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The annual "Should we switch to a 4-3 Base D?" Question

  • buck
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
"i know we like to discuss this every year.."

no

no we don't



Some bodies do; it comes up every year.
Why even ask this? We run way more 4-2-5 than the 3-4 anyway.

Lord God,
Let's bring it back!

Not likely BUT with the injury to Bowman and the strengths/experience of Brooks, Condor, Carradine, Lemonier & Skuta as pass rushers on the edges and inside help with Ian, Dorsey, Dial, Justin and RayMac and seeing how much pressure Seattle got with constant rotation at the end spots with older veterans, is there a chance we go this route AND play more press as well with (hopefully) Culliver and Brock on the edges, Morris inside and Reid, rookie @ the S spots?
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Originally posted by Rubberneck36:
Originally posted by goodthings19:
No

Originally posted by cciowa:
no.

Originally posted by boast:
no

Originally posted by MannySoopa49ersnMD:
starting to wonder if people ever actually played football in their lives or just play too much madden LOL

Originally posted by verb1der:
I'm a retired backyard tackle football player, and an All-Madden level gamer. whuuut!

Originally posted by verb1der:
How bout let's try the "Wide 9" thing!

Originally posted by darkknight49:
Every year someone thinks it's a valid argument.

No. This thread went well. Lol. Up next on the zone...is gire too old?!?!

No. The defense is fine.

Who wants to start this year's thread on Gore being too old?
I believe the future of defensive lines will be players who can play up or down, are versatile. Some players will still be the huge pluggers but they will move around and be less predictable. The niners have moved toward this direction by using a 3/4 without a true NT. They rely on the MLBs being able to fill when necessary and because they have the best tandem in the business, it's a successful strategy.

Taking a linebacker out of this defense means putting an All-Pro on the bench. On the other hand, only Justin Smith rises to this level among the DL.

So I'm for a confusing amalgam of defensive fronts that will totally baffle the offenses they play...just as Baltimore tends to baffle SF every time we play them. Let the All-Pro LBs run wild! If we lose some LBs and our DL become All-Pros, then reconsider! I realize that one reason the LBs are so good is the DL protecting them, but it's still the strength of the team.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
I believe the future of defensive lines will be players who can play up or down, are versatile. Some players will still be the huge pluggers but they will move around and be less predictable. The niners have moved toward this direction by using a 3/4 without a true NT. They rely on the MLBs being able to fill when necessary and because they have the best tandem in the business, it's a successful strategy.

Taking a linebacker out of this defense means putting an All-Pro on the bench. On the other hand, only Justin Smith rises to this level among the DL.

So I'm for a confusing amalgam of defensive fronts that will totally baffle the offenses they play...just as Baltimore tends to baffle SF every time we play them. Let the All-Pro LBs run wild! If we lose some LBs and our DL become All-Pros, then reconsider! I realize that one reason the LBs are so good is the DL protecting them, but it's still the strength of the team.

Exactly...that was my point...taking an All-Pro off the field (Bowman) where we have so much strength and rotation at the DL spot may not only help stuff the run and bring the pass rush but free up Willis (only MLB now) and allow the CB's to play more press.

BTW: I'm a huge 3-4 guy but agree, may need to play to our strengths and depth and mix up the schemes more now. Bowman is a HUGE loss.
ya... Let's just go to a split 4-4 too... NOOO!!
IF IT AINT BROKE





DON'T ''FIX'' IT!!!
What the hell is the point of this question? Our defense is what is run by Fangio. It's a base 3–4 but at the same time quite versatile and flexible. This is not that hard to understand.
Just like every other year..........of course not.
this is my most hated thread
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Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
I believe the future of defensive lines will be players who can play up or down, are versatile. Some players will still be the huge pluggers but they will move around and be less predictable. The niners have moved toward this direction by using a 3/4 without a true NT. They rely on the MLBs being able to fill when necessary and because they have the best tandem in the business, it's a successful strategy.

Taking a linebacker out of this defense means putting an All-Pro on the bench. On the other hand, only Justin Smith rises to this level among the DL.

So I'm for a confusing amalgam of defensive fronts that will totally baffle the offenses they play...just as Baltimore tends to baffle SF every time we play them. Let the All-Pro LBs run wild! If we lose some LBs and our DL become All-Pros, then reconsider! I realize that one reason the LBs are so good is the DL protecting them, but it's still the strength of the team.

Exactly...that was my point...taking an All-Pro off the field (Bowman) where we have so much strength and rotation at the DL spot may not only help stuff the run and bring the pass rush but free up Willis (only MLB now) and allow the CB's to play more press.

BTW: I'm a huge 3-4 guy but agree, may need to play to our strengths and depth and mix up the schemes more now. Bowman is a HUGE loss.

Fangio and defensive staff understand the team's strengths and depth better than we do.

Tomsula is truly confused. Somebody should send him a letter explaining in detail the team's need for a "true" nose tackle.

Originally posted by RollinWith21n52:
I know we like to discuss this every year, but its a decently valid question with our current roster.

This year that would allow us to spell JS and McDonald inside with Dorsey, and would keep our 3 best LBs on the field, and our other OLB as the starting DE. Once Tank is back, he could take over the other DE spot. This would allow the most rotation with the aging and ailing big guys up front.

Going into next year, not this year, we could have Brooks, Willis and Bowman as the 3 LBs, with Lemonier, Tank and Aldon rotating as the DEs. Dorsey and McDonald at the DT spots. With Smith likely seeing his last year (could be wrong, but he's hinted of retirement), this may be the best use of our talent.

Just curious as to others' thoughts

Thanks for this thread! While some may be bored with the discussion, I think it worthwhile to consider/reconsider every aspect of the team during the off season. Those who don't like the thread can use their discretion to not click on the link.


THERE IS NO BLEEPING GAME TODAY...WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE TO DO!
[ Edited by dtg_9er on Feb 9, 2014 at 10:45 AM ]
Originally posted by dtg_9er: ... Those who don't like the thread can use their discretion to not click on the link.
... THERE IS NO BLEEPING GAME TODAY...WHAT ELSE DO YOU HAVE TO DO!

You could tune-in to NFL Network as I did, thinking I'd find something worth watching ...
Unfortunately for Niner Fans, it's replay (SB) Sunday. When I tuned-in, our loss to the
Ravens was on ... up next, SBVIII. No Thanx I'll pass ... listening to Spotify, as I work
on a World Cup 2014 celebration/party proposal.
[ Edited by FlayvaMeister on Feb 9, 2014 at 11:09 AM ]