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Article: The 49ers need Kaepernick to play like Smith on Sunday

Naw I don't want him playing like captain checkdown
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Kaepernick needs to play like he's capable of, he needs to put together a complete game, trust his receivers, trust his own instincts, if he see's an opening, he needs to take off and run, he needs to play smart football and be himself out there.

I agree. While I agree with an article to an extent, I think we need to take it a step further.

CK needs to play like Alex only to the extent of not making mistakes that help our opponent beat us, managing the game, playing good situational football, and taking what the defense gives. Not making mistake is not limited to turnovers -- it can also include bad time management, taking huge losses running backwards trying to do to much/not throwing the ball away, or missing wide open receivers for plays.

If the deep pass isn't there, don't force the ball into double and triple coverage like he has the tendency to do for much of the season.

If the defense has clamped down on us early, Kaep needs to bide his time, be patient and eventually, that play will open up and it will be like heaven just opened up with angels singing -- and THAT will be his moment -- he can let it fly and we can start to run away with it. Once they start to respect us deep, the running lanes for him will open up too.

Kaep plays a clean game, and uses his freakish ability to make plays in the chances provided? We win this thing.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on Dec 5, 2013 at 11:34 AM ]
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Here is Alex Smith's stats vs Seahawks last year


Alex Smith 14/23 140yds, 1 TD, 1 INT


Kaep produces a statline like that, we will get blown out!

/thread

What was Drew Brees' stat line on Monday again? 24/38 for 147 yards, 1 TD, and 1 lost fumble?

I didn't think you were normally like this, verb? I feel like you're trying crazy hard to pick a fight, brother! I'm sure you watched the game and know why the stat line was like that. An INT on a miscommunication, but other than that, a slug-fest, defensive, field-position battle game that had to be managed and eventually we broke free with the game winning TD drive.

Of course, we'd all love to see a better statistical performance. We'd be elated to have a big statistical output WITH a win. But if CK has a similar game and we win, I will be ecstatic, because that still means he did what was necessary to help his team win. The Seahawks are the #1 defense in the league right now, last year they were #4. When you're playing a team like that, low yardage totals -- ESPECIALLY when taken into context with the game -- shouldn't come as a shock or be looked at as "horrible".

Sorry I'm not trying to pick a fight. But the article is totally another Alex vs Kaep discussion, which could've been posted in the Kaepernick thread. But I get what you're saying though, this is going to be a game where both teams try to suffocate eachother so pedestrian statistics are expected.

The article should focus more about "Kaep being a game manager for this game", instead of saying "he should play like Alex Smith". But I get why the OP leaned towards a bold subject title, because more people will bite.

Personally, I hope Kaep explodes and kills the Seahawks.
[ Edited by verb1der on Dec 5, 2013 at 11:42 AM ]
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Here is Alex Smith's stats vs Seahawks last year


Alex Smith 14/23 140yds, 1 TD, 1 INT


Kaep produces a statline like that, we will get blown out!

/thread

What was Drew Brees' stat line on Monday again? 24/38 for 147 yards, 1 TD, and 1 lost fumble?

I didn't think you were normally like this, verb? I feel like you're trying crazy hard to pick a fight, brother! I'm sure you watched the game and know why the stat line was like that. An INT on a miscommunication, but other than that, a slug-fest, defensive, field-position battle game that had to be managed and eventually we broke free with the game winning TD drive.

Of course, we'd all love to see a better statistical performance. We'd be elated to have a big statistical output WITH a win. But if CK has a similar game and we win, I will be ecstatic, because that still means he did what was necessary to help his team win. The Seahawks are the #1 defense in the league right now, last year they were #4. When you're playing a team like that, low yardage totals -- ESPECIALLY when taken into context with the game -- shouldn't come as a shock or be looked at as "horrible".

Sorry I'm not trying to pick a fight. But the article is totally another Alex vs Kaep discussion, which could've been posted in the Kaepernick thread. But I get what you're saying though, this is going to be a game where both teams try to suffocate eachother so pedestrian statistics are expected.

The article should focus more about "Kaep being a game manager for this game", instead of saying "he should play like Alex Smith". But I get why the OP leaned towards a bold subject title, because more people will bite.

Personally, I hope Kaep explodes and kills the Seahawks.

I noticed this during the touchderception game. A Rod realized that he had to get rid of the ball quickly with the sack a thon going on up there so he checked down took the underneaths and short passed his way methodically down the field for what I believe was all or the majority of his scoring drives. I remember saying to myself play like Alex Smith and he did and they scored on four scoring drives in what should have been a 12-7 win but then the touchderception happened.
So Kap needs to play like Smith? I'm going to assume that we're looking at the 3 straight victories over Seattle

2011 Game 1

First downs: 12 with 4 passing, 4 running, 4 from penalties
3rd down efficiency: 1/12 or 8.75 %
YPC: 2.7
YPP: 6.2
Total Yards: 209
Redzone efficiency: 1/5 or 20%

2011 Game 2

First Downs: 21 with 8 passing 10 rushing 3 from penalties
3rd down efficiency: 3/14 or 21%
YPC: 4.5
YPP: 6.2
Total Yards: 349
Redzone Efficiency: 1/2

2012 Game 1

First Downs: 18 with 9 passing 8 rushing 1 from a penalty
3rd down efficiency: 3/11 or 27%
YPC: 5.5
YPP: 6.0
Total Yards: 313
Redzone Efficiency: 1/4 or 25% with 1 INT


If the offense puts up numbers similar to any one of these three games we're gonna get our ass kicked again. In our 3 wins over Seattle since 2011 our offense has looked pathetic with the lone bright spot being our running game in the last 2 victories. The numbers on 3rd down are downright atrocious as well as red zone efficiency. So I'm going to go on a limb and say that the offense will need to do a tad better than 19% on 3rd down and better than 27% in the redzone.
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Here is Alex Smith's stats vs Seahawks last year


Alex Smith 14/23 140yds, 1 TD, 1 INT


Kaep produces a statline like that, we will get blown out!

/thread

What was Drew Brees' stat line on Monday again? 24/38 for 147 yards, 1 TD, and 1 lost fumble?

I didn't think you were normally like this, verb? I feel like you're trying crazy hard to pick a fight, brother! I'm sure you watched the game and know why the stat line was like that. An INT on a miscommunication, but other than that, a slug-fest, defensive, field-position battle game that had to be managed and eventually we broke free with the game winning TD drive.

Of course, we'd all love to see a better statistical performance. We'd be elated to have a big statistical output WITH a win. But if CK has a similar game and we win, I will be ecstatic, because that still means he did what was necessary to help his team win. The Seahawks are the #1 defense in the league right now, last year they were #4. When you're playing a team like that, low yardage totals -- ESPECIALLY when taken into context with the game -- shouldn't come as a shock or be looked at as "horrible".

Sorry I'm not trying to pick a fight. But the article is totally another Alex vs Kaep discussion, which could've been posted in the Kaepernick thread. But I get what you're saying though, this is going to be a game where both teams try to suffocate eachother so pedestrian statistics are expected.

The article should focus more about "Kaep being a game manager for this game", instead of saying "he should play like Alex Smith". But I get why the OP leaned towards a bold subject title, because more people will bite.

Personally, I hope Kaep explodes and kills the Seahawks.

Yeah I know exactly what you mean there. I, too, hope for a big, BIG game so we can shut up all the ridiculous Seahawks fans for at least a week.
Kaep needs to do his thing and not listen to fans telling him how to play foosball.
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
So Kap needs to play like Smith? I'm going to assume that we're looking at the 3 straight victories over Seattle

2011 Game 1

First downs: 12 with 4 passing, 4 running, 4 from penalties
3rd down efficiency: 1/12 or 8.75 %
YPC: 2.7
YPP: 6.2
Total Yards: 209
Redzone efficiency: 1/5 or 20%

2011 Game 2

First Downs: 21 with 8 passing 10 rushing 3 from penalties
3rd down efficiency: 3/14 or 21%
YPC: 4.5
YPP: 6.2
Total Yards: 349
Redzone Efficiency: 1/2

2012 Game 1

First Downs: 18 with 9 passing 8 rushing 1 from a penalty
3rd down efficiency: 3/11 or 27%
YPC: 5.5
YPP: 6.0
Total Yards: 313
Redzone Efficiency: 1/4 or 25% with 1 INT


If the offense puts up numbers similar to any one of these three games we're gonna get our ass kicked again. In our 3 wins over Seattle since 2011 our offense has looked pathetic with the lone bright spot being our running game in the last 2 victories. The numbers on 3rd down are downright atrocious as well as red zone efficiency. So I'm going to go on a limb and say that the offense will need to do a tad better than 19% on 3rd down and better than 27% in the redzone.

^^^^^ This is why I love coming to this message board, thanks sincalfaithful.
Calculated risks with no mistakes. No throwing across the body to the opposite side of the field throws which is how Kaepernick got picked off to start the Green Bay playoff game last year, and how Seattle took an INT to the house. We may not want to see a lot of short passes underneath, but I think the key to this game will be how our second and third receiving options perform. If they do well, Seattle will have to respect the pass, so they won't be able to load up the box. Then we can get our running game going.

If we start off running Gore up the middle without establishing the pass, I don't like our chances. Yet trying to establish the pass against one of the best secondaries in the NFL is not going to be easy. We're going to need some crazy routes to throw Seattle off-balance. If Kaepernick sees an opening, he needs to hit it and not look back. This is a huge statement game. If we can't even beat Seattle in our own house, how will we go up there and beat them with the 12th Retard at their side?
Originally posted by verb1der:
Here is Alex Smith's stats vs Seahawks last year


Alex Smith 14/23 140yds, 1 TD, 1 INT


Kaep produces a statline like that, we will get blown out!

/thread

Or Kaep could do one of his brilliant 6 completion games. 1.5 per quarter. Or his marvelous 40 yards net passing. 10 per quarter. He's actually had games like that this year. Would that be better for you?.....
Interesting article. Please read the following article as well. Sorry, if already posted in another thread.

Kap is a lot to be blamed for our offensive woes this season. His strength is downfield passes, but with or without his receivers, you can't rely on something like that on a consistent basis, you need an overall strong quarterbacking skills, which he doesn't have, at this point. May never have.

Don't get me wrong, I really believe that Roman is not cut-out for the pro game. He was a running game coordinator at Stanford. NFL is a passing league. Receivers being injured most of this season hurts too, but Kap simply doesn't have an overall strong quarterbacking skills at this time. He spent last offseason bulking-up, instead of getting better at being QB.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/greg-cosell-film-review-robert-griffin-iii-still-003900137--nfl.html
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Here is Alex Smith's stats vs Seahawks last year


Alex Smith 14/23 140yds, 1 TD, 1 INT


Kaep produces a statline like that, we will get blown out!

/thread

Or Kaep could do one of his brilliant 6 completion games. 1.5 per quarter. Or his marvelous 40 yards net passing. 10 per quarter. He's actually had games like that this year. Would that be better for you?.....

You know Alex would have worse stats than that if he played with Anquan "you must have pin point accuracy to throw to me" Boldin, Kyle "no longer on the team" Williams, and Jon "I'm worse than AJ Jenkins" Baldwin!
Originally posted by verb1der:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by verb1der:
Here is Alex Smith's stats vs Seahawks last year


Alex Smith 14/23 140yds, 1 TD, 1 INT


Kaep produces a statline like that, we will get blown out!

/thread

Or Kaep could do one of his brilliant 6 completion games. 1.5 per quarter. Or his marvelous 40 yards net passing. 10 per quarter. He's actually had games like that this year. Would that be better for you?.....

You know Alex would have worse stats than that if he played with Anquan "you must have pin point accuracy to throw to me" Boldin, Kyle "no longer on the team" Williams, and Jon "I'm worse than AJ Jenkins" Baldwin!

I've never seen Alex complete 6 passes or have a 40 yard game. Never.
Originally posted by 49Hounds:
Originally posted by sincalfaithful:
So Kap needs to play like Smith? I'm going to assume that we're looking at the 3 straight victories over Seattle

2011 Game 1

First downs: 12 with 4 passing, 4 running, 4 from penalties
3rd down efficiency: 1/12 or 8.75 %
YPC: 2.7
YPP: 6.2
Total Yards: 209
Redzone efficiency: 1/5 or 20%

2011 Game 2

First Downs: 21 with 8 passing 10 rushing 3 from penalties
3rd down efficiency: 3/14 or 21%
YPC: 4.5
YPP: 6.2
Total Yards: 349
Redzone Efficiency: 1/2

2012 Game 1

First Downs: 18 with 9 passing 8 rushing 1 from a penalty
3rd down efficiency: 3/11 or 27%
YPC: 5.5
YPP: 6.0
Total Yards: 313
Redzone Efficiency: 1/4 or 25% with 1 INT


If the offense puts up numbers similar to any one of these three games we're gonna get our ass kicked again. In our 3 wins over Seattle since 2011 our offense has looked pathetic with the lone bright spot being our running game in the last 2 victories. The numbers on 3rd down are downright atrocious as well as red zone efficiency. So I'm going to go on a limb and say that the offense will need to do a tad better than 19% on 3rd down and better than 27% in the redzone.

^^^^^ This is why I love coming to this message board, thanks sincalfaithful.

In before someone posts the stats for the game vs. Carolina. At home.
Originally posted by verb1der:
Here is Alex Smith's stats vs Seahawks last year


Alex Smith 14/23 140yds, 1 TD, 1 INT


Kaep produces a statline like that, we will get blown out!

/thread

Missing the most important stat--win.

I disagree with the article but understand what the point is...Smith gave the 9ers a chance to win by not making mistakes and playing conservatively, Kaepernick has not been able to play up to his usual game against them.

My disagreement results from: A) Playing in Seattle vs SF as has been mentioned, and B) The 9ers did not trade Smith and keep Kaepernick so that they could play safe and conservatively. Keepernick needs to create more opportunities with his legs and strong arm to dismantle the Seattle D. Our D and STs have to give the team an even playing field. If you are waiting for CK to play like Smith you may have to wait for several years for him to develop patience and vision under pressure...something Smith improved on over the years. Not necessary.