Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Originally posted by NCommand:
^^^ Totally Jiks. Watch Sports Center right now. They are covering the Brooks hit after the commercial break and are now using it as the catalyst for QB penalties in the NFL.
Let me know what was said please. At work
OK, they had Adam S and Eric Allen representing.
Adam S said, "The league is happy with this call. It's exactly what the league wanted. You heard Drew Brees say, as soon as he got hit he KNEW that a penalty was coming. You can not touch the head....but the league is determined to protect the QB."
They showed the interview with Bowman, Brooks and Brees and Brees was saying he got hit in the chin and obviously, we know the Niner's take on it. As Brooks said, "...they (NFL) try to protect all players around the NFL as much as possible but I just think they protect the offensive players a little too much...I felt like I hit him with my chest. I basically bear-hugged him. I'm just mad b/c that was a big play in the game and we lost the game and that's probably the reason why." Bowman, "A guy's momentum takes him to a 5' QB and the only way to get him down is let him raise his arm...I don't get it, man. I just feel like we're playing so hard for nothing
Ouch! Absolutely deflating. People underestimate the DAMAGE these critical calls do to players at critical moments of the game (during their war/battle). That point about Brooks feeling he hit him with his chest is critical...the arm really had nothing to do with the play other than securing the tackle (balance) and it ensured Brees couldn't just spin out of it. It was dead...but the HIT was the chest on Brees' shoulder. This is where everyone is not focusing their attention enough, IMHO. That chest-to-the-shoulder hit was what shot Brees to the ground and made the ball fly upwards.
Eric Allen said, "It's an interpretation and the referee decided it was a hit that was around the neck. When you look at the play you see that he is coming through with his arm...and there is no way he can either go lower or now you're talking about...around the knees. I thought it was a good hit. It's just a situation where he's 6'5 and Brees is barely 6'. So again, you get a situation where you have a markable player in this position...they are so valuable...but as far as defense is concerned, it's very difficult to play defense and be physical these days."
Adam S said, "If you watch that play, I don't know WHAT he would have done any different (Eric agreed)...he came around the corner, he stuck his arm out...hit him in the head, penalty!"
"Welcome to the new NFL."
PS: They do keep harping on the hitting to the head/neck area but I'm personally, still not seeing that. I saw a hit to the chest/shoulder area and the aftermath of two bodies colliding/connected towards the ground (one fell all the way and one was able to somehow stay upright).
Eric Allen also went on to say the same thing I said. To paraphrase, he said that the offensive player needs to be taken into account on these plays (if the QB or RB ducks his head, turns his body, etc.) THAT needs to be written into the rule book on these judgments. He went on to say as long as the defender is targeting the stike zone and is not LAUNCHING himself into the player (a malicious act with intent to injure) the defensive player should be given the benefit of the doubt here esp. in the case where no helmet-hitting was involved here. And there is no doubt Brooks was aiming for (and hit) the strike zone initially and had zero intent to injury.
...you want to see launching of the helmet with the intent to injure? Go rewatch the Superbowl, 2nd to last play, where their DB launched the crown of his helmet up into the face mask of Crabtree
, giving him a mild concussion. We all know what happened after that...
[ Edited by NCommand on Nov 18, 2013 at 11:04 AM ]