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I feel like I'm watching our old offense when Alex smith was playing

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Originally posted by bleedredandgold:
Dissapointed ... yes . Frustrated ..... yes . 2 games back now from seattle . We could have resigned moss , we could have made a trade , we could at least put patton on the field and give the kid a chance , hell we could have brought owens back lol joking but only alittle . Alas we did nothing not even a trade for a reciever . Vernon isnt the same and we let delanie go . We should have taken a positive step to ease the coverage on boldin but we didnt and thats management . We needed to let kap study more under alex and we didnt and after a brillant run last year were seeing kinks in the armour . My last post said one thing ... harbaugh loses all the big games and after our lose to seattle i said it agian , now with this im starting to wonder about harbaugh . Its a tough loss ... lets see if the team does anything to right the ship .

100% agreed.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by niners9:
Alex would have probably put up the same numbers today. Kaep is still a young QB who lost one of his favorite targets in Davis. It is very frustrating but we are much better off with Kaep than Alex.

alex has small hands

How are we better?

9 - 0 > 6 - 3.

6 completions, 10 completions, 92 yards and 1 int.

Some examples of stellar Kaep games this season....
Originally posted by Irish40Niner:
Lol. The old double standard aye? We only count Kaep's early years which are now, but Alex's early years are off limits though.

Yeah, because those early years, pre-Harbaugh, are garbage. Kaep would've floundered TERRIBLY with those pathetic excuses for head coaches in Nolan and Singletary. It's reasonable, if you want to compare Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick, to compare them when they have the same coaching staffs.

To be fair to both though, Alex Smith was a veteran in the league, and last year, in his second year in the system, he was in year 2. Meanwhile, Kaepernick has barely played one year in the NFL, and this is the first year that we've catered the system to his skillset. There's bound to be some growing pains.

When we traded Alex Smith to the Chiefs, it wasn't just because we only had room for one starting quarterback... it was because we wanted to give Kaepernick the reins for not only this year... but possibly the next 10 years. And I can say with confidence that, for the next 5-10 years, Kaepernick is a better choice than Alex Smith.

But obviously, we want to win now because our current roster will only be at its peak for the next year or two before we have to lose key veterans like Gore, Justin Smith, Carlos Rogers, etc. etc. I can NOT say with confidence who would've been the better quarterback for this team. All we needed today was another field goal, or possibly a touchdown on one of our early drives. I think Alex could've gotten that... but really.. who knows?
Another thread discussing Alex Smith. oh goodie
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by niners9:
Alex would have probably put up the same numbers today. Kaep is still a young QB who lost one of his favorite targets in Davis. It is very frustrating but we are much better off with Kaep than Alex.

alex has small hands

How are we better?

9 - 0 > 6 - 3.

6 completions, 10 completions, 92 yards and 1 int.

Some examples of stellar Kaep games this season....

Alex beats playoff teams and Kap only plays against below average teams
Originally posted by redrathman:
Our old offense won more games.

Well technically we are about the same spot as we were last year. after 9 games last year we were 6-2-1. were 6-3 so your talking about a half game there
Originally posted by niners9:
Alex would have probably put up the same numbers today. Kaep is still a young QB who lost one of his favorite targets in Davis. It is very frustrating but we are much better off with Kaep than Alex.

This.

If anyone has ANY opinion that differs, what would he have done on what play that would have been different?

I could count at least 5 plays where Smith would have been sacked that Kaep escaped from.

Would Smith magically have improved the O-line just from his godly presence?

Would Smith's presence have caused Vance to clamp down on that down field pass?
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by niners9:
Alex would have probably put up the same numbers today. Kaep is still a young QB who lost one of his favorite targets in Davis. It is very frustrating but we are much better off with Kaep than Alex.

alex has small hands

How are we better?

9 - 0 > 6 - 3.

6 completions, 10 completions, 92 yards and 1 int.

Some examples of stellar Kaep games this season....

Alex beats playoff teams and Kap only plays against below average teams

I sure haven't seen Kaep or the 49ers beating many good teams this year.
we dont even use freakin Jon Baldwin
Doods...enough with this Alex Smith b******t...he's not a part of this team.

It's fruitless to continue this QB war, because both sides have taken a hard line stance and will not change their opinion.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by niners9:
Alex would have probably put up the same numbers today. Kaep is still a young QB who lost one of his favorite targets in Davis. It is very frustrating but we are much better off with Kaep than Alex.

alex has small hands

How are we better?

9 - 0 > 6 - 3.

6 completions, 10 completions, 92 yards and 1 int.

Some examples of stellar Kaep games this season....

Alex beats playoff teams and Kap only plays against below average teams

says the fans that watched last year.. oh wait!
Originally posted by TyCore:
This.

If anyone has ANY opinion that differs, what would he have done on what play that would have been different?

I could count at least 5 plays where Smith would have been sacked that Kaep escaped from.

Would Smith magically have improved the O-line just from his godly presence?

Would Smith's presence have caused Vance to clamp down on that down field pass?

Smith wouldn't have held onto the ball as long as Kaepernick.

OL ranked #10 through week 9, but sure blame them.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/OL
Originally posted by kray28:
Fire Roman...and bring in a real WCO guy. Kap can make the homerun throws...but first he needs to make the basic ones that can keep the offense on the field.

This. One thing I am sure of after 2 1/2 seasons, Roman has no business being an offensive coordinator in the NFL, don't care if anyone disagrees but this guy has been reliably horrible in games against better teams, can't wait for this guy to be gone.
Let's give credit to the Panthers, Colts and Seahawks D's. Kap is still young and he needs to learn how to adjust. Our Coaches need to learn how to make on the fly adjustments to help the O because too many times we either stick with the gameplan when it ain't working or we try to get too cute and go away with things that are working. Maybe Alex is better now (I'm a big Alex fan) but he too went through his growing pains early in his career trying to make the big play instead of taking what the D is giving him.
Kaep holds on to the ball too long, dammit!