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Article: The 49ers need Kaepernick to play like Smith on Sunday

I knew this thread would be filled with nonsense as soon as I read the title. I wasn't disappointed.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Here is Alex Smith's stats vs Seahawks last year


Alex Smith 14/23 140yds, 1 TD, 1 INT


Kaep produces a statline like that, we will get blown out!

/thread

Or Kaep could do one of his brilliant 6 completion games. 1.5 per quarter. Or his marvelous 40 yards net passing. 10 per quarter. He's actually had games like that this year. Would that be better for you?.....

You know Alex would have worse stats than that if he played with Anquan "you must have pin point accuracy to throw to me" Boldin, Kyle "no longer on the team" Williams, and Jon "I'm worse than AJ Jenkins" Baldwin!

I've never seen Alex complete 6 passes or have a 40 yard game. Never.

I blame it on Roman.
I don't agree with the way the article is written. Alex faced a completely different Seahawks team in '11 and our home game last year. I would not want Kap to mimic Smith in any way shape or form.

What I do believe is the coaching staff needs to make sure we layer his progressions and give him an outlet on almost every drop back. Seattle is going to give us the short stuff in the middle and THAT is what Kap will have to do, is take the short yardage to soften up that D. I think utilizing McDonald will be key in this game if we give him the opportunities. My only problem with Kap is him looking too far down field for the big play on every drop back. He needs to purposely look for the short throws to show the D that HE will take what is given. This will also help with getting the ball out quickly and frustrate that D with long clock chewing drives. Keep our defense fresh and pound the ball down their throats and punch them in the mouth in the 2nd half.

To say we want Kap to play like Smith makes me SMDH........
Originally posted by verb1der:
lolll, um no.


Alex Smith just lost 3 straight.

Excuses in 3...2...1..

The Chiefs lost three straight (I didn't see Alex out there playing Defense). Two of which were against the best team in the NFL. Also in two of those games Alex did more than enough for his team to win, playing very good football going down the field to tie or take the lead on long scoring drives late in the game. They were even up 21-7 on the Broncos last week. What is it that "he" lost exactly?
Totally disagree. Smith faced a very raw Russell Wilson. You keep playing safe and not make any big plays, let me tell you, Russell Wilson WILL make a few big plays.


What we need to win is Frank Gore being Frank Gore in those past wins vs SEA.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by verb1der:
lolll, um no.


Alex Smith just lost 3 straight.

Excuses in 3...2...1..

The Chiefs lost three straight (I didn't see Alex out there playing Defense). Two of which were against the best team in the NFL. Also in two of those games Alex did more than enough for his team to win, playing very good football going down the field to tie or take the lead on long scoring drives late in the game. They were even up 21-7 on the Broncos last week. What is it that "he" lost exactly?

please don't

hes got to play a little bit like smith in the game where we beat them last season in terms of being prepared, patient and willing to take the check downs. if theres plays like the one in washington where he does not see the rb in the flat wide open and tosses it into double coverage, we're going to be in trouble.
Originally posted by 49Hounds:
^^^^^ This is why I love coming to this message board, thanks sincalfaithful.

You love coming here because of posts when people compile a list of stats that are meaningless without context? Congratulations, you sure found the right place!
Originally posted by Joecool:
Totally disagree. Smith faced a very raw Russell Wilson. You keep playing safe and not make any big plays, let me tell you, Russell Wilson WILL make a few big plays.


What we need to win is Frank Gore being Frank Gore in those past wins vs SEA.

That Russell Wilson is a great Safety, or is he a Cornerback? No? OLB then?

I'm confused, when did any QB ever face another QB in a game?
[ Edited by Gavintech on Dec 5, 2013 at 1:50 PM ]
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by verb1der:
lolll, um no.


Alex Smith just lost 3 straight.

Excuses in 3...2...1..

The Chiefs lost three straight (I didn't see Alex out there playing Defense). Two of which were against the best team in the NFL. Also in two of those games Alex did more than enough for his team to win, playing very good football going down the field to tie or take the lead on long scoring drives late in the game. They were even up 21-7 on the Broncos last week. What is it that "he" lost exactly?

With this logic one could argue that Alex Smith had nothing to do with their 9 straight wins. If the defense is fully responsible for their losses, then they should also be fully responsible for their wins...right? Or are we being totally biased here.

W/L's always falls on the QBs shoulders.
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by verb1der:
lolll, um no.


Alex Smith just lost 3 straight.

Excuses in 3...2...1..

The Chiefs lost three straight (I didn't see Alex out there playing Defense). Two of which were against the best team in the NFL. Also in two of those games Alex did more than enough for his team to win, playing very good football going down the field to tie or take the lead on long scoring drives late in the game. They were even up 21-7 on the Broncos last week. What is it that "he" lost exactly?

With this logic one could argue that Alex Smith had nothing to do with their 9 straight wins. If the defense is fully responsible for their losses, then they should also be fully responsible for their wins...right? Or are we being totally biased here.

W/L's always falls on the QBs shoulders.

this thread is not about Alex's performance as a Chief. there's already a thread for that.
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by verb1der:
lolll, um no.


Alex Smith just lost 3 straight.

Excuses in 3...2...1..

The Chiefs lost three straight (I didn't see Alex out there playing Defense). Two of which were against the best team in the NFL. Also in two of those games Alex did more than enough for his team to win, playing very good football going down the field to tie or take the lead on long scoring drives late in the game. They were even up 21-7 on the Broncos last week. What is it that "he" lost exactly?

With this logic one could argue that Alex Smith had nothing to do with their 9 straight wins. If the defense is fully responsible for their losses, then they should also be fully responsible for their wins...right? Or are we being totally biased here.

W/L's always falls on the QBs shoulders.

agree with this, that stat along with interceptions, whether they the qb fault or not, always stick with them
Originally posted by verb1der:
With this logic one could argue that Alex Smith had nothing to do with their 9 straight wins. If the defense is fully responsible for their losses, then they should also be fully responsible for their wins...right? Or are we being totally biased here.

W/L's always falls on the QBs shoulders.

No it couldn't be argued. Because that is not what I am saying at all. All I'm saying is it is stupid to say a QB won or lost a game. This is football, the ultimate team sport. QB may be the most important position on the team but they sure as heck don't won or lose games on their own.

QBs are not boxers, golfers, or tennis players. They don't play against another one person that plays the same position. They aren't even starting pitchers! Football teams play against football teams. The team with the best QB doesn't always win. The team who's QB plays the best doesn't alwasy win. It is asinine the way so many people say "__insert blank QB here__ is 1-3 against __insert blank QB here__." It makes zero sense in the real world.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Totally disagree. Smith faced a very raw Russell Wilson. You keep playing safe and not make any big plays, let me tell you, Russell Wilson WILL make a few big plays.


What we need to win is Frank Gore being Frank Gore in those past wins vs SEA.

That Russell Wilson is a great Safety, or is he a Cornerback? No? OLB then?

I'm confused, when did any QB ever face another QB in a game?

I never said that. Point is that Wilson gets big plays every game. He will most likely do it to our defense also. So, to help our defense who is facing a very good QB, our offense will need Frank Gore to do what he does so we push SEA's defense to change what they do so we can also get some big plays.

When Smith played, Gore would gash SEA AND SEA didn't have a QB that played at a high level.
Originally posted by crabman82:
agree with this, that stat along with interceptions, whether they the qb fault or not, always stick with them

Check NFL.com for your favorite QB's W/L record. I guarantee you won't find it because it doesn't exist. There is a reason for this. A very good reason.