Originally posted by aTx49er:
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by aTx49er:
Do you have any links of anyone specifically saying that our offense is a one read offense? I find that hard to believe and it's not what I'm seeing after rewatching the games on NFL Rewind coaches film....
Yup: http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/175265-wide-receivers-getting-open/page13/ post #187.
Of the 21 pass plays in this link, can you pinpoint a single play that wasn't a pre-determined, one-read pass? http://www.49ersspin.com/2013/10/week-6-49ers-vs-cardinals-full-game.html. You have coaches film so that would even easier for you to see!
Also, to be fair, it's probably not accurate to say that CK himself is a "one-read QB" b/c that implies that he is brainless. What we ARE saying is that HaRoman scheme passing plays so that CK only HAS to stay with his one read...and I even question whether or not there are any second-read options esp. since almost all passes are made under 3 seconds. What I challenge fans to do is not watch the annointed receiver on these passing plays but what to watch what the OTHER guys are doing - clearing out space, occupying two defenders, blocking down field with the ball in the air, streak-routes with no intent for a reception, etc. Many of the times, once these guys have "done their jobs" they are slowly jogging along, have the backs of their heads to the QB, checked-out, etc. Why? B/c in their minds, the play is over...they did their part!
Ok I get what your saying but I still don't think it's schemed into the offense. True every passing play has a primary receiver but that doesn't mean the QB has to stay with that receiver. Why even scan the pre-snap defensive lineup for mismatches if your throw is predetermined. The fact that Kap 90%(or whatever) of the time throws to his primary receiver just shows that he's still young and learning the game.
I've seen many plays where Kap was looking at bolding to the right/or left and another receiver on the other side of the field get open and looks back at the QB waiting for the pass that never comes. Same with the RBs coming out of the backfield. Looking back ready to catch a pass. Why would they do this if not because they know they are a receiving option on the play?
BTW: I was watching how different the Hawks scheme is last night (looking forward to him getting a HC job very soon) compared to ours.
Anyhow, thanks for the response. Agreed, not "every" play is schemed to get the ball to the annointed receiver. Some plays that include this are bunch formations where you have 3 WR's on one side, 2 streak ahead and start immediately start blocking out the DB's while the underneath man receives it and relies on RAC after that. Another includes 1 WR left and right with 1 TE left and right. The two WR's streak ahead deep clearing out space and the two TE's cross with the one deeper first drawing coverage while the pass goes to the underneath TE who should have room for RAC. These plays, every player plays a roll (supporting cast) to get ONE receiver the ball. Roman does this a lot more than people realize esp. on 3rd downs and in the RZ. Ask yourself how many routes and catches were made IN the endzone...most were designed to hit Crabtree underneath, RAC, and he's in. Either way, the play is pre-determined, one-read. The other passes are typically throw under 3 seconds...typical come-back routes at the sidelines to Boldin. These too are pre-determined. Further evidence is when 10 defenders crowd the box to stuff the run and we don't check out and run into a brick wall. Why? It's pre-determined. I think the plays (still waiting for someone to show me one single progression read play) where you picture multiple receiving options and the first target being covered and CK scanning around are broken plays...ad lib plays. Plays where CK and the WR are on the same page. A good example of that was Boldin this year on the critical 3rd down to seal the game against GB or Crabtree covered on a slant, redirecting and going to the corner of the EZ where CK avoided pressure, moved left and threw a nice touch pass TD to him. So to me, I don't see multiple receiving options save for ad lib plays. They are pre-determined, one-read passing plays designed to get the ball out in under 3 seconds...the rest are ad libs...or him looking off a S but still coming back to his only target. And like the Superbowl, CK continues to force it into Crabtree, Boldin, VD, etc. b/c he knows, it's all or nothing. If that play doesn't work, he knows he is coached to pull it down and scramble keeping his eyes down field. The problem is that if that target doesn't get the ball (esp. on schemed passing plays), we aren't a very good ad lib team like Seattle is. Guys are sometimes not even looking back at the play/CK, jogging slowly thinking their assignment is over, focused on the DB, etc.