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are we underutilizing our players? the state of the franchise...

  • cciowa
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Originally posted by pete98146:
Originally posted by susweel:
trade LMJ + draft pick for WR help.


My thoughts exactly!
no. lets see what mario has this week and let him play for gods sake before you do this. plus i think james should be activated and if mario plays deactivate kyle williams, give the kick returns to james, punt return to cox. we can afford to do this before you start making madden trades
Originally posted by susweel:
trade LMJ + draft pick for WR help.

We can't trade our garbage.... LMJ is not sought after.... this guy would barely get a sniff if released.... you posters think we are playing in the PAC-12....
Originally posted by cciowa:
no. lets see what mario has this week and let him play for gods sake before you do this. plus i think james should be activated and if mario plays deactivate kyle williams, give the kick returns to james, punt return to cox. we can afford to do this before you start making madden trades

You don't give kick returns to anybody.... they have to EARN them.... LMJ has little power and average speed.... get over it....
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LMJ quickness in NCAA may not be translating in the NFL. I know a lot of you want him to be used like Sproles in the passing game or Trenton Holiday in the return game, but it's not happening. I hope he improves, but so far I don't see anything even when he gets a few opportunities.
Originally posted by titan:
LMJ quickness in NCAA may not be translating in the NFL. I know a lot of you want him to be used like Sproles in the passing game or Trenton Holiday in the return game, but it's not happening. I hope he improves, but so far I don't see anything even when he gets a few opportunities.

Bingo.... guy is a lost cause.... waste of a roster spot....
Originally posted by Fourplay:
Originally posted by cciowa:
no. lets see what mario has this week and let him play for gods sake before you do this. plus i think james should be activated and if mario plays deactivate kyle williams, give the kick returns to james, punt return to cox. we can afford to do this before you start making madden trades

You don't give kick returns to anybody.... they have to EARN them.... LMJ has little power and average speed.... get over it....
His 29.8 average begs to differ with you. He also has a 62 yard return mixed in there. Kyle Williams 21.8 is not really to great.
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
His 29.8 average begs to differ with you. He also has a 62 yard return mixed in there. Kyle Williams 21.8 is not really to great.

He had one 40+ return.... in fact, take out that 62 yarder which was poorly covered by the Pats and his average is on par with other kick returners.... nobody is suggesting Kyle Williams is great but this LMJ talk is nauseating....

And in virtually the same sample size Kyle Williams had a long of 94 with 2 of 40+....
[ Edited by Fourplay on Oct 14, 2013 at 7:38 PM ]
Originally posted by Fourplay:
Originally posted by leakyfausett:
His 29.8 average begs to differ with you. He also has a 62 yard return mixed in there. Kyle Williams 21.8 is not really to great.

He had one 40+ return.... in fact, take out that 62 yarder which was poorly covered by the Pats and his average is on par with other kick returners.... nobody is suggesting Kyle Williams is great but this LMJ talk is nauseating....

And in virtually the same sample size Kyle Williams had a long of 94 with 2 of 40+....

Still leaves him with a 27.4 average if you take out his 62 yard return Williams is 25 with the 94 yard return and 22.1 without it. Why is that because Kyle has 9 returns of less than 20 yards. LMJ has 2 . You cant discount a return based on poor coverage because all big returns are the result of a missed assignment.
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^Those are Undrafted free agent stats or last day picks. It's not to the expectation or offensive production you would expect from La James.
  • cciowa
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Originally posted by Fourplay:
Originally posted by cciowa:
no. lets see what mario has this week and let him play for gods sake before you do this. plus i think james should be activated and if mario plays deactivate kyle williams, give the kick returns to james, punt return to cox. we can afford to do this before you start making madden trades

You don't give kick returns to anybody.... they have to EARN them.... LMJ has little power and average speed.... get over it....
uhm,, if you saw him last year,, you would know he is very good on kickoff returns. he earned the job over ginn last year and unless you are ok with kyle running 20 yards on every kickoff return i think you give james the opportunity
Yes, we are absolutely under-utilizing our players.

Being 1 game out of the NFC lead in inexcusable.

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Originally posted by 49erWay:
Yes, we are absolutely under-utilizing our players.

Being 1 game out of the NFC lead in inexcusable.


losing the colts game at home, thanks to your boy roman , was inexcusable. messing around in the red zone early , thanks to your boy roman, vs the cards was inexcusable,,, and the crowning non achievement,, having the god damn ball at second and five in the super bowl, after little james got two yards on first down vs a run stacked defense,,,,,, and getting cute with the playcall,, thanks to your boy roman is in-f**king inexcusable
Originally posted by cciowa:
losing the colts game at home, thanks to your boy roman , was inexcusable. messing around in the red zone early , thanks to your boy roman, vs the cards was inexcusable,,, and the crowning non achievement,, having the god damn ball at second and five in the super bowl, after little james got two yards on first down vs a run stacked defense,,,,,, and getting cute with the playcall,, thanks to your boy roman is in-f**king inexcusable

Come on man. If Roman was as bad as you think he is there's no way our offense would have any success. Are you implying that our offense, as it is right now, is soooo powerful in talent that they can put up 30+ IN SPITE of Roman?

It's time to let the Colts thing go. It was one game. It's not like it's the first time a coordinator has ever misused talent. Remember all the flack Mike Martz used to get for sometimes not using hall of fame RB Marshall Faulk?
Originally posted by mayo49:
Yeah, got to use LMJ on more screen plays, he'd be a monster.

Like Sproles.
We don't use are guys properly. Why did we draft LaMicheal we don't use him at all. No screens, no draws. Not being who we are which is a power running team. Watch last years game against the Bears, that's who we are.
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