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Holding back plays

Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
Originally posted by Empire49:
Originally posted by 49erfeeeever808:
we were all in on the read option working as the offensive base. once that failed, they needed to effectively restart training camp during the season.

Uhh, no. They abandoned the read option before the season even started. They don't allow Kap to run!

we don't allow him to throw either (close to, if not, last in attempts i believe). so he's on the field for nothing?



we ran the read option more vs. GB and in seattle, then started getting run heavy after the colts game......

They've run the read option sparingly, but never were they "all in" with it this season. It is not the primary or base offense and hasn't been for one single game this year.

They've spent the entire season trying to establish Kap as a pocket Passer from game one.
Originally posted by Empire49:
They've run the read option sparingly, but never were they "all in" with it this season. It is not the primary or base offense and hasn't been for one single game this year.

They've spent the entire season trying to establish Kap as a pocket Passer from game one.

On that note, why does it seem like Seattle can run it with such ease... everyone seems to have figured it out with us but not Seattle... just asking.
Originally posted by SFVNiner:
Originally posted by Empire49:
They've run the read option sparingly, but never were they "all in" with it this season. It is not the primary or base offense and hasn't been for one single game this year.

They've spent the entire season trying to establish Kap as a pocket Passer from game one.

On that note, why does it seem like Seattle can run it with such ease... everyone seems to have figured it out with us but not Seattle... just asking.

They run it more often. We don't run it enough to even know if it still works. Lol
Originally posted by Empire49:
Originally posted by SFVNiner:
Originally posted by Empire49:
They've run the read option sparingly, but never were they "all in" with it this season. It is not the primary or base offense and hasn't been for one single game this year.

They've spent the entire season trying to establish Kap as a pocket Passer from game one.

On that note, why does it seem like Seattle can run it with such ease... everyone seems to have figured it out with us but not Seattle... just asking.

They run it more often. We don't run it enough to even know if it still works. Lol
A little frustrating.. was such a nice weapon to have in the arsenal... and its as if the entire league got together and said... "OK we need to do something about this this formation and play..." and completely forgot about Seattle.

Its going to drive me nuts if we see that little guy just take-off on us for 20+ yards on a 3rd 'n long.
Originally posted by wysiwyg:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG07WSu7Q9w

lol, wtf
Originally posted by SFVNiner:
Originally posted by Empire49:
Originally posted by SFVNiner:
Originally posted by Empire49:
They've run the read option sparingly, but never were they "all in" with it this season. It is not the primary or base offense and hasn't been for one single game this year.

They've spent the entire season trying to establish Kap as a pocket Passer from game one.

On that note, why does it seem like Seattle can run it with such ease... everyone seems to have figured it out with us but not Seattle... just asking.

They run it more often. We don't run it enough to even know if it still works. Lol
A little frustrating.. was such a nice weapon to have in the arsenal... and its as if the entire league got together and said... "OK we need to do something about this this formation and play..." and completely forgot about Seattle.

Its going to drive me nuts if we see that little guy just take-off on us for 20+ yards on a 3rd 'n long.

Seattle runs it well and hasn't given up on it. We simply don't do it enough to know whether the league can stop us from doing it or not. It seems the coaches took the fact that the rest of the league spent their offseason preparing for it and tried to turn the tables on them by not running it at all. That worked against Green Bay, as they were 100% committed to stopping the read option so we exploited that by throwing for the whole game. Since then, they haven't given the read option a chance.

It could be because Colt McCoy is our backup QB and they really don't want to get Kap hurt.
[ Edited by Empire49 on Dec 4, 2013 at 2:47 PM ]
Originally posted by Empire49:
Originally posted by SFVNiner:
Originally posted by Empire49:
They've run the read option sparingly, but never were they "all in" with it this season. It is not the primary or base offense and hasn't been for one single game this year.

They've spent the entire season trying to establish Kap as a pocket Passer from game one.

On that note, why does it seem like Seattle can run it with such ease... everyone seems to have figured it out with us but not Seattle... just asking.

They run it more often. We don't run it enough to even know if it still works. Lol

The way they run it is totally different.
Originally posted by Empire49:
Seattle runs it well and hasn't given up on it. We simply don't do it enough to know whether the league can stop us from doing it or not. It seems the coaches took the fact that the rest of the league spent their offseason preparing for it and tried to turn the tables on them by not running it at all. That worked against Green Bay, as they were 100% committed to stopping the read option so we exploited that by throwing for the whole game. Since then, they haven't given the read option a chance.

It could be because Colt McCoy is our backup QB and they really don't want to get Kap hurt.

We are going to worry so much about our starting QB getting hurt that it prevents us from winning games or going to the Super Bowl? If that's true that's poor strategy. This is football! Get out there and win anyway possible!
We aren't holding anything back. We just haven't played well. Hopefully we will continue to get better as we have gotten some of our guys back.
There is a fake field goal or punt coming soon boyzzzzzz
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
We aren't holding anything back. We just haven't played well. Hopefully we will continue to get better as we have gotten some of our guys back.

Agree. We just need to play better, period. Last year was very unique in how we unleashed the Pistol in the post-season. That won't happen again. The passing game has really started to come around the last couple weeks. I don't think it's any coincidence that in Crabtree's 1st game back, Kap had his best game since week 1.
What's a good scheme against a zone?

Not sure if Kaep can have a good day...if we have long developing plays
No one's f**king holding back plays. Stop being so delusional.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
What's a good scheme against a zone?

Not sure if Kaep can have a good day...if we have long developing plays

Well, against the Saints the Seahawks looked like they played a lot of Cover 1 Man. Earl Thomas in deep middle, Chancellor down in the box, the 2 corners on the outside playing man, and the linebackers with zone or man responsibilities.

I found a pretty cool article describing the strengths and weaknesses of the coverage, and how to attack it:


Strengths
- Pressure from a five (5) man rush
- every potential receiver is accounted for (covered)
- defenders have help to the post • excellent versus screens and delays
- C's can play a tight man as they have help from the FS – crowd the receivers on third and five or longer
- excellent versus zone routes
- can take away the outs with an outside technique by the C's
- speed on speed – good blitz coverage

Weaknesses
- Poor run support
- mismatch with the backs versus linebackers
- hard to disguise versus motion
- three deep zones are not covered
- no under cover • crossing routes
- "bunch" and "snug" type sets

How to attack it
- Back routes on the linebackers
- create mismatches with the TE running option ("read") routes
- stay shallow with routes, catch the ball short and run long
- crossing routes ("mesh") with the wide receivers
- TE in the alley or fades to the wide receivers
- running plays
- coverage away from FS by "looking off"

See more at: http://smartfootball.com/passing/attacking-coverages-in-the-passing-game#sthash.mPQDPz2K.dpuf
[ Edited by SofaKing on Dec 4, 2013 at 4:53 PM ]
Holding back plays when you have 4 losses, some close, and are not guaranteed a playoff spot would be sheer idiocy! This isn't preseason. When everything is on the line, and we have looked so mediocre since the Green Bay game, you use everything at your disposal or you are a wallflower at the dance. I can't believe they would be that stupid.