

Norv? Seriously? Not gonna happen.

The whole "he runs a different offense" thing is so overrated. People act like an OC can't adjust play calling based on what a team requires. Trestman came on to replace Shanahan, was told to call the WHO and he called a purer version than Shanahan had even. This offense is largely predicated on running the ball and vertical passing, both strengths of Norv. I don't think you promote someone just because they are there, that's how you get a guy like Hostler.



For those advocating Chryst, find me one, just one, not two, not three, but one successful coordinator on either side of the ball who went 14 years in between gigs that wasn't a head coach during some portion of that time? Hell even Jimmy Raye didn't go that long between OC jobs. I think there's plenty of good reason why after Chryst fizzled out in San Diego, that no team came knocking on his door to be an OC. One of my very best friends is a long-term Chargers fan, I mean going back to both of us watching the 49ers-Chargers Superbowl together when we were younger, even to this day if you bring up Chryst's name it results in a steady stream of inappropriate four letter words. To say that his playcalling was awful would be being very generous. People focus on the Ryan Leaf season but forget that he was equally bad in 1999 with Harbaugh as the QB.

I think if Roman goes, Harbaugh's selection of an OC will be very telling about him in general. Does he promote a mediocre candidate because they are simply around, or does he bring in somebody from outside the organization with perhaps a fresh perspective and some new ideas. You can easily find someone to run this offense, the basics of it are Infante passing downfield and a Bo-Ball running game, the whole "WCO" angle is largely overplayed.


It doesn't have to be Norv, but someone experienced with calling a vertical passing offense as well as having strong credentials in calling the run game would most definitely be welcome. Norv was included simple because he did very well with the 49ers when he was here, a lot of his offensive tenets matchup well with Harbaugh's and Gore already had the best season of his career with Norv calling the plays. That said, I would like to find someone highly competent in calling passing offense especially, there's a lot of good candidates out there and the whole "they don't fit the system" excuse is kind of a bogus. There really isn't a system, not the way Andy Reid has in KC or some other teams, its a mish-mash of a variety of things but the general philosophy is heavy-run offense and vertical passing. Someone like Hue Jackson could also do very well with this offense.


Harbaugh's brother brought in a guy off the street and replaced their previous OC without missing a beat and they won a Superbowl in the process. The key is someone that meshes well with Harbaugh when it comes to offensive philosophy and there's plenty who would be good fits for this team out there.

Great post.

Agreed
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
...which he won't do. He's been running HIS offense forever...he's not going to change.

Harbaugh likes good coaches. He attracts them as well. There is a reason Mangini is here.

If there is someone out there he really likes, he may look outside the team...but that guy will have to be a West Coast guy and it would have to be an extraordinary circumstance. The system will not change again. I just don't see it happening. Its alot to ask for a name guy to come in and change everything he has done to be a part of this team. I guess it COULD happen, I just don't think it will.

I agree...the longer we wait to see what happens with Roman the more likely we end up staying in house with the same system/offensive philosophy.


I think the system/offensive philosophy will stay the same regardless. That's Harbaugh. Roman is the OC, but the offense isn't all Roman. Harbaugh was hired to bring in HIS system. There may be a different guy calling the plays, but it will be a guy who runs the offense the way Harbaugh wants it run.

If peeps want the run first, TE loving offense to go away, then they better hope someone lures HARBAUGH away, not Roman. I for one love this offense even if there are calls here and there that frustrate me.

To all those "it's a passing league" guys, take a look at who the final 4 are right now in the NFC.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Jan 9, 2014 at 10:13 AM ]
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
...which he won't do. He's been running HIS offense forever...he's not going to change.

Harbaugh likes good coaches. He attracts them as well. There is a reason Mangini is here.

If there is someone out there he really likes, he may look outside the team...but that guy will have to be a West Coast guy and it would have to be an extraordinary circumstance. The system will not change again. I just don't see it happening. Its alot to ask for a name guy to come in and change everything he has done to be a part of this team. I guess it COULD happen, I just don't think it will.

I agree...the longer we wait to see what happens with Roman the more likely we end up staying in house with the same system/offensive philosophy.


I think the system/offensive philosophy will stay the same regardless. That's Harbaugh. Roman is the OC, but the offense isn't all Roman. Harbaugh was hired to bring in HIS system. There may be a different guy calling the plays, but it will be a guy who runs the offense the way Harbaugh wants it run.

If peeps want the run first, TE loving offense to go away, then they better hope someone lures HARBAUGH away, not Roman. I for one love this offense even if there are calls here and there that frustrate me.

To all those "it's a passing league" guys, take a look at who the final 4 are right now in the NFC.

Yeah, this is why I always call them HaRoMan but if I had to guess, it starts with Harbaugh and this is his Schemblacher/Stanford system (Roman's added wrinkles...Q formatons, some WCO designs, etc.) but this is his system and what he knows and subscribes mostly too; heavy run-focused with intermediate team-passing concepts and a mobile/running QB. And I agree...the only caveat here is if Baalke steps in here and makes Harbaugh go another direction. Then, would Harbaugh want to stay LT with "less control?" So odds are, it is what it is whether it's Roman as the symbolism of it all or not....it will STILL most likely end up being the same playbook, same system, same game plans next year with the same 6 or 7 men contributing to the compartmentalized game plans and in-game play calling.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 9, 2014 at 10:26 AM ]
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
...which he won't do. He's been running HIS offense forever...he's not going to change.

Harbaugh likes good coaches. He attracts them as well. There is a reason Mangini is here.

If there is someone out there he really likes, he may look outside the team...but that guy will have to be a West Coast guy and it would have to be an extraordinary circumstance. The system will not change again. I just don't see it happening. Its alot to ask for a name guy to come in and change everything he has done to be a part of this team. I guess it COULD happen, I just don't think it will.

I agree...the longer we wait to see what happens with Roman the more likely we end up staying in house with the same system/offensive philosophy.


I think the system/offensive philosophy will stay the same regardless. That's Harbaugh. Roman is the OC, but the offense isn't all Roman. Harbaugh was hired to bring in HIS system. There may be a different guy calling the plays, but it will be a guy who runs the offense the way Harbaugh wants it run.

If peeps want the run first, TE loving offense to go away, then they better hope someone lures HARBAUGH away, not Roman. I for one love this offense even if there are calls here and there that frustrate me.

To all those "it's a passing league" guys, take a look at who the final 4 are right now in the NFC.

Yeah, this is why I always call them HaRoMan but if I had to guess, it starts with Harbaugh and this is his Schemblacher/Stanford system (Roman's added wrinkles...Q formatons, some WCO designs, etc.) but this is his system and what he knows and subscribes mostly too; heavy run-focused with intermediate team-passing concepts and a mobile/running QB. And I agree...the only caveat here is if Baalke steps in here and makes Harbaugh go another direction. Then, would Harbaugh want to stay LT with "less control?" So odds are, it is what it is whether it's Roman as the symbolism of it all or not....it will STILL most likely end up being the same playbook, same system, same game plans next year with the same 6 or 7 men contributing to the compartmentalized game plans and in-game play calling.


...and I just don't see Baalke doing that.

For all the complaints about the passing O and odd calls in the redzone and short yardage, this is the 11th best scoring offense in the NFL that was missing some pretty significant pieces for large portions of the season. They still had the 3rd largest point differencial in the NFL (and yes, defense is a part of that stat as well).

For all of our Roman complaining, his offense was pretty damned effective this year and has improved steadily since Crabtree returned.

Bottom line, the formula works. Thats why the Niners were in the NFC Championship in 2011, the SB last year, and are in the Divisional Round this year. The defense is a big part of that but good defense isn't everything. That same defense had major issues late last year and it was the offense that saved the day vs GB and ATL.

Roman is this sites biggest whipping boy. While I admit there are times that he frustrates me, he is probably the best OC this team has had since Shanahan.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Jan 9, 2014 at 10:48 AM ]
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
...which he won't do. He's been running HIS offense forever...he's not going to change.

Harbaugh likes good coaches. He attracts them as well. There is a reason Mangini is here.

If there is someone out there he really likes, he may look outside the team...but that guy will have to be a West Coast guy and it would have to be an extraordinary circumstance. The system will not change again. I just don't see it happening. Its alot to ask for a name guy to come in and change everything he has done to be a part of this team. I guess it COULD happen, I just don't think it will.

I agree...the longer we wait to see what happens with Roman the more likely we end up staying in house with the same system/offensive philosophy.


I think the system/offensive philosophy will stay the same regardless. That's Harbaugh. Roman is the OC, but the offense isn't all Roman. Harbaugh was hired to bring in HIS system. There may be a different guy calling the plays, but it will be a guy who runs the offense the way Harbaugh wants it run.

If peeps want the run first, TE loving offense to go away, then they better hope someone lures HARBAUGH away, not Roman. I for one love this offense even if there are calls here and there that frustrate me.

To all those "it's a passing league" guys, take a look at who the final 4 are right now in the NFC.

Yeah, this is why I always call them HaRoMan but if I had to guess, it starts with Harbaugh and this is his Schemblacher/Stanford system (Roman's added wrinkles...Q formatons, some WCO designs, etc.) but this is his system and what he knows and subscribes mostly too; heavy run-focused with intermediate team-passing concepts and a mobile/running QB. And I agree...the only caveat here is if Baalke steps in here and makes Harbaugh go another direction. Then, would Harbaugh want to stay LT with "less control?" So odds are, it is what it is whether it's Roman as the symbolism of it all or not....it will STILL most likely end up being the same playbook, same system, same game plans next year with the same 6 or 7 men contributing to the compartmentalized game plans and in-game play calling.


...and I just don't see Baalke doing that.

For all the complaints about the passing O and odd calls in the redzone and short yardage, this is the 11th best scoring offense in the NFL that was missing some pretty significant pieces for large portions of the season. They still had the 3rd largest point differencial in the NFL (and yes, defense is a part of that stat as well).

For all of our Roman complaining, his offense was pretty damned effective this year and has improved steadily since Crabtree returned.

Bottom line, the formula works. Thats why the Niners were in the NFC Championship in 2011, the SB last year, and are in the Divisional Round this year. The defense is a big part of that but good defense isn't everything. That same defense had major issues late last year and it was the offense that saved the day vs GB and ATL.

Roman is this sites biggest whipping boy. While I admit there are times that he frustrates me, he is probably the best OC this team has had since Shanahan.

That isn't the question here anymore though.

The question is, "Can this system/philosophy/game planning/play calling WIN the Superbowl?"
Originally posted by Marvin49:
I think the system/offensive philosophy will stay the same regardless. That's Harbaugh. Roman is the OC, but the offense isn't all Roman. Harbaugh was hired to bring in HIS system. There may be a different guy calling the plays, but it will be a guy who runs the offense the way Harbaugh wants it run.

If peeps want the run first, TE loving offense to go away, then they better hope someone lures HARBAUGH away, not Roman. I for one love this offense even if there are calls here and there that frustrate me.

To all those "it's a passing league" guys, take a look at who the final 4 are right now in the NFC.

Great point! Even the Saints have become much more of a running offense this year. And all three other teams had more running plays than passing plays this season.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
...which he won't do. He's been running HIS offense forever...he's not going to change.

Harbaugh likes good coaches. He attracts them as well. There is a reason Mangini is here.

If there is someone out there he really likes, he may look outside the team...but that guy will have to be a West Coast guy and it would have to be an extraordinary circumstance. The system will not change again. I just don't see it happening. Its alot to ask for a name guy to come in and change everything he has done to be a part of this team. I guess it COULD happen, I just don't think it will.

I agree...the longer we wait to see what happens with Roman the more likely we end up staying in house with the same system/offensive philosophy.


I think the system/offensive philosophy will stay the same regardless. That's Harbaugh. Roman is the OC, but the offense isn't all Roman. Harbaugh was hired to bring in HIS system. There may be a different guy calling the plays, but it will be a guy who runs the offense the way Harbaugh wants it run.

If peeps want the run first, TE loving offense to go away, then they better hope someone lures HARBAUGH away, not Roman. I for one love this offense even if there are calls here and there that frustrate me.

To all those "it's a passing league" guys, take a look at who the final 4 are right now in the NFC.

Yeah, this is why I always call them HaRoMan but if I had to guess, it starts with Harbaugh and this is his Schemblacher/Stanford system (Roman's added wrinkles...Q formatons, some WCO designs, etc.) but this is his system and what he knows and subscribes mostly too; heavy run-focused with intermediate team-passing concepts and a mobile/running QB. And I agree...the only caveat here is if Baalke steps in here and makes Harbaugh go another direction. Then, would Harbaugh want to stay LT with "less control?" So odds are, it is what it is whether it's Roman as the symbolism of it all or not....it will STILL most likely end up being the same playbook, same system, same game plans next year with the same 6 or 7 men contributing to the compartmentalized game plans and in-game play calling.


...and I just don't see Baalke doing that.

For all the complaints about the passing O and odd calls in the redzone and short yardage, this is the 11th best scoring offense in the NFL that was missing some pretty significant pieces for large portions of the season. They still had the 3rd largest point differencial in the NFL (and yes, defense is a part of that stat as well).

For all of our Roman complaining, his offense was pretty damned effective this year and has improved steadily since Crabtree returned.

Bottom line, the formula works. Thats why the Niners were in the NFC Championship in 2011, the SB last year, and are in the Divisional Round this year. The defense is a big part of that but good defense isn't everything. That same defense had major issues late last year and it was the offense that saved the day vs GB and ATL.

Roman is this sites biggest whipping boy. While I admit there are times that he frustrates me, he is probably the best OC this team has had since Shanahan.

That isn't the question here anymore though.

The question is, "Can this system/philosophy/game planning/play calling WIN the Superbowl?"

Yes. IMO anyway.
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
...which he won't do. He's been running HIS offense forever...he's not going to change.

Harbaugh likes good coaches. He attracts them as well. There is a reason Mangini is here.

If there is someone out there he really likes, he may look outside the team...but that guy will have to be a West Coast guy and it would have to be an extraordinary circumstance. The system will not change again. I just don't see it happening. Its alot to ask for a name guy to come in and change everything he has done to be a part of this team. I guess it COULD happen, I just don't think it will.

I agree...the longer we wait to see what happens with Roman the more likely we end up staying in house with the same system/offensive philosophy.


I think the system/offensive philosophy will stay the same regardless. That's Harbaugh. Roman is the OC, but the offense isn't all Roman. Harbaugh was hired to bring in HIS system. There may be a different guy calling the plays, but it will be a guy who runs the offense the way Harbaugh wants it run.

If peeps want the run first, TE loving offense to go away, then they better hope someone lures HARBAUGH away, not Roman. I for one love this offense even if there are calls here and there that frustrate me.

To all those "it's a passing league" guys, take a look at who the final 4 are right now in the NFC.

Yeah, this is why I always call them HaRoMan but if I had to guess, it starts with Harbaugh and this is his Schemblacher/Stanford system (Roman's added wrinkles...Q formatons, some WCO designs, etc.) but this is his system and what he knows and subscribes mostly too; heavy run-focused with intermediate team-passing concepts and a mobile/running QB. And I agree...the only caveat here is if Baalke steps in here and makes Harbaugh go another direction. Then, would Harbaugh want to stay LT with "less control?" So odds are, it is what it is whether it's Roman as the symbolism of it all or not....it will STILL most likely end up being the same playbook, same system, same game plans next year with the same 6 or 7 men contributing to the compartmentalized game plans and in-game play calling.


...and I just don't see Baalke doing that.

For all the complaints about the passing O and odd calls in the redzone and short yardage, this is the 11th best scoring offense in the NFL that was missing some pretty significant pieces for large portions of the season. They still had the 3rd largest point differencial in the NFL (and yes, defense is a part of that stat as well).

For all of our Roman complaining, his offense was pretty damned effective this year and has improved steadily since Crabtree returned.

Bottom line, the formula works. Thats why the Niners were in the NFC Championship in 2011, the SB last year, and are in the Divisional Round this year. The defense is a big part of that but good defense isn't everything. That same defense had major issues late last year and it was the offense that saved the day vs GB and ATL.

Roman is this sites biggest whipping boy. While I admit there are times that he frustrates me, he is probably the best OC this team has had since Shanahan.

That isn't the question here anymore though.

The question is, "Can this system/philosophy/game planning/play calling WIN the Superbowl?"

Yes. IMO anyway.

Fully respect that opinion!
  • Jcool
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Originally posted by NCommand:
That isn't the question here anymore though.

The question is, "Can this system/philosophy/game planning/play calling WIN the Superbowl?"

Considering the offense put up 31 points in the Superbowl... Yes this "system/philosophy/game planning/play calling" can WIN the Superbowl.