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Anquan Boldin

Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by regulator530:
Boldin is a must sing going into the 2014 season for a couple of reasons.

1. If the Niners want to win it all Boldin is a great leader to the team a classy veteran who can mentor Kap going forward
2. He is physical and with the Hawks CB we need a guy like him to get of the line in press coverage
3. Niners suffer on third down and red zone plays he makes a great third down option
4. Great route runner great hands and great attitude make him an essential part to Kaps growth

We had him this past season for three games against Seattle and could do next to nothing with him. I like Boldin, but we need to change our approach to force Seattle to adjust what they do defensively against us. If they had to keep two safeties deep for example to account for a speedy receiver on the outside, with Crabtree opposite, and Boldin in the slot, we can create some mismatches in the passing game and also create more space for our backs to run. Defenders would be fearful of crowding the line of scrimmage because they could potentially be giving up a big place.

What are you talking about, Boldin had close to 100 yards vs Seattle at home, that's where they were letting players play. Instead in Seattle, where they just let their CB's play.

The home advantage for the Seahawks is not going to change. Boldin has proven to be indispensable against lesser defenses. Against the Seahawks in Seattle, we need at least one WR starter with speed (yes, and all the other attributes required of a starter).

Whatever you say, there's a reason the team is in negotiations with him for a multi-year contract, gee I wonder who's right in this event?

Name your starter with speed who is gonna come in right away and take Boldin or Crabtrees spot?? Yes the team does need to add speed, and I have no doubt that they will, but that receiver with speed at best will be the 3rd or the 4th receiver. And will may likely take over for Boldin or Crabtree (if re-signed), he just has to fight off Quiton Patton for the job too. This offense isn't the greatest show on turf (thank god), a speedy receiver isn't asked to be on the field all the time.
I don't believe the Niners' believe as I'm thinking. They're happy with the power running game, with the WRs and TEs blockers first. It's a formula that's proven to get the team into the playoffs, even into the SB, but not winning.

The starter with speed could be Watkins, Beckhem, Moncrief. I don't know and don't care which. But I would urge the FO to prepare that plan and seek out the person they feel will start with Crab by at least mid-season. For instance, if they feel that Watkins is the guy, then develop the trade that gets a pick high enough. Yes, the trade may include a starter like Iupati or Ray McDonald and high picks.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
I don't believe the Niners' believe as I'm thinking. They're happy with the power running game, with the WRs and TEs blockers first. It's a formula that's proven to get the team into the playoffs, even into the SB, but not winning.

The starter with speed could be Watkins, Beckhem, Moncrief. I don't know and don't care which. But I would urge the FO to prepare that plan and seek out the person they feel will start with Crab by at least mid-season. For instance, if they feel that Watkins is the guy, then develop the trade that gets a pick high enough. Yes, the trade may include a starter like Iupati or Ray McDonald and high picks.

That is almost SEA like with the move they made for Harvin. We will go for the prize both we have proven way too conservative for such a move!! SEA has the chip though
Boldin is a key piece to our success for next year to win more games then Seattle. If we had Crabtree and Boldin for every game last year we wouldn't have lost to Carolina or Indy in the regular season. Heck we might have only lost 1 or 2 games all year!! Worry less about Seattle and more about us and we'll be fine. And that's what the Niners are doing.
Originally posted by Paul_Hofer:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by regulator530:
Boldin is a must sing going into the 2014 season for a couple of reasons.

1. If the Niners want to win it all Boldin is a great leader to the team a classy veteran who can mentor Kap going forward
2. He is physical and with the Hawks CB we need a guy like him to get of the line in press coverage
3. Niners suffer on third down and red zone plays he makes a great third down option
4. Great route runner great hands and great attitude make him an essential part to Kaps growth

We had him this past season for three games against Seattle and could do next to nothing with him. I like Boldin, but we need to change our approach to force Seattle to adjust what they do defensively against us. If they had to keep two safeties deep for example to account for a speedy receiver on the outside, with Crabtree opposite, and Boldin in the slot, we can create some mismatches in the passing game and also create more space for our backs to run. Defenders would be fearful of crowding the line of scrimmage because they could potentially be giving up a big place.

What are you talking about, Boldin had close to 100 yards vs Seattle at home, that's where they were letting players play. Instead in Seattle, where they just let their CB's play.

The home advantage for the Seahawks is not going to change. Boldin has proven to be indispensable against lesser defenses. Against the Seahawks in Seattle, we need at least one WR starter with speed (yes, and all the other attributes required of a starter).

I agree that speed for the niners is badly needed, however, you need leadership like Boldin, he's the closest to Jerry Rice this team has had in a long time. If the Superbowl showed anything, there's only one beat to the Seahawks, you have to run the ball, and control the line of scrimmage, the niners have lost that fight over and over again. The Saints had all kinds of speed, meant nothing. You have to be physical, fast, tough, and smart to beat the Seahawks. In addition to that, the redzone offense totally sucks.
Originally posted by goldlame2013:
I agree that speed for the niners is badly needed, however, you need leadership like Boldin, he's the closest to Jerry Rice this team has had in a long time. If the Superbowl showed anything, there's only one beat to the Seahawks, you have to run the ball, and control the line of scrimmage, the niners have lost that fight over and over again. The Saints had all kinds of speed, meant nothing. You have to be physical, fast, tough, and smart to beat the Seahawks. In addition to that, the redzone offense totally sucks.

Other than Sproles who is used sparingly, who do the Saints have that is incredibly fast? Graham? Colston? Moore? Stills?
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by goldlame2013:
I agree that speed for the niners is badly needed, however, you need leadership like Boldin, he's the closest to Jerry Rice this team has had in a long time. If the Superbowl showed anything, there's only one beat to the Seahawks, you have to run the ball, and control the line of scrimmage, the niners have lost that fight over and over again. The Saints had all kinds of speed, meant nothing. You have to be physical, fast, tough, and smart to beat the Seahawks. In addition to that, the redzone offense totally sucks.

Other than Sproles who is used sparingly, who do the Saints have that is incredibly fast? Graham? Colston? Moore? Stills?

Stills is fast going downfield, ran a 4.38 40 but had 20+ WRs perform the 20 yard shuttle better than him, top 10 in broad jump, so his explosiveness is pretty solid.
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by goldlame2013:
I agree that speed for the niners is badly needed, however, you need leadership like Boldin, he's the closest to Jerry Rice this team has had in a long time. If the Superbowl showed anything, there's only one beat to the Seahawks, you have to run the ball, and control the line of scrimmage, the niners have lost that fight over and over again. The Saints had all kinds of speed, meant nothing. You have to be physical, fast, tough, and smart to beat the Seahawks. In addition to that, the redzone offense totally sucks.

Other than Sproles who is used sparingly, who do the Saints have that is incredibly fast? Graham? Colston? Moore? Stills?

Stills is fast going downfield, ran a 4.38 40 but had 20+ WRs perform the 20 yard shuttle better than him, top 10 in broad jump, so his explosiveness is pretty solid.

Okay so just one guy whos got speed in the dome. I wouldn't say NO is necessarily a lightening quick offense. Brees throws a ton so it creates the illusion of speedy WRs.
With the deal being inked, what are y'all thinking? 2 yr 12M?
Originally posted by jbeale49:
With the deal being inked, what are y'all thinking? 2 yr 12M?

My guess 3, and it will be front loaded so we can walk away.
Originally posted by jbeale49:
With the deal being inked, what are y'all thinking? 2 yr 12M?

3 year 17 mil
3 years, $540 but gets all the free jeans he wants.
http://ninercaphell.com/2014/02/16/possible-framework-for-a-anquan-boldin-extension/

http://www.ninersnation.com/49ers-salary-cap/2014/2/16/5417354/49ers-free-agents-2014-anquan-boldin-contract-hypotheticals-reggie-wayne-santana-moss

My articles from NCH and NN on Boldin.
are people seriously hesistant on whether or not to re-sign boldin? WTF?



RE-SIGN HIM
  • sfout
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Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by sfout:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by goldlame2013:
I agree that speed for the niners is badly needed, however, you need leadership like Boldin, he's the closest to Jerry Rice this team has had in a long time. If the Superbowl showed anything, there's only one beat to the Seahawks, you have to run the ball, and control the line of scrimmage, the niners have lost that fight over and over again. The Saints had all kinds of speed, meant nothing. You have to be physical, fast, tough, and smart to beat the Seahawks. In addition to that, the redzone offense totally sucks.

Other than Sproles who is used sparingly, who do the Saints have that is incredibly fast? Graham? Colston? Moore? Stills?

Stills is fast going downfield, ran a 4.38 40 but had 20+ WRs perform the 20 yard shuttle better than him, top 10 in broad jump, so his explosiveness is pretty solid.

Okay so just one guy whos got speed in the dome. I wouldn't say NO is necessarily a lightening quick offense. Brees throws a ton so it creates the illusion of speedy WRs.

Moore is also that sneaky quick but IMO it is his route running that gets him open. NO's offense is not about speed at all IMO but about exploiting space through quality routes and mismatches.
Originally posted by defenderDX:
are people seriously hesistant on whether or not to re-sign boldin? WTF?



RE-SIGN HIM

crazy money aside, it's a no brainer.