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FANGIO COMES THROUGH IN THE CLUTCH!

Originally posted by ninerhippy:
Im tired of the complete stubbornness of this coaching staff. you can not get consistent pressure on the QB rushing just 4, especially in a 3-4, not in the modern NFL. In the NFCCG this dude waited until the game was on the line to A-gap blitz and SURPRISE SURPRISE, matt ryan fumbles the snap and we win. Tonight its the same story, we wait until the game is on the line to be aggresive. this staff never learns, THIS IS NOT f**kING STANFORD, PLEASE LEARN HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL IN THE 21ST CENTURY, ENOUGH WITH THE JUMBO HORSEs**t, JUMBO PLAY ACTION, INSIDE HANDOFFS TO WIDEOUTS, LINING FULLBACKS OUT WIDE

WTF IS WRONG WITH THESES DUDES?? we gashed the absolut s**t outta the atl d on the ground and yet we didnt commit to the run until the 4th?

Agreed. Roman and Fangio both definitely have some very potato play calling sometimes.
Originally posted by buck:
As of this morning, after 15 games, the 49ers are ranked:

Third in scoring defense (Points per game)

Third in total defense (Yards per game)

Fourth in passing defense (Yards per game)

Fifth in rushing defense (Yards per game)

Just think how good our defense would be if Fangio knew what he was doing.

This one had me rolling. I think that may have been the best we have done across the board since he's been here.
Fangio didn't come through in the clutch at all. Bowman and Brock saved his ass. They didn't get pressure against Ryan (again) and he refused to send any extra rushers. Stubborn.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
This one had me rolling. I think that may have been the best we have done across the board since he's been here.

Fangio has 6 maybe 7 all pros lining up for him. He uses them well, he could use them better. He could also integrate his talent on the bench better.We have no pass rush in his base defense. he needs to fabricate a pass rush to contend in the playoffs.
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
This one had me rolling. I think that may have been the best we have done across the board since he's been here.

Fangio has 6 maybe 7 all pros lining up for him. He uses them well, he could use them better. He could also integrate his talent on the bench better.We have no pass rush in his base defense. he needs to fabricate a pass rush to contend in the playoffs.

This was going to be my next post. It would be nice if Fangio mixed in a little Dick LeBeau or even Rex Ryan (see Baltimore's defense from 2006 to 2008) into his 3-4. The creativity is lacking. Relying on a 3 or 4 man rush is not only playing it conservative, it also relies on the amazing abilities of our D-line and Aldon Smith. While they are elite, it's crazy to expect them to be able to destroy offensive lines every single time. Against QBs like Russell Wilson, I wouldn't go as hard because I'd want to keep him in the pocket. But the Tom Brady's, Matt Ryans, Peyton Mannings of the world (and yes, Carson Palmers for next Sunday), you create havoc.
Fangio's "creative" ideas on generating pass rush is moving Aldon inside and Justin outside and running some stunts up front. If they got home to the QB it's fine, but they didn't generate any pressure on Ryan at all in the last two games against Atlanta and he refused to send any pressure.

He needs to be more aggressive. His gameplan last night was a joke.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
This one had me rolling. I think that may have been the best we have done across the board since he's been here.

Fangio has 6 maybe 7 all pros lining up for him. He uses them well, he could use them better. He could also integrate his talent on the bench better.We have no pass rush in his base defense. he needs to fabricate a pass rush to contend in the playoffs.

This was going to be my next post. It would be nice if Fangio mixed in a little Dick LeBeau or even Rex Ryan (see Baltimore's defense from 2006 to 2008) into his 3-4. The creativity is lacking. Relying on a 3 or 4 man rush is not only playing it conservative, it also relies on the amazing abilities of our D-line and Aldon Smith. While they are elite, it's crazy to expect them to be able to destroy offensive lines every single time. Against QBs like Russell Wilson, I wouldn't go as hard because I'd want to keep him in the pocket. But the Tom Brady's, Matt Ryans, Peyton Mannings of the world (and yes, Carson Palmers for next Sunday), you create havoc.

So Nolan leaves SF and suddenly is no longer Vanilla Mike. He devises an exotic blitz scheme and disguise-defense with 7 rookies. On offense, the coaches devise a brilliant scheme by moving the TE's and WR's closer to the tackles and chip the DE/OLB's "before" they release out in patterns. And us? Our claim to fame is Brock jumping a route (finally) and Roman calling a quick WR screen and CK and Gore overruling Roman for the final TD at Candlestick Park. I can't wait to hear all the Roman-Fangioexcuses this week but CLEARLY, they damn near cost us another critical game.

I have said all along, COACHING is going to be the difference in us making it to and winning a Superbowl. We have PLENTY of talent.
Originally posted by ginseng1000:
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by Liono:
That was pure Candlestick Magic! Wow! It wouldn't have even been realistic fiction.

I also wonder about our game plan here. Matt Ryan is very good, but come on, how hard is it to stop Roddy freaking White? The Falcons have no run game and a s**t offensive line, and Ryan throws for 350 and has only 9 incomplete passes the entire game. Meanwhile, Kap can't even crack 200 against a bunch of rookies, with a MUCH better recieving corp.

kap had a more efficient game than ryan. he had a better YPA, much more rushing yards and didn't turn the ball over. hilarious that people still punish kap for the success of our running game

Matt Ryan 37/48 348 yards 2 TD 2 INT
Kap 13/21 197 yards 1TD, 6 rushes 51yards, 1 rush TD, 0 INT

I think Kap has the better all around numbers. Ryan had more than 2x the attempts, as the above post mentioned less YPA too. Kap's 21 attemps for 197 is over 9 yards per attempt.

This. I can't stand how people judge QB's by total passing yards when they have far less attempts.

For the record:
Kaep's QBR: 108.6
Ryan's QBR: 93.1

Enough said...
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by ElephantHaley:
Originally posted by ninerhippy:
Im tired of the complete stubbornness of this coaching staff. you can not get consistent pressure on the QB rushing just 4, especially in a 3-4, not in the modern NFL. In the NFCCG this dude waited until the game was on the line to A-gap blitz and SURPRISE SURPRISE, matt ryan fumbles the snap and we win. Tonight its the same story, we wait until the game is on the line to be aggresive. this staff never learns, THIS IS NOT f**kING STANFORD, PLEASE LEARN HOW TO PLAY FOOTBALL IN THE 21ST CENTURY, ENOUGH WITH THE JUMBO HORSEs**t, JUMBO PLAY ACTION, INSIDE HANDOFFS TO WIDEOUTS, LINING FULLBACKS OUT WIDE

WTF IS WRONG WITH THESES DUDES?? we gashed the absolut s**t outta the atl d on the ground and yet we didnt commit to the run until the 4th?

Agree with you to the max. That jumbo mumbo crap don't work and that soft coverage 3 pass rush crap don't work either. rush 5 and cover 6 man to man.


Rushing three players in the NFL requires a brain tumor. There is no excuse for it. It is a defense that consistently fails. We gave up the big touchdown pass with it this week, but we have given up huge plays just as bad in the past. The Saints had a 3rd and 14, we rushed three, and then got a first down, then they scored and barely hung on for the win. Only a brain tumor can explain this tactic.

On the other hand, we picked of Brees twice in the 2011 playoff game when we rushed 3...
Originally posted by LanceQ:
Originally posted by NCommand:
That was ALL Brock (and Bowman)...Brock actually read the play and aggressively attacked it vs. standing back all game long like the rest of our DB's. Entire secondary got ABUSED with clean free releases. Pathetic. If pressure isn't getting there PLAY PHYSICAL AND TIGHT!

You said it. This was not a clean game by us tonight. Glad that we won, but disappointed on the overall performance. We will be one and done if we pull the same garbage in the playoffs.

I love brock :)
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i just wish he would use our all pro linebackers more than just having them set around playing checkers in pass coverage. it was a big factor in the super bowl and it nearly cost us last night in my opinion
Originally posted by Black24Razor:
After the onside kick, I told my kids to cancel Christmas...LOL..
I almost spit out my orange juice reading this. lol
Originally posted by buck:
As of this morning, after 15 games, the 49ers are ranked:

Third in scoring defense (Points per game)

Third in total defense (Yards per game)

Fourth in passing defense (Yards per game)

Fifth in rushing defense (Yards per game)

Just think how good our defense would be if Fangio knew what he was doing.

doesn't apply here.

he had a bad defensive game he can be criticized for it. usually he makes adjustments but he didn't. he stayed in zone when he should have just brought pressure against a qb who folds against it. instead of off coverage
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Originally posted by jonesadrian:
Originally posted by buck:
As of this morning, after 15 games, the 49ers are ranked:

Third in scoring defense (Points per game)

Third in total defense (Yards per game)

Fourth in passing defense (Yards per game)

Fifth in rushing defense (Yards per game)

Just think how good our defense would be if Fangio knew what he was doing.

doesn't apply here.

he had a bad defensive game he can be criticized for it. usually he makes adjustments but he didn't. he stayed in zone when he should have just brought pressure against a qb who folds against it. instead of off coverage

The comments in this thread are not limited to last night's game.

Enough of the comments were on the overall work of Fangio that I felt, and still feel, that my post does apply here.

But, hey that is just my point of view.
We can't afford to have a crap first half on offense against Seattle or Philly and especially Denver.