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If Roman Leaves, how about Chud?

Norv is a completely different system and terminology, never going to happen.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by kap2crab:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
You guys are nuts.

If Roman leaves the replacement OC is already on the staff. They are NOT going to bring in a whole new system because its Harbaughs system to begin with.

I though maybe Drevno before he left, but perhaps Chryst. They might look at the Stanford staff as well.

Norv? Seriously? Not gonna happen.

You're contradicting yourself there. Also, there's no way that there's no way we wouldn't bring an outsider on. It's absolutely in the realm of possibility.

It's certainly possible, but less likely when you have an offensive HC. They tend to promote within, or hire someone who already has familiarity running their scheme. Defensive HCs are typically not married to any offensive scheme, nor have the expertise on that side of the ball, which is why you see so many of them cycle through coordinators of all backgrounds before finding the right fit.

Hiring someone from the Stanford staff would not be a contradiction, because they obviously run Harbaugh's scheme. Hiring a complete outsider would require the new OC to scrap much of what he did in the past, and adjust to a new philosophy. That doesn't happen often, which is why the Kelly-Shurmur pairing was so unique. It's the exception, not the rule.

Agreed...it would have the be a Baalke call if we changed systems IMHO.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think if Roman goes, Harbaugh's selection of an OC will be very telling about him in general.

This!
Originally posted by mayo49:
Just hire from with in and keep the continuity going.

I hear you but why not an OC that meshes better with our personnel and specifically, CK? Continuity is great if you have a successful foundation to carry over but it's safe to say, we've haven't reached our potential and are not dynamic given all the talent we do have.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think if Roman goes, Harbaugh's selection of an OC will be very telling about him in general.

This!

Its going to be Geep Chryst
how about D'Klester Harduckenchud?
Originally posted by JeuSF49:
Norv is a completely different system and terminology, never going to happen.

yup. Close thread
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think if Roman goes, Harbaugh's selection of an OC will be very telling about him in general.

This!

Its going to be Geep Chryst

I genuinely believe there will be a battle between Baalke/Harbaugh unless they happen to see eye-to-eye right now. But my guess is, Harbaugh is married to Roman and this philosophy so in short, he's blind. Baalke/Jed are not. It's much easier to "see" the patterns we've all seen by now and Baalke himself, with all the talent he's brought in here (and let go) has to be saying to himself, "WTF? Why are we not dominating teams offensively and only using 1/2 of our talent exclusively." There is little doubt he is tied to other GM's and systems around the NFL and can easily see how much more other systems/coaches got out of no-name players vs. us, the most talented and deepest team in the NFL (and we're about to get richer). It doesn't take much to see that CK and this offense is probably best suited for a spread-like offense IMHO. Clearly we've won many games on the heels of ST and the D and incredible individual clutch plays. It's also a system where you can't plug-and-play and extremely complex b/c we have no true identity. It's clearly compartmentalized as well and we've seen the end result. Baalke doesn't mess around b/c this is his butt on the line as well and Jed wants to win #6 badly. So we probably shouldn't assume we'll just hire within. It will also be a fine line between potentially taking power away from Harbaugh (the OC/system) and giving him "more control" and a LT contract. This should all be very interesting to watch play out.
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
I think if Roman goes, Harbaugh's selection of an OC will be very telling about him in general.

This!

Its going to be Geep Chryst

I genuinely believe there will be a battle between Baalke/Harbaugh unless they happen to see eye-to-eye right now. But my guess is, Harbaugh is married to Roman and this philosophy so in short, he's blind. Baalke/Jed are not. It's much easier to "see" the patterns we've all seen by now and Baalke himself, with all the talent he's brought in here (and let go) has to be saying to himself, "WTF? Why are we not dominating teams offensively and only using 1/2 of our talent exclusively." There is little doubt he is tied to other GM's and systems around the NFL and can easily see how much more other systems/coaches got out of no-name players vs. us, the most talented and deepest team in the NFL (and we're about to get richer). It doesn't take much to see that CK and this offense is probably best suited for a spread-like offense IMHO. Clearly we've won many games on the heels of ST and the D and incredible individual clutch plays. It's also a system where you can't plug-and-play and extremely complex b/c we have no true identity. It's clearly compartmentalized as well and we've seen the end result. Baalke doesn't mess around b/c this is his butt on the line as well and Jed wants to win #6 badly. So we probably shouldn't assume we'll just hire within. It will also be a fine line between potentially taking power away from Harbaugh (the OC/system) and giving him "more control" and a LT contract. This should all be very interesting to watch play out.

36 wins and 4 playoff wins in 3 years. Baalke/Jed will have ZERO say on what Harbaugh does with his staff.
Originally posted by Jcool:
36 wins and 4 playoff wins in 3 years. Baalke/Jed will have ZERO say on what Harbaugh does with his staff.

Coaches don't win games without talent. Just as Harbaugh gets input on choosing various players, I'm sure Baalke would be involved when it comes to replacing someone like Roman. Nothing just happens in a vacuum.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jan 9, 2014 at 7:07 AM ]
Originally posted by Jcool:
Its going to be Geep Chryst

Basically that would mean Harbaugh is settling for mediocrity and someone who won't step on his toes, a Singletary move.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Jan 9, 2014 at 7:08 AM ]
a lot of us have been making comments about Geep Chryst getting the OC gig after Roman leaves? ...but what if Tomsula, Fangio or Roman leave and takes Chryst with them? ....hopefully Harbaugh has a plan in place so our next OC hits the ground running
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by Jcool:
36 wins and 4 playoff wins in 3 years. Baalke/Jed will have ZERO say on what Harbaugh does with his staff.

Coaches don't win games without talent. Just as Harbaugh gets input on choosing various players, I'm sure Baalke would be involved when it comes to replacing someone like Roman. Nothing just happens in a vacuum.

Exactly. Jcool, are you kidding me? This team is built to win Superbowls, not rack up wins. Jed, like his uncle, has the highest standards now and will not settle for double-digit wins w/o challenging or winning the Superbowl every year esp. entering the new stadium era. After 18+ games this year and an off season to boot (and last year), there are plenty of obvious patterns and questions Baalke will have of Harbaugh and this system/philosophy. This isn't about you being happy where we are at now b/c of the poor recent past but where we are going and should be at and Baalke is a GM who is constantly 2 and 3 years down the road.
[ Edited by NCommand on Jan 9, 2014 at 7:13 AM ]
Originally posted by NeeJ49er:
a lot of us have been making comments about Geep Chryst getting the OC gig after Roman leaves? ...but what if Tomsula, Fangio or Roman leave and takes Chryst with them? ....hopefully Harbaugh has a plan in place so our next OC hits the ground running

Very valid point! This is why I believe IF someone actually hires Roman, we may seek an outside OC and implement a new system.
Wonder if he interviews at Vanderbilt. Its funny b/c Vanderbilt passed on him for Franklin. Penn State just passed on Roman for Franklin. And if Franklin takes the Penn State job that leaves the Vanderbilt job open. Roman might get a shot this time around.
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