Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Originally posted by cciowa:
wow,, you have to have a better understanding of the team to do this in my opinion. the team lived before 1980 and you need to include great players and hall of fame guys like jimmy johnson, dave wilcox, forest blue as the best center ever. how can you exclude gene washington,, how can you exclude perhaps the best pass rusher in our history in cedrick hardman? to have deion sanders on that list with no mention to jimmy johnson is a insult in my opinion. sure justin smith is good but come on,, hardman, fred dean, charley kruger. sheesh. john brodie must be in that list and so does ted kwalik
Thanks, Jimmy Johnson was so good NFL teams stopped throwing to his side for years. He played on some bad teams and there was no ESPN or internet so except in SF his name was not mentioned too much. Another 49er great who could play today was Bob St.Clair, offensive tackle, 6'9" around 270. In 10-20 years the next generation of fans will ask, "Who was Joe Montana?"
I tried to preface the arguments I was making by saying I only had knowledge of the team from the 80s on. I have watched my fair share of NFL Films, but I still didn't have enough to put some of the older guys in their proper place so I am really glad you guys have chimed in. St. Clair, Johnson, Kwalik, etc., all belong on this list.
As for the next generation forgetting Montana, I disagree. Sure, they won't have the first hand knowledge of him, but he is still a National benchmark for the most important position in sports. The great skill guys will fade slower. RIce, Montana, Young, they all stick in our memories for the plays that STILL get air time on ESPN. It's the Offensive and Defensive linemen that are marginalized the quickest, and it's the great players for horrible teams that never get their due.