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Can Someone Explain How It Wasn't a Penalty?

The NFL should make the QB's wear florescent pink from the collarbone down to the knees. The pink zone will let the defense will know where they can hit the QB.
Originally posted by KB94605NINERS:
The NFL should make the QB's wear florescent pink from the collarbone down to the knees. The pink zone will let the defense will know where they can hit the QB.

Actually not a horrible idea lol. Maybe not pink but some florescent color. Then make it reviewable. If hands or hit is in the area call a foul and review it.

Sucks it's come to this, but it is what it is.
Originally posted by Jakemall:
Should be based on initial contact..and this pic is not the initial contact.

Agreed.
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by KB94605NINERS:
The NFL should make the QB's wear florescent pink from the collarbone down to the knees. The pink zone will let the defense will know where they can hit the QB.

Actually not a horrible idea lol. Maybe not pink but some florescent color. Then make it reviewable. If hands or hit is in the area call a foul and review it.

Sucks it's come to this, but it is what it is.

Totally...this topic spun off big time today; lots of input but I personally like Eric's take here. The whole point of the rule is to protect a vulnerable (and marketable $) player. This is the same as a defenseless receiver. A QB's eyes are down field while bodies are flying around. But this is the part that needs to be taken into account and that currently, is not (for the big 4):

Eric Allen also went on to say (to paraphrase) the offensive player needs to be taken into account on these judegment calls (if the QB or RB ducks his head, turns his body, etc.) THAT needs to be written into the rule book. He went on to say as long as the defender is targeting the stike zone and is not LAUNCHING himself into the player (a malicious act with the intent to injure) the defensive player should be given the benefit of the doubt here esp. in the case where no helmet-hitting was involved. And there is no doubt Brooks was aiming for (and hit) the strike zone initially and had zero intent to injury.

....you want to see launching of the helmet with the intent to injure? Go rewatch the Superbowl, 2nd to last play, where their DB launched the crown of his helmet up into the face mask of Crabtree, giving him a mild concussion. We all know what happened after that...

He goes onto say that he coached high school, youth football programs (think about this for a second) and in his words, "That was a perfect tackle. We talk about the head behind the bow with the arm in front so that there is no crown-to-facemask tackle. As you notice, his arm was in front. It was a perfect arm tackle. If you're going to penalize him for that, we're in a world of trouble!"
[ Edited by NCommand on Nov 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM ]
Saints fan here. As if you can't already tell from my screen name

I watched the replayed probably a dozen time by now. Initially, I thought it was a bad call. But after a few times in slow motion, I noticed Brooks' right arm wrapped around Brees' neck which some may considered that a clothline, which in turn is an obvious penalty. In addition, Brees was bleeding from the mouth. Mike Periera also thought that was the right call.

P.S. Your D played one heck of a game.
Originally posted by DrewBrees713:
Saints fan here. As if you can't already tell from my screen name

I watched the replayed probably a dozen time by now. Initially, I thought it was a bad call. But after a few times in slow motion, I noticed Brooks' right arm wrapped around Brees' neck which some may considered that a clothline, which in turn is an obvious penalty. In addition, Brees was bleeding from the mouth. Mike Periera also thought that was the right call.

P.S. Your D played one heck of a game.

Your neck elongated and made contact with Brook's bicep. Not the other way around.
Originally posted by DrewBrees713:
Saints fan here. As if you can't already tell from my screen name

I watched the replayed probably a dozen time by now. Initially, I thought it was a bad call. But after a few times in slow motion, I noticed Brooks' right arm wrapped around Brees' neck which some may considered that a clothline, which in turn is an obvious penalty. In addition, Brees was bleeding from the mouth. Mike Periera also thought that was the right call.

P.S. Your D played one heck of a game.

See above. When the NFL teaches heads-up football programs, this is how they teach their youth to tackle to AVOID penalties and injury. The blood was from the whip lash of his helmet coming back into his face. Standard. Like a car accident.
[ Edited by NCommand on Nov 18, 2013 at 11:19 AM ]
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The call was probably correct, but it's a bad rule. You might as well just outlaw tackling a QB and say you can only push him. It wasn't helmet to helmet, he didn't target or anything. If Drew Brees was the size of an actual football player Brooks' arm woulda been around his chest.

I also agree that, they called it because it was Drew Brees. He is the poster boy for the NFL more so than Tom Brady is. They saw their darling get touched violently and threw the flag. They even showed Brees bleeding as if to justify the call. What the f**k ever. Kap got facemasked earlier and no call. Also got hit out of bounds I think. But he's not Brees so it doesn't matter.

The game shouldn't have come down to that play. It was the correct call by the rules probably. It just sucks that Brees is a midget and the NFL's darling all at the same time.
Originally posted by 11OnDaField1NMyHeart:
from the PL


Its only a penalty if one of Goodell's kids is affected by it, and if you're a white QB. Brady, Brees, Manning x2, Rodgers, and Ryan are the only ones that are protected by the NFL. If Kap, Vick, or Wilson gets hit like that, I doubt it would be a penalty.
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Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Its only a penalty if one of Goodell's kids is affected by it, and if you're a white QB. Brady, Brees, Manning x2, Rodgers, and Ryan are the only ones that are protected by the NFL. If Kap, Vick, or Wilson gets hit like that, I doubt it would be a penalty.

my god,
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If the NFL is so concerned about concussions and protecting the quarterback, how about telling Breed to tighten his fckng chin strap so his helmet doesn't rattle around his skull every time the guy gets tackled.
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Its only a penalty if one of Goodell's kids is affected by it, and if you're a white QB. Brady, Brees, Manning x2, Rodgers, and Ryan are the only ones that are protected by the NFL. If Kap, Vick, or Wilson gets hit like that, I doubt it would be a penalty.

Playing the race card again, eh?

While I understand why 49ers fans are upset but the tackle was made high. There was a call where Brees's was hit in the face mask but it wasn't call either. Both teams got away with some calls IMHO
Bree's is a midget so everything is a head shot on him.
Originally posted by DrewBrees713:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Its only a penalty if one of Goodell's kids is affected by it, and if you're a white QB. Brady, Brees, Manning x2, Rodgers, and Ryan are the only ones that are protected by the NFL. If Kap, Vick, or Wilson gets hit like that, I doubt it would be a penalty.

Playing the race card again, eh?

While I understand why 49ers fans are upset but the tackle was made high. There was a call where Brees's was hit in the face mask but it wasn't call either. Both teams got away with some calls IMHO

fans get tunnel vision and get obsessed with a particular call all the time. they often forget the many plays before or after they play that chapped their ass so badly.