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I can't be the only one who LOVED the officiating!

I can't be the only one who LOVED the officiating!

it was a normal game to me. some good calls, some bad ones. other than that nothing to see here.
if they allowing holding like that then Seattle gonna shut out everybody.
Originally posted by 24plus25er:
Zoner logic; complain about Seahawks mugging out DBs, praise refs for letting it happen in the playoffs. Had we lost people would be crying bloody murder. Call the game the same, pre-season, reg season, and most importantly PLAYOFFS.

I agree 100%. There should be no deviation from the published rules and the leagues top 5 priority should be to get the games called as consistently and as accurately as humanly possible.
[ Edited by WINiner on Jan 6, 2014 at 5:26 PM ]
the only one that pissed me off was the hold on Ray Mac. I liked the fact they let the DBs on both sides be aggressive
Originally posted by susweel:
if they allowing holding like that then Seattle gonna shut out everybody.

This, just give them the Lombardi now
In the last 2 playoff games there were 3 fouls in the endzone vs Crabtree and no calls.......the refs can give him a little respect
Originally posted by FredFlintstone:
Originally posted by susweel:
if they allowing holding like that then Seattle gonna shut out everybody.

This, just give them the Lombardi now

agreed.....i also think their Oline holds even more than their DBs.......
I get the lack of db holding calls that went both ways (though way more so benefited the packers who robbed us of 2 td's by holding). You are bat s**t crazy if you like the no hold call on the McDonald hold/facemask/neck grab. Not only should the play have been called dead when Rodgers was wrapped up, but that was a holding and facemask on a 4th down conversion no less. That is the definition of letting bad officiating decide the outcome of the game. The referee crew should be counting their blessings that the 49ers won because you can be damn sure that would've been their last playoff game this year.
[ Edited by 49oz2superbowl on Jan 6, 2014 at 6:31 PM ]
I don't know about 23% of you.

Originally posted by 24plus25er:
Zoner logic; complain about Seahawks mugging out DBs, praise refs for letting it happen in the playoffs. Had we lost people would be crying bloody murder. Call the game the same, pre-season, reg season, and most importantly PLAYOFFS.

I agree, however, that isn't going to happen. The officials in the playoffs are there because they were judged better than the ones in the regular season. Hence, when we see fewer flags being thrown, that should indicate the way the game should be played. Some officials tend to be control freaks and call everything. Others tend to let far too much get by. The playoff officials should be in the middle.

My point is that in all four games, the officials made fewer calls than in the regular season…and I like it that way. Too many ticky tacky calls in the regular season. "Letting the players play" just means not making a lot of ticky tacky calls that do northing other than slow down the game.
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by jimrat:
These no calls cost us the Super Bowl last year............

Yep.

Do you people that like to use the phrase "let guys play" like when they let guys play like this?





I know someone that didn't...


That is NOT a hold by rule. On a return the only way it's a hold is if the player being blocked goes to the ground. That's why they kept lifting him up off the ground on that play, as you can see in the provided picture, to ensure he didn't go to the ground.

A.) I dare you to find that in the rule book. I remember when Pereira did his job of trying to justify the call LIKE HE ALWAYS does but never mentioned the text of the rule or where it could be found, nor did he ever answer anyone's inquiry about it.

Jim Daopoulos (former NFL Supervisor of Officials) did however respond to fans asking about that play and said he would have called it holding has he been working that game and saw what we see in these pictures, regardless of what Pereira said. He did say holding is not supposed to be called just for a double team block in close line play. But a double team block in the open field is the furthest thing from "close line play" and that rule only says that the double team block is not automatically holding, it doesn't say that if one or both of the players are grabbing jersey it is not holding.

Here is his explanation (pieces together from Tweets)...


OK, let's talk about this play and thank you for the pic of the actual hold. The rule book states that holding will not be called if it is part of a double team block (in close line play). Mechanically the officiating dept. has expanded that to include kick plays. Now I would like to say that this action should have been called on Sunday, but the officials are looking for the defensive player to be taken to the ground and if he is not taken down they normally will not throw a flag. This action appears egregious and with the effect it had on the play and should have been called. I realize I have gone back and forth on this but to watch this on the field in real time, as the official does, it looks like a double team without a takedown and not a foul.... I think as an official I would have called holding for that action on the kick-off. It was so egregious that I was somewhat.. surprised that no one picked it up. As I mentioned earlier, there would be many explanations why it was not called, be the NFL, however, if it were called...no one would have questioned the officials decision. Kind of a roundabout answer but its holding!

B.) If you think Ravens, or any other team's players for that matter, would even know of this rule you speak of (if it existed) they would attempt to do this on each and every kickoff of every game, ALWAYS. There is zero chance they were holding him up off the ground to avoid a penalty.
Originally posted by Ronnie49Lott:
Refs should let the teams know how the game will be called beforehand so the teams don't have to waste drives finding out.

That is nonsense too. They should call every game the same way.
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Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
I don't know about 23% of you.


This LOL
i much rather see those flags tucked away in the ref's pockets than costing us another game....
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by WINiner:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by jimrat:
These no calls cost us the Super Bowl last year............

Yep.

Do you people that like to use the phrase "let guys play" like when they let guys play like this?





I know someone that didn't...


That is NOT a hold by rule. On a return the only way it's a hold is if the player being blocked goes to the ground. That's why they kept lifting him up off the ground on that play, as you can see in the provided picture, to ensure he didn't go to the ground.

A.) I dare you to find that in the rule book. I remember when Pereira did his job of trying to justify the call LIKE HE ALWAYS does but never mentioned the text of the rule or where it could be found, nor did he ever answer anyone's inquiry about it.

Jim Daopoulos (former NFL Supervisor of Officials) did however respond to fans asking about that play and said he would have called it holding has he been working that game and saw what we see in these pictures, regardless of what Pereira said. He did say holding is not supposed to be called just for a double team block in close line play. But a double team block in the open field is the furthest thing from "close line play" and that rule only says that the double team block is not automatically holding, it doesn't say that if one or both of the players are grabbing jersey it is not holding.

Here is his explanation (pieces together from Tweets)...


OK, let's talk about this play and thank you for the pic of the actual hold. The rule book states that holding will not be called if it is part of a double team block (in close line play). Mechanically the officiating dept. has expanded that to include kick plays. Now I would like to say that this action should have been called on Sunday, but the officials are looking for the defensive player to be taken to the ground and if he is not taken down they normally will not throw a flag. This action appears egregious and with the effect it had on the play and should have been called. I realize I have gone back and forth on this but to watch this on the field in real time, as the official does, it looks like a double team without a takedown and not a foul.... I think as an official I would have called holding for that action on the kick-off. It was so egregious that I was somewhat.. surprised that no one picked it up. As I mentioned earlier, there would be many explanations why it was not called, be the NFL, however, if it were called...no one would have questioned the officials decision. Kind of a roundabout answer but its holding!

B.) If you think Ravens, or any other team's players for that matter, would even know of this rule you speak of (if it existed) they would attempt to do this on each and every kickoff of every game, ALWAYS. There is zero chance they were holding him up off the ground to avoid a penalty.

Cary Williams pushed a ref.



Crabtree blatant helmet-to-helmet.



These calls cost us a Super Bowl.