There are 131 users in the forums

Remember
Not a member? Register Now!

What is the real problem with this offensive offense?

What is the real problem with this offensive offense?

Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by MrCrab49ers:
49ers just won 5 in row before this lost. Geez, and Panthers barely won. Colts lost to pathetic lambs. Explain that.

I hear you man. It's just the words "wake up call" that got me. When I think wake up call, I think of that one game that was a slap in the face that inspired change. Well, we've been slapped in the face 3 times now. Not only were they losses, our offense was reduced to rubble. That's not a wake up call, that's a problem.

Now tha Manningham is back. He can practice more with Boldin and Davis. Should free up those 2 more in coverage.
Originally posted by MrCrab49ers:
Have you been watching the Chiefs? Defense score tons of game and Alex doesn't throw down field. Alex is a nice man, but Kaep is way better by 5 years.

W-L...........
Originally posted by sanjo49er:
W-L...........

then quit complaining. we're 6-3
  • xcfan
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 1,463
our receivers can't beat DBs; it's rare that they're open. still, kaep should be able to find some success in tight spots with his fire hose. coaches need to construct plays that favor kaep's fire hose arm. if they don't, we could end up with jeff george.
kaep and his coaches should watch film of warren moon.
A lot of problems with the offense today. Kap played like s**t, playcalling was s**t, pass protection was s**t.

Injuries to Vernon and Celek left us with 1 healthy TE. There goes our multi-TE offense. We had Adam Snyder playing as the "move" TE all 2nd half.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
A lot of problems with the offense today. Kap played like s**t, playcalling was s**t, pass protection was s**t.

Injuries to Vernon and Celek left us with 1 healthy TE. There goes our multi-TE offense. We had Adam Snyder playing as the "move" TE all 2nd half.

Yeap!!!....and 49ers is ala-Stanford like team. Need running game and TEs to be successful.
Originally posted by sanjo49er:
Originally posted by MrCrab49ers:
Have you been watching the Chiefs? Defense score tons of game and Alex doesn't throw down field. Alex is a nice man, but Kaep is way better by 5 years.

W-L...........

The 49ers have the toughest schedule in the NFL and they at 6-3.
Originally posted by jonesadrian:
then quit complaining. we're 6-3

Should off could have.......
Originally posted by SofaKing:
A lot of problems with the offense today. Kap played like s**t, playcalling was s**t, pass protection was s**t.

Injuries to Vernon and Celek left us with 1 healthy TE. There goes our multi-TE offense. We had Adam Snyder playing as the "move" TE all 2nd half.

Funny how these same things happen every time we play a winning team. Green Bay is the only above .500 team we have beaten this year and soon, they too will be below .500. Of those games we lost to winning teams, TWICE we got punked at our own house. That tells me that even if by some miracle Seattle goes on a losing streak and we can get home field, we shall again get punked at our own house.
It drives me nuts that the niners don't have quicker hitting plays and the West coast would use the Running back as a receiver.

Roman doesn't do this. And I'm not sure why he doesn't, because Colin would benefit from it. He has him running deeper plays. I think they need to do more play action deep passes like the steelers used to do.

I do feel when Colin gets pressured he's not as good of a quarterback but who is? Russell Wilson is much better at avoiding the rush and making plays downfield.

Other factors for this game....Not having Vernon kills us because he does so much for the offense. He got hurt in the colts game and we weren't the same. But it's no excuse for not being able to manufacture offense.

OVERALL THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THAT the Niners have no Rhythm to their offense. The other great teams in the league do I think it's because Roman is always scheming the other team and trying different things. QUICKER OFFENSE AND USING MORE OF OUR WEAPONS WOULD HELP US A LOT.

And yes for sure, we were spoiled by Bill Walsh. The Niners still have a lot of games to play and if we got a wildcard we can do damage. We can keep getting better and learn from this game.
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by Frisco69ers:
Kaep having no touch on his passes, all just bullets lol

Yeah. McDonald would have totally caught the ball had Kaep payed it in his bread basket... Oh wait.

seriously, f**k vance mcdonald. he drops the best passes Kap throws every week. were wasting all the good passes on him!!! lol
Originally posted by Oldschool9erfan:
It drives me nuts that the niners don't have quicker hitting plays and the West coast would use the Running back as a receiver.

Roman doesn't do this. And I'm not sure why he doesn't, because Colin would benefit from it. He has him running deeper plays. I think they need to do more play action deep passes like the steelers used to do.

I do feel when Colin gets pressured he's not as good of a quarterback but who is? Russell Wilson is much better at avoiding the rush and making plays downfield.

Other factors for this game....Not having Vernon kills us because he does so much for the offense. He got hurt in the colts game and we weren't the same. But it's no excuse for not being able to manufacture offense.

OVERALL THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THAT the Niners have no Rhythm to their offense. The other great teams in the league do I think it's because Roman is always scheming the other team and trying different things. QUICKER OFFENSE AND USING MORE OF OUR WEAPONS WOULD HELP US A LOT.

And yes for sure, we were spoiled by Bill Walsh. The Niners still have a lot of games to play and if we got a wildcard we can do damage. We can keep getting better and learn from this game.



Bolded and underlined. There is no rhythm to this offense at all, its so random, like they are tossing spaghetti at the wall. Watch any quality offense in the NFL and there is a flow to it, its undeniable, when they get rolling, you know s**t just got real. 49ers have done that a few times on some long drives against the Cardinals and Rams for example, but not often enough and especially against better defenses where it feels as if the coaches just psyche themselves out and completely get away from what has been working.
[ Edited by Phoenix49ers on Nov 10, 2013 at 11:56 PM ]
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
seriously, f**k vance mcdonald. he drops the best passes Kap throws every week. were wasting all the good passes on him!!! lol

To be fair, Kuechly made a hell of a defensive play there, if he hadn't gotten his arm in there and grabbed McDonald, that could have very well been a TD and lights out for the Panthers. That pass was absurdly well-thrown, nobody could have done it any better than that.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
seriously, f**k vance mcdonald. he drops the best passes Kap throws every week. were wasting all the good passes on him!!! lol

To be fair, Kuechly made a hell of a defensive play there, if he hadn't gotten his arm in there and grabbed McDonald, that could have very well been a TD and lights out for the Panthers. That pass was absurdly well-thrown, nobody could have done it any better than that.
it hit vance right in the hands before the defender got in there. vance should have had that one i think. its really nothing out of the ordinary, he drops s**t every week
Originally posted by gunslinger8:
Anyone else remember this?
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/01/07/harbaugh-we-will-install-the-west-coast-offense/
So was the dude flat out lying or does he even know what the west coast offense is? That abomination he put on the field today doesn't resemble WCO on its best day and I am offended that they could be mentioned in the same breath. Don't paint your Ford Escort red and try telling me it's a Ferrari, dude.

LOL thought about it last year
WCO my ass....