Originally posted by NCommand:
Hey brodie...
I apologize if I came off as "this offense sucks!" Obviously that is not the case on any level. We just beat the Cardinals and they fully were aware of our type of offense. Like our running game, you know it's coming but we are so talented, even if you stack 10 in the box, Gore could still break one for a TD once in a while. If Roman continues to "scheme" correctly, VD and Boldin will continue to be open on underneath crossing routes, wheel routes, quick sideline comebacks, corner EZ routes. They are just better and huge mismatches on 75% of the DB's they will face...often times even in press and jam-coverage. I'm very happy we are getting BACK to the Bo Schembechler basics b/c it suits our strength along the OL and RB positions and takes some heat off of CK. We are very creative and dynamic in the run game (minus those slow developing stretch runs that net us -5 yards every time - LOL).
Now, here is where I'm concerned: 1) The passing game (schemed/pre-determined) 2) First down production 3) RZ woes and 4) Opposition adjustments
1) The pre-determined, one-read, "schemed" passing plays (under 3 seconds) - as long as Roman can stay ahead of the DC's, attack weaknesses, etc. this can still work (as we saw with AZ). The issue I'm concerned about is the lack of built in outlets (i.e. RB's flaring out, TE's finding soft zones, the rest of the non-targeted WR's doing a better job of ad libbing and being on the same page as CK and check-outs pre-snap. I don't know if Roman's offense has ANY of this built in or if he needs another year to install that next level. Also, I'm seeing many times with 10 guys creeping up to the LOS, we run right up the gut into a wall. Where is the check-out to single coverage? The "hot reads?" Attacking the vacated blitzing area?
2) Horrendous...it's been an issue for 3 straight years. If this team doesn't get 4 yards on first down, we're in big trouble and play right into the DC's even more. Why we can't "scheme" better production from this down, I have yet to figure out. It's a simple formula...when we do, we win.
3) Pre-Roman, we were the best RZ in the game...3 years later, we're perpetually a poor team here. Compartmentalized game plan issues here?
4) Last year our offense was unknown to the NFL and we took full advantage of it under CK...it was more "dynamic" and "explosive." We'd run teams to death with Gore or we'd pass for 300 yards or we'd even beat a great playoff team by running our QB all over them. Teams had NO clue, like the Bears noted, how to even START to defend us. Now, the read-option has already been thrown out, CK is getting hit from the Q-formation and DC's are figuring out how to stuff us...jam the primary target and spy CK with a LB or DB.
Solutions? I'm looking to you guys who have watched more college football to review some old film and tell me if our offense is not fundamentally sound for the NFL today or if we have another layer or two that has yet to be installed (like the WCO that takes 3-4 years) that is apparent among NFL offenses in today's game...3,5,7-step drops, scripted plays, spread formations with multiple receiving options, multiple pre-snap options/audibles, hot reads, 3-layer route trees, short outlets built in, etc. B/c right now, Carlos is right...one-read and if thwarted, CK is off scrambling (running, looking to pass). It's that simple.
To your #1 point. Agree with all the bolded.
This type of passing offense will reduce turnovers provided the QB isn't errant with the accuracy of his throws because of the limited number of potential targets. Kap has never thrown the ball into double coverage, so it's not like there is absolutely no amount of post snap reading being done. He still has to tell himself when to not pull the trigger.
I think Harbs is walking a fine line here. On one side, you want your young QB to learn through error. Give him more than he can handle to see how he handles it. To watch him learn from his mistakes. On the other side, you have a Super Bowl to win, and you can't let young QB mistakes hurt those chances.
Is the passing offense the way it is because this is all Harbaugh/Roman knows? Is it the way it is because that's all Harbaugh wants Kap to handle at this point in his career?
I apologize if I came off as "this offense sucks!"
I'd like to echo that as well. Truth is, the 49er running game and passing game compliment each other well. Power runs to get those safties to cheat up, then strike downfield. The two go with one another. It's been done in the NFL and it works.
To the underlined above. I feel there does need to be another 'layer' to the offense that needs to be installed, and it's the short passing game. Throwing long balls is great, but what if it's windy? What if your deep threat is injured (IND game)? Is there a high percentage, short passing game the team can fall back to? The season is not halfway done, so the offense we see now will not be the same offense in week 16.
[ Edited by thl408 on Oct 17, 2013 at 1:30 PM ]