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"We can't draft wide receivers"

Originally posted by susweel:
This is true.

They need to bring a new person just to evaluate WRs because whoever was doing it before aint gotta clue.

AMEN, because it seem like they are CONSISTENTLY coming up with good defensive players ... but when it comes to offensive players?
Something is amiss ... maybe it's time to re-evaluate the offensive scouts?
Originally posted by English:
99 and TheDuke

I know! I just think we can draft receivers probably to NFL average. That extended history in (I think) the Duke's post is just horrible!! I think the team chooses not to invest in the position, not that it is unable to.

One thing I think we can agree on. Over the next 6 years we have to invest way more draft capital in receivers. We had huge luck with Boldin and good luck with Manningham as well. But we can't rely on that repeating.

But like Kansas City have for decades relied on other teams to produce their qb's, we seem to be drifting that way with wideouts.
So next spring, let's see it Trent!


Yes, we can all agree that we have not given full attention to our weak WR issues for years now. We can all agree that maybe we should have taken a few more WRs in the draft these last few years, in hopes that some of them turned out to be good.

My point is, if we simply aren't even drafting WRs, then it becomes an issue of identifying good WRs… which kinda makes my point, that we can't draft WRs…. if we can't identify them, it's the same thing!


I also think the problem becomes exasperated when we see how good we are at drafting other positions. When we needed a QB, Harbaugh found the guy for him. When we needed OL, or a pass rushing OLB, we found the guy for us. We've needed guys for years at WRs…. we need to find the guy for us. And we can stop adding 'BLOCKING' to the list of pre-requisites, even though we are a running team. Give me a guy that demands double teams with a safety high, and that's all the blocking he'll ever need to do
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Here are the PFF rating for our wide receivers after 5 games.

Not sure if this picture will fit properly.


[ Edited by buck on Oct 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM ]
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NinerGM:
No, no, no - we need to start draft 6'6 and 6'7 WRs. They do exist!

It puzzles me beyond belief when people say we need bigger receivers. If the CB is already 6'4", having a 6'5" WR isn't going to give you much of an advantage. However if you watched the Colts game, Browner was struggling and having to hold on to Hilton to keep him from getting away, getting called for multiple penalties in the process. When a 6'4", 220 pound CB is yanking down on a 5'10", 180 pound WR, you WILL notice. Most of the time, Hilton was running free and had 2 or 3 steps on Browner pretty much all game long.


This team doesn't lack size, they lack speed overall, they need a gamebreaker, explosive type of receiver whose speed teams will have to respect, one of the reasons Seattle struggled against Indy is because they had to keep Earl Thomas back deep in case Heyward-Bey or Hilton(he did anyways) took one the distance. The 49ers have a roster full of possession receivers pretty much, they need a true homerun threat at the position to keep defense's honest.

That was supposed to be AJ Jenkins.
Guys I had my eye on for the 9ers over the years via my mock drafts:

Sidney Rice
Golden Tate
Dez Bryant
Cordarelle Patterson *gulp*
Julio Jones
AJ Green
Jon Baldwin *gulp*
Rueben Randle
DeAndre Hopkins
Tavon Austin

Hey Baalke hire me as a WR conslutant. I'll work for free!
Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Guys I had my eye on for the 9ers over the years via my mock drafts:

Sidney Rice
Golden Tate
Dez Bryant
Cordarelle Patterson *gulp*
Julio Jones
AJ Green
Jon Baldwin *gulp*
Rueben Randle
DeAndre Hopkins
Tavon Austin

Hey Baalke hire me as a WR conslutant. I'll work for free!

So you mentioned pretty much every good prospect that's come out in recent years. That's not hard.

OMG... Dez, AJ, & Julio were on your radar??? You don't say!
Originally posted by NickSh49:
Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
Guys I had my eye on for the 9ers over the years via my mock drafts:

Sidney Rice
Golden Tate
Dez Bryant
Cordarelle Patterson *gulp*
Julio Jones
AJ Green
Jon Baldwin *gulp*
Rueben Randle
DeAndre Hopkins
Tavon Austin

Hey Baalke hire me as a WR conslutant. I'll work for free!

So you mentioned pretty much every good prospect that's come out in recent years. That's not hard.

OMG... Dez, AJ, & Julio were on your radar??? You don't say!

LOL! Exactly. As if we are drafting without other more important needs like DL, OL, QB, CB, etc ... :)
Originally posted by NickSh49:
So you mentioned pretty much every good prospect that's come out in recent years. That's not hard.

OMG... Dez, AJ, & Julio were on your radar??? You don't say!

LOL.....his radar and everyone else's pretty much.
Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
That was supposed to be AJ Jenkins.

I understand that, they blew it, time to move on and find someone who can actually fulfill that role for this team.
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It would seem that we have to wait until next year's draft to see how well the team can draft wide receivers.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
So you mentioned pretty much every good prospect that's come out in recent years. That's not hard.

OMG... Dez, AJ, & Julio were on your radar??? You don't say!

LOL.....his radar and everyone else's pretty much.

I was the only one who thought Calvin Johnson would be any good. It's on record, look it up.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
So you mentioned pretty much every good prospect that's come out in recent years. That's not hard.

OMG... Dez, AJ, & Julio were on your radar??? You don't say!

LOL.....his radar and everyone else's pretty much.

I was the only one who thought Calvin Johnson would be any good. It's on record, look it up.
:)

Speaking of Dez Bryant he lasted until the 24th pick in the 1st round -- a round where we selected Mike Iupati and Anthony Davis before him which of course we have no problem with. But I would have made a move for Bryant even if it meant sacrificing Iupati. Taylor Mays was our 2nd round -- could have packaged this and some others to get another 1st for Iupati. Woulda coulda shoulda :)
Originally posted by fortyninerglory:
:)

Speaking of Dez Bryant he lasted until the 24th pick in the 1st round -- a round where we selected Mike Iupati and Anthony Davis before him which of course we have no problem with. But I would have made a move for Bryant even if it meant sacrificing Iupati. Taylor Mays was our 2nd round -- could have packaged this and some others to get another 1st for Iupati. Woulda coulda shoulda :)

I hear ya on Bryant. I think everyone knew he'd be a good player. On film he looked like a man among boys in college. He was considered a top 10, maybe top 5, talent. But teams were scared to death of his attitude, off field issues. I'm very happy with Iupati, an All-Pro guard and good character.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by NickSh49:
So you mentioned pretty much every good prospect that's come out in recent years. That's not hard.

OMG... Dez, AJ, & Julio were on your radar??? You don't say!

LOL.....his radar and everyone else's pretty much.

I was the only one who thought Calvin Johnson would be any good. It's on record, look it up.


Sorry bud this was twos company. I am an avid Georgia Tech fan. I had no doubt Calvin would be a whale in a pond of fish.
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Go further back at day 1 busts. Rashaun Woods, Brandon Williams, Jason Hill, Derek Hamilton.

Crabtree and Morgan are the only good recievers we've drafted since the f**king year 2000. Now if that isn't pathetic....
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