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Kap or playcalling?

Kap or playcalling?

Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by ninerfreak:
Kaepernick 17/31 127 yards 4.1 per play


Jaguars- Henne 27/42 255yds 6.1 yds per play

Falcons- Ryan 19/36 254yds 7.1 yds per play

Cleveland- Campbell 27/56 248yds 4.4yds per play


SMH


Somehow we're supposed to think that Kaepernick is a worse QB than Henne or Campbell? I just think that its a further indictment of the 49ers playcalling. There are teams with lesser QB's and less talent on offense doing more with it, meanwhile the 49ers are doing less with the talent than they have than anyone else in the NFL.
Really? These stats are just silly. None of those Qbs have anything to play for. Their seasons are over and the coaches are letting the Qb toss it up more.

Ninerfreak... Are you saying you would rather have those Qbs or their team records???
Where is Alex when you need him. Everyone, including me drank the CK Kool Aid. He has got to go. His doesn't have the intelligence to play the QB position. He may have the athletic ability but certainly not the smarts. He and Greg Roman are dreamers in the midst of reality. Clearly the coaching staff have no clue and they keep feeding the players as well as the media the same BS every week. "Who has is better than us?" "Every team we play!" One man (Crabtree) does not make a team. CK needs to get that he sucks as a play caller and so does GR. Get a clue SF, you have some of the greatest players in the NFL, but your coaching and leadership (CK), suck!
I think we should fire Roman just like the Ravens fired their OC late in the season last year.
Originally posted by astro_niner:
Niner fan since 1994, first post.

I think its lot of people's fault - Baalke, Harbaugh, Roman, Kaep, OLine, receivers.

Remember Baalke's arrogance on Jenkins pick? He had written the pick in before the draft, I think. Like Seinfeld used to say - a road less traveled is less traveled for a reason. If nobody else is looking to draft Jenkins, there must be a reason. He missed on CB Peterson who got drafted by Arizona. His free agent pick-ups are questionable too - Snyder, Dahl. He let Marcus Cooper go. Its laughable that he is trying to extend CB Brown. He plays mind games with Seattle, like picking-up TE Harper, then we cut him, so why did you pick him up, if you had no plan for him? So childish. I didn't like him extending Anthony Davis.

Harbaugh himself admitted that he is nowhere near where his older brother is, in terms of knowledge of football. But, he sure is arrogant. He would allow and encourage Kaep to be in Atlanta over the off-season building muscles, but not coaching him in how to play QB.

Roman's background is OTs, running game. What else can you expect? In the 80s, 90s, I used to see a preference for QB coaches to be made OCs. Why wouldn't Harbaugh have picked-up Pep Hamilton?

Kaep sure seems like a one-read QB these days, but what else can you expect, if nobody is coaching him? I read from other posters about Kaep not having enough time to even scan the defense, because of coaches not getting the play in on time, routinely. I agree with that.

So much more to whine about - Kyle Williams, David Akers, Alex Smith. The thing about Alex Smith is: he is a ball control QB, the perfect fit for what Harbaugh and Baalke are trying to run here (primarily a run based offense), that is the personnel that they currently have, but the idiots trade him. I maybe wrong, but I always get the feeling that Baalke and Harbaugh are trying to run the kind of offense that Baltimore and Kansas City are currently running, which is fine, but they can't execute that vision. Luckily they had a QB who has the skills to be a very good passer, (this being a passing league), but wouldn't care to develop him, or bring-in receiving talents to help him do that, or scheme game plans in that direction. I am watching Chiefs-Broncos game right now, not unhappy that they traded Alex, but the Niners brass sure don't know what they are doing.

God's way of detaching me from Niners.

disagree with you on the offensive philosophy.
if they wanted to run what kc is running or what they ran with alex smith they could do that with no problem.
we don't run any quick plays don't run any screens we don't do any of the things that kc does and we have better personnel to run that type of offense than they do. if we ran it it would actually be pretty potent.

they have an idea about an old offense that nobody runs. nobody does 7 step drop after 7 step drop anymore.

today, brees all he does is 3 step and if he has time then he goes for the deep play.. maybe 5 or 5 times a game..

we could easily do that
if we want to be honest we could just run the offense we ran the 1st game against the bears every game and win... if they load the box we pass and make them pass if they get into zone we run the ball... simple

but simple is not good for roman
the play where he had 3 people shifting at the same time to run a generic run was enough for me. at that point i had seen enough...

if they give him a chance to run the type of offense we were running you'd see a difference but they don't

he has all the tools to run any type of offense

they just don't know what to do with talent. that is clear.

they know how to make marginal or pretty ok players good

they don't know how to take talented good players and make them great. that is what it's looking like
[ Edited by jonesadrian on Nov 17, 2013 at 8:44 PM ]
Originally posted by avi8or:
Where is Alex when you need him. Everyone, including me drank the CK Kool Aid. He has got to go. His doesn't have the intelligence to play the QB position. He may have the athletic ability but certainly not the smarts. He and Greg Roman are dreamers in the midst of reality. Clearly the coaching staff have no clue and they keep feeding the players as well as the media the same BS every week. "Who has is better than us?" "Every team we play!" One man (Crabtree) does not make a team. CK needs to get that he sucks as a play caller and so does GR. Get a clue SF, you have some of the greatest players in the NFL, but your coaching and leadership (CK), suck!

Completing less than 50% of his passes against one of the worst secondaries in the NFL?
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by avi8or:
Where is Alex when you need him. Everyone, including me drank the CK Kool Aid. He has got to go. His doesn't have the intelligence to play the QB position. He may have the athletic ability but certainly not the smarts. He and Greg Roman are dreamers in the midst of reality. Clearly the coaching staff have no clue and they keep feeding the players as well as the media the same BS every week. "Who has is better than us?" "Every team we play!" One man (Crabtree) does not make a team. CK needs to get that he sucks as a play caller and so does GR. Get a clue SF, you have some of the greatest players in the NFL, but your coaching and leadership (CK), suck!

Completing less than 50% of his passes against one of the worst secondaries in the NFL?

lol thank you.
Kaepernick is not a championship quarterback, its obvious from watching him play he is not intelligent enough to run a dynamic offense. He may be a decent NFLmquaterback some day but never championship caliber. They should give him his walking papers, don't get invested in him, and look to the draft for a future superstar.
Originally posted by 49FanMan:
I'm sorry, but Kap just doesn't have enough options. Miller has had too many passes this season. We routinely send one WR into a pass pattern and use a big lumbering fullback as an outlet. I don't even see Kap scanning the field anymore. Its like the play is designed for one person and one person only to get the ball. Instead of throwing the ball to shifty backs, we throw to big slow 250lb plus LBs and 300 Lineman. I'm truly perplexed as to what Roman is thinking. We are not even giving him a chance to be successful. Even the TD pass to Boldin was God awful in design. We run a heavy set one WR package and throw it up like its the last play of the game with nothing to lose. Sure Boldin caught it, but what if it was intercepted?

Seriously! Not enough options! Kap cant make a decision to save his life! Ne stares down receivers, has time in the pocket, and waits until their covered before attempting a pass. How can they (Boldin, Davis, McDonald, Miller, Gore, Manninigham, Baldwin, Hunter, James) all be more accountable than Kap himself? He SUCKS! Get rid of him while he has trade value. They blew it when they didn't get Manning. Hell, Eli would have been a better option. Greg Roman and CK need to be gone. They drink the same Kool Aid.
Kaep sucks.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Our entire offense sucks.

fixed.
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Kaepernick is not a championship quarterback, its obvious from watching him play he is not intelligent enough to run a dynamic offense. He may be a decent NFLmquaterback some day but never championship caliber. They should give him his walking papers, don't get invested in him, and look to the draft for a future superstar.

Yeah, because leading a team to the Superbowl and carrying them while the defense decided to take a big dump all over the place wasn't enough.




So many f**king trolls on this website now, its truly amazing.
Originally posted by avi8or:
Originally posted by 49FanMan:
I'm sorry, but Kap just doesn't have enough options. Miller has had too many passes this season. We routinely send one WR into a pass pattern and use a big lumbering fullback as an outlet. I don't even see Kap scanning the field anymore. Its like the play is designed for one person and one person only to get the ball. Instead of throwing the ball to shifty backs, we throw to big slow 250lb plus LBs and 300 Lineman. I'm truly perplexed as to what Roman is thinking. We are not even giving him a chance to be successful. Even the TD pass to Boldin was God awful in design. We run a heavy set one WR package and throw it up like its the last play of the game with nothing to lose. Sure Boldin caught it, but what if it was intercepted?

Seriously! Not enough options! Kap cant make a decision to save his life! Ne stares down receivers, has time in the pocket, and waits until their covered before attempting a pass. How can they (Boldin, Davis, McDonald, Miller, Gore, Manninigham, Baldwin, Hunter, James) all be more accountable than Kap himself? He SUCKS! Get rid of him while he has trade value. They blew it when they didn't get Manning. Hell, Eli would have been a better option. Greg Roman and CK need to be gone. They drink the same Kool Aid.

Its obviously your 2nd post.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by HONEYBADGER:
Kaepernick is not a championship quarterback, its obvious from watching him play he is not intelligent enough to run a dynamic offense. He may be a decent NFLmquaterback some day but never championship caliber. They should give him his walking papers, don't get invested in him, and look to the draft for a future superstar.

Yeah, because leading a team to the Superbowl and carrying them while the defense decided to take a big dump all over the place wasn't enough.




So many f**king trolls on this website now, its truly amazing.

THIS!! Some of the 'veterans' qualify too1
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by avi8or:
Where is Alex when you need him. Everyone, including me drank the CK Kool Aid. He has got to go. His doesn't have the intelligence to play the QB position. He may have the athletic ability but certainly not the smarts. He and Greg Roman are dreamers in the midst of reality. Clearly the coaching staff have no clue and they keep feeding the players as well as the media the same BS every week. "Who has is better than us?" "Every team we play!" One man (Crabtree) does not make a team. CK needs to get that he sucks as a play caller and so does GR. Get a clue SF, you have some of the greatest players in the NFL, but your coaching and leadership (CK), suck!

Completing less than 50% of his passes against one of the worst secondaries in the NFL?

lol thank you.


Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by avi8or:
Where is Alex when you need him. Everyone, including me drank the CK Kool Aid. He has got to go. His doesn't have the intelligence to play the QB position. He may have the athletic ability but certainly not the smarts. He and Greg Roman are dreamers in the midst of reality. Clearly the coaching staff have no clue and they keep feeding the players as well as the media the same BS every week. "Who has is better than us?" "Every team we play!" One man (Crabtree) does not make a team. CK needs to get that he sucks as a play caller and so does GR. Get a clue SF, you have some of the greatest players in the NFL, but your coaching and leadership (CK), suck!

Completing less than 50% of his passes against one of the worst secondaries in the NFL?

lol thank you.

Yet still winning games
Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Originally posted by avi8or:
Originally posted by 49FanMan:
I'm sorry, but Kap just doesn't have enough options. Miller has had too many passes this season. We routinely send one WR into a pass pattern and use a big lumbering fullback as an outlet. I don't even see Kap scanning the field anymore. Its like the play is designed for one person and one person only to get the ball. Instead of throwing the ball to shifty backs, we throw to big slow 250lb plus LBs and 300 Lineman. I'm truly perplexed as to what Roman is thinking. We are not even giving him a chance to be successful. Even the TD pass to Boldin was God awful in design. We run a heavy set one WR package and throw it up like its the last play of the game with nothing to lose. Sure Boldin caught it, but what if it was intercepted?

Seriously! Not enough options! Kap cant make a decision to save his life! Ne stares down receivers, has time in the pocket, and waits until their covered before attempting a pass. How can they (Boldin, Davis, McDonald, Miller, Gore, Manninigham, Baldwin, Hunter, James) all be more accountable than Kap himself? He SUCKS! Get rid of him while he has trade value. They blew it when they didn't get Manning. Hell, Eli would have been a better option. Greg Roman and CK need to be gone. They drink the same Kool Aid.

Its obviously your 2nd post.



We are watching two completely different games. He rarely has time to throw. Not the kind of time that Brees had all night.

And as far as waiting until receivers are covered goes, there is nothing to wait for because they are blanketed from the snap.