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Biggest Niner Story for Me -- Where Did the Secondary Come From?

Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by boast:
do people even watch the games? Nnamdi has been thrown at 11 times for six completions. four of those happened in the Green Bay game. so yeah, Wilson and Luck didn't pick him apart.

having a vet like Nnamdi is great for our depth.

I agree I dont think he has played as bad as many have said. Problem is though they seem to like Wright who I'm not sure is better than Nnamdi and also do you risk cutting Morris who has played well on ST? Doubt we keep 7 CB's... seems like he is the odd man out even if he doesn't deserve it. We are just really deep at the position. And that's with cutting Cooper and Culliver being out. That being said with Brown, Brock, Cox, Wright, Nnamdi all being free agents after this year and Rogers possibly being cut if he doesn't restructure it might not last long.

Yeah I don't understand all the hate for Nnamdi. People keep talking like he's been abused all year. He was actually solid when he was playing. Definitely wasn't bad. I think Cox should be the one that gets cut, but it will probably be Nnamdi. I'd actually prefer Nnamdi on the outside receiver and have Brock, brown, or wright cover the slot guy instead of Rogers. Rogers is ok, but hes lacking in speed and quickness to effectively cover the better slot receivers in the league.
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Simple. Eric Reid. Okay, maybe not that simple but Reid has done a phenomenal job at safety, I mean he has been nothing short of outstanding and if you watch him out on the field, a lot of the time he's orchestrating the defense, pointing stuff out to guys, getting them in position, etc. He's also been terrific in coverage so it has to be a confidence boost knowing he's back there and is seldom out of position. He's far more intelligent, seems to have far more awareness than Goldson did. Reid has taken a huge amount of responsibility and has run with it, its no accident that all of a sudden Whitner is playing well, that Brock looks good...etc. I think the corners individually have played well but Reid is the glue helping to put it all together.


Secondaries tend to flow together, when the safeties are doing their job, the corners tend to look better...etc. I've always thought that Earl Thomas is a huge reason why Seattle has been successful and he allows their guys to be more aggressive and makes players like Browner look better than they really are.

I was soooo wrong about this kid its not even funny. Hes a stud.

Makes all the hand wringing and whining about trading up for this kid seem ridiculous now, doesn't it? As bad as the 2012 draft was for the Niners, they sure have hit another home run this year starting with Reid.
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Imagine if Cully were healthy. Cully would have put Rogers on the bench by now.

Not really considering Rogers covers the slot and Cully doesn't.
Communication between the secondary is greatly improved. Whitner hit on this earlier in the year about how easy it is for him to communicated with Eric compared to Dashon. Dat reid.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
LOL, why does everyone keep slamming on Rogers? He's actually played pretty well for the most part this season.

I don't get it either. You would think the guy is Nate Clements the way people want to dump him.
The narrative fallacy addresses our limited ability to look at sequences of facts without weaving an explanation into them, or, equivalently, forcing a logical link, an arrow of relationship upon them. Explanations bind facts together. They make them all the more easily remembered; they help them make more sense. Where this propensity can go wrong is when it increases our impression of understanding. —Nassim Nicholas Taleb, The Black Swan

In other words, you're asking a question that, despite the best attempts at posters to draw connections, inferences and provide reasons explaining the seemingly out-of-the-blue great play of our secondary, simply can't be answered.

In other words, who dafuq knows???
lol GoFD bringing that Black Swan explanation.
Originally posted by boast:
lol GoFD bringing that Black Swan explanation.

I'm not ashamed to say I don't know s**t.
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Nmandi Asomugha got hurt. Addition through subtraction.
nope, you keep him for depth. you can never have enough corners and you know we may get a injury or two . no if you want to make a deep playoff run, as long as he is not a problem child in the locker room,,,, you keep him. people are funny as they want to cut someone right now because they "think" wright will be great for us. people who also make knee jerk reactions during the games and want to trade for all these players by halftime are funny to. back to original post, it is amazing they have done so well as we have not had a great pass rush. Remember in the off season many of us figured we would do better back there due to a better pass rush? well that has not taken place but that has had little bearing on the good play back there. can not believe the kid has made all the difference in the world but maybe so.

lol slow down, buddy. I never said we should release him lol. The "subtraction" I was referring to was playing time, not a release. Brock's emergence has increased the level of play in our secondary.
i never meant that as a personal thing against you, sorry it came out that way . i just disagreed with you in a good way that we need to keep him, and i did not get what you were actually trying to say, my other blather was just blather directed at the masses who go crazy in the game forum on game day when things are not going well for us but not you,,, again sorry if it came out wrong.

No need to apologize, bro, I'm not the type to be electronically offended . I do agree with you, regarding that Nmandi should be kept. Always nice to have a veteran cornerback just in case!
Originally posted by verb1der:
I'm only worried about Brown and Rogers on deep passes.

We got Brees, Russel Wilson, Cam Newton, and Matt Ryan coming up, these guys make it a point to test the corners by going deep!

we already played wilson. he tested reid and lost.

and didn't throw it deep again until reid went out.

it's not the quarterback its the safety.

they don't test him deep because he's always there.

locker didn't throw any deep passes all game.

as soon as reid went out the very next play they went deep to his side

and the play after that they went deep to his side.

so let's not try to say the qb's we played aren't capable or willing. yes they all are, we see them any other week throwing it deep.

but not when reid is in the game and not to his side of the field that's just becoming a fact. looking at the film the other team's coordinator is saying "it's a dumb idea to throw it deep on reid"
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
No need to apologize, bro, I'm not the type to be electronically offended . I do agree with you, regarding that Nmandi should be kept. Always nice to have a veteran cornerback just in case!

So who gets cut then? Morris? Cox? The way I see it, Asomugha is the odd man out, Eric Wright is a veteran CB too.
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
I'm not ashamed to say I don't know s**t.


Probably the best post and username I've ever seen. Not that its true but that you put after it.
Originally posted by Gore_21:
I agree I dont think he has played as bad as many have said. Problem is though they seem to like Wright who I'm not sure is better than Nnamdi and also do you risk cutting Morris who has played well on ST? Doubt we keep 7 CB's... seems like he is the odd man out even if he doesn't deserve it. We are just really deep at the position. And that's with cutting Cooper and Culliver being out. That being said with Brown, Brock, Cox, Wright, Nnamdi all being free agents after this year and Rogers possibly being cut if he doesn't restructure it might not last long.

nnamdi has not played bad at all. its just an easy target that's all it is. the writers everyone just literally have it out for him. he's the 1st name brought up as far as poor performance or anything and everything bad when he hasn't been bad.

people are counting "almost" touch downs as a strike against him as if that doesn't happen to anyone else.
it's a shame people will let whatever someone else says overrule what they see on the field. he's been ok needs to sure up his tackling but cover wise he was fine before the injury. only 1 p.i. call in seattle and he wasn't beaten he just didn't turn and look for the ball
Originally posted by jonesadrian:
we already played wilson. he tested reid and lost.

and didn't throw it deep again until reid went out.

it's not the quarterback its the safety.

they don't test him deep because he's always there.

locker didn't throw any deep passes all game.

as soon as reid went out the very next play they went deep to his side

and the play after that they went deep to his side.

so let's not try to say the qb's we played aren't capable or willing. yes they all are, we see them any other week throwing it deep.

but not when reid is in the game and not to his side of the field that's just becoming a fact. looking at the film the other team's coordinator is saying "it's a dumb idea to throw it deep on reid"

I think the very next play was the screen to Chris Johnson which he took to the endzone.
Originally posted by Hopper:
I think the very next play was the screen to Chris Johnson which he took to the endzone.

i thought it was the pass deep that was incomplete that showed spillman standing still like he didn't know the ball had been snapped then doing the "i messed up" head down hard run to try and make up for being out of position.

and then after that one was incomplete they did the same play again.

even when reid was in and spillman was in for whitner the td to delanie was to spillman's side and reid STILL almost came from his side and covered for spillman but he was just a hare too late.
[ Edited by jonesadrian on Oct 22, 2013 at 12:32 PM ]