Originally posted by dwett:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
AB8 I am curious. When was the last QB to have a 15 mil plus salary and win the super bowl????? To be honest you can go 10mil a year
Originally posted by dwett:
Sorry I won't let this go but Alex is a prime example of what I am talking about. His salary cap figure does not hurt the team which is why they paid so much in draft picks to get him.
If he wants 18 mil a year to continue on the Chiefs will have to look elsewhere since I am sure they want to pay those great players on D. The thing is if you can have a decent QB for under 10 mil it opens up so much for the rest of your team. If you pay them 18-20 mil is closes that. Can you be successful having a great overall team and a QB that you pay under 10 mil for. YES. Most of the Superbowl winners were on the front ends of the QBs contracts. So would you be better served to construct a great team and only be looking for one piece even though it is important???
This ^^^. Alex makes like $8M a yr for 2013 and 2014 each.
BrianGO, I understand we have nothing else at QB, but it's a cap killer, we cant afford a $20M a yr QB, and keep a good D, or good OL, or good weapons on board. Until the cap rises more than 5-10M a yr, right now its lucky it is 1M rise. we are screwed. I am understanding Kap is basically viewed as the franchise QB, but it makes no sense to mortgage the future for 1 player, QB or Not. And the FO wont be bullied to give in to a high dollar demand like Romo or Flacco got.
All the deals done have been fair deals. Kap is worth a fair $12-$15M a yr, not $20M. We would have no money to retain Crabs, Iupati, Aldon, others like VD, McDonald, Willis in the future, all of which will/should be extended, since they can play at high levels. Think long term, with others. We need money to build around Kap. We cant give it all to Kap, and expect him to make average WRs look amazing, cause guess what, it hasn't wotked this year. Williams, Moore are average at best. Baldwin has been a bust since entering the NFL, but looks good. Only Boldin and VD are getting open, because of their abilities.
Kap isn't making them get open, or look better, both were at top before Kap entered the league. Only ones that get open besides those two is Vance McDonald, and Jon Baldwin
I guess the last QB to have a high salary and win a SB was Eli 2 yrs ago, but wasnt $20M, he made $14.1M in cap, only $9M in cash.
Rodgers, Brady, Big Ben, Peyton all had smaller salaries in there years as SB Champs as starting QBs.
So yeah, I think the last one to have a $15M is a while back. I dont even know if there has been one, maybe it was Peyton when he won his title. All QBs got their deals after their 1st SB win.
Here we go.
Super Bowl Winning QBs, Since 2000
2000- Rams - Warner - $2,004,300
2001- Ravens - Dilfer - $1,000,300
2002- Pats- Brady - $314,993
2003- Buccaneers - Brad Johnson - $6,803,150
2004- Pats- Brady - $3,323,450
2005- Pats- Brady - $5,062,950
2006- Steelers- Big Ben - $4,225,090
2007- Colts- Peyton - $10,571,068
2008- Giants- Eli - $10,046,666
2009- Steelers - Big Ben - $7,971,920
2010- Saints- Brees - $10,660,400
2011- Packers - Rodgers - $6,500,000
2012- Giants- Eli - $14,100,000
2013- Ravens - Flacco - $8,000,000