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Atl is not trading for Gordon at 1-4. They are done. If anything they should start having a fire sale.
I don't understand why the FO piles up on draft picks if they're so stingy on spending them during the year when we need help in areas? We are NOT drafting 13 rookies. Get real. This trade makes so much sense.

Gordon is most likely better than any receiver we'll find in the 2nd round or any WR this team picks anyway. This spares us from having to draft a WR early (we all know how well the FO evaluates and drafts WRs ) and we know what we're getting with him. He's a proven baller that is an emerging star in this league. I'd feel much better spending a 2nd rounder on a guy who has NFL experience and is a proven play maker.

Gordon is easily the best, fastest, and most athletic receiver on this team. He is an instant weapon for Kap, his presence alone takes a lot of the pressure off of Boldin and VD and would allow a much more explosive pass attack. Let's be real, expecting Mario and Crabs to come back from the injuries they have and produce at 100% when/IF they return is wishful thinking and highly unrealistic. Gordon can come in and be an instant starter and difference maker.

Gordon is only 22, on a rookie contact which means adding him doesn't hurt us cap wise until his contract expires in 2015. Boldin is not long term and it is not guaranteed that he or Mario even comes back next year and Crabtree's contract runs out soon as well. Then what will we have? A bunch of rookies? Lol.

I am fully aware of the "baggage" that comes with Josh and the medium-high risk factor that comes with bringing him on board. But really if Josh didn't have a few issues, he'd easily be worth a 1st rounder. If we get him, we can hope that maybe a change in environment can do him some good and he can stay out of trouble. If he can, it's a huge win for us. I just can't see us winning with this pathetic receiving core we have. IMO, Baalke should've been trying to make something happen when Patton went down. Our window is still open and we could use help NOW. Not in a few weeks, not in a few months, but now. And Josh Gordon would be a huge addition for us not only now but perhaps in the future as well.

Baalke, surprise me. Make it happen !!
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
I don't understand why the FO piles up on draft picks if they're so stingy on spending them during the year when we need help in areas? We are NOT drafting 13 rookies. Get real. This trade makes so much sense.
Well, nobody thinks we're drafting 13 rookies. They will likely combine picks to trade up, or trade for future picks (or most likely of all, do both).

It's not like a team can say, "hey, we only have 4 roster spots, let's only draft 4 players." Drafting more players than roster spots is shrewd -- it gives you safety nets if you whiff on picks.
Originally posted by LottOfDefense:
Atl is not trading for Gordon at 1-4. They are done. If anything they should start having a fire sale.

They would be stupid if they did. Even with Julio out for the year, their receiving core is not the issue. It's their awful d-line that they need to be more concerned about. Playoff chances are becoming increasingly slim for them anyway; they need to finish out the season, rebuild their defensive depth, and look for the draft at this point .
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
I don't understand why the FO piles up on draft picks if they're so stingy on spending them during the year when we need help in areas? We are NOT drafting 13 rookies. Get real. This trade makes so much sense.

Gordon is most likely better than any receiver we'll find in the 2nd round or any WR this team picks anyway. This spares us from having to draft a WR early (we all know how well the FO evaluates and drafts WRs ) and we know what we're getting with him. He's a proven baller that is an emerging star in this league. I'd feel much better spending a 2nd rounder on a guy who has NFL experience and is a proven play maker.

Gordon is easily the best, fastest, and most athletic receiver on this team. He is an instant weapon for Kap, his presence alone takes a lot of the pressure off of Boldin and VD and would allow a much more explosive pass attack. Let's be real, expecting Mario and Crabs to come back from the injuries they have and produce at 100% when/IF they return is wishful thinking and highly unrealistic. Gordon can come in and be an instant starter and difference maker.

Gordon is only 22, on a rookie contact which means adding him doesn't hurt us cap wise until his contract expires in 2015. Boldin is not long term and it is not guaranteed that he or Mario even comes back next year and Crabtree's contract runs out soon as well. Then what will we have? A bunch of rookies? Lol.

I am fully aware of the "baggage" that comes with Josh and the medium-high risk factor that comes with bringing him on board. But really if Josh didn't have a few issues, he'd easily be worth a 1st rounder. If we get him, we can hope that maybe a change in environment can do him some good and he can stay out of trouble. If he can, it's a huge win for us. I just can't see us winning with this pathetic receiving core we have. IMO, Baalke should've been trying to make something happen when Patton went down. Our window is still open and we could use help NOW. Not in a few weeks, not in a few months, but now. And Josh Gordon would be a huge addition for us not only now but perhaps in the future as well.

Baalke, surprise me. Make it happen !!


The Niners pile up draft picks in order to move around on draft day, and not necessarily to package them for trades during the season. It's their philosophy.
Originally posted by Rascal:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Baldie:
You said it, but does ATL have picks they can give up? Also ATL needs help in other areas and the draft would help them out. I don't know if they would give up a 2nd rounder for Gordon knowing they already have 2 explosive WR's.

They will eventually need to get a TE.....Gonzales is done after this season.

They need offensive and defensive linemen badly, not to mention a halfback and a replacement for Gonzales. They are gonna need all of the draft picks and then some luck in free agency. If I were the falcons owner I would start looking for a coach that doesn't suck too...

Exactly. I'd be surprised if they go after Gordon. Most teams that are contenders pretty much have a solid WR core (Denver, Indy, Cincy, Saints). Seattle and SF are the only ones that have mediocr WR corps right now and I would not be surprised if Seattle is in mix at some point.


If the Browns are asking for a 2nd, I'd do it before other teams start jumping in.


Do it now before there is a bidding war or basically before Atlanta beats us to it.

Atlanta is desperate now, at 1 and 4, losing Julio for the season and with Roddy still far from 100% from his ankle injury, they will do anything.
Not gonna happen.
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
I don't understand why the FO piles up on draft picks if they're so stingy on spending them during the year when we need help in areas? We are NOT drafting 13 rookies. Get real. This trade makes so much sense.

Gordon is most likely better than any receiver we'll find in the 2nd round or any WR this team picks anyway. This spares us from having to draft a WR early (we all know how well the FO evaluates and drafts WRs ) and we know what we're getting with him. He's a proven baller that is an emerging star in this league. I'd feel much better spending a 2nd rounder on a guy who has NFL experience and is a proven play maker.

Gordon is easily the best, fastest, and most athletic receiver on this team. He is an instant weapon for Kap, his presence alone takes a lot of the pressure off of Boldin and VD and would allow a much more explosive pass attack. Let's be real, expecting Mario and Crabs to come back from the injuries they have and produce at 100% when/IF they return is wishful thinking and highly unrealistic. Gordon can come in and be an instant starter and difference maker.

Gordon is only 22, on a rookie contact which means adding him doesn't hurt us cap wise until his contract expires in 2015. Boldin is not long term and it is not guaranteed that he or Mario even comes back next year and Crabtree's contract runs out soon as well. Then what will we have? A bunch of rookies? Lol.

I am fully aware of the "baggage" that comes with Josh and the medium-high risk factor that comes with bringing him on board. But really if Josh didn't have a few issues, he'd easily be worth a 1st rounder. If we get him, we can hope that maybe a change in environment can do him some good and he can stay out of trouble. If he can, it's a huge win for us. I just can't see us winning with this pathetic receiving core we have. IMO, Baalke should've been trying to make something happen when Patton went down. Our window is still open and we could use help NOW. Not in a few weeks, not in a few months, but now. And Josh Gordon would be a huge addition for us not only now but perhaps in the future as well.

Baalke, surprise me. Make it happen !!

Crabtree is better than Gordon.
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
I don't understand why the FO piles up on draft picks if they're so stingy on spending them during the year when we need help in areas? We are NOT drafting 13 rookies. Get real. This trade makes so much sense.

Gordon is most likely better than any receiver we'll find in the 2nd round or any WR this team picks anyway. This spares us from having to draft a WR early (we all know how well the FO evaluates and drafts WRs ) and we know what we're getting with him. He's a proven baller that is an emerging star in this league. I'd feel much better spending a 2nd rounder on a guy who has NFL experience and is a proven play maker.

Gordon is easily the best, fastest, and most athletic receiver on this team. He is an instant weapon for Kap, his presence alone takes a lot of the pressure off of Boldin and VD and would allow a much more explosive pass attack. Let's be real, expecting Mario and Crabs to come back from the injuries they have and produce at 100% when/IF they return is wishful thinking and highly unrealistic. Gordon can come in and be an instant starter and difference maker.

Gordon is only 22, on a rookie contact which means adding him doesn't hurt us cap wise until his contract expires in 2015. Boldin is not long term and it is not guaranteed that he or Mario even comes back next year and Crabtree's contract runs out soon as well. Then what will we have? A bunch of rookies? Lol.

I am fully aware of the "baggage" that comes with Josh and the medium-high risk factor that comes with bringing him on board. But really if Josh didn't have a few issues, he'd easily be worth a 1st rounder. If we get him, we can hope that maybe a change in environment can do him some good and he can stay out of trouble. If he can, it's a huge win for us. I just can't see us winning with this pathetic receiving core we have. IMO, Baalke should've been trying to make something happen when Patton went down. Our window is still open and we could use help NOW. Not in a few weeks, not in a few months, but now. And Josh Gordon would be a huge addition for us not only now but perhaps in the future as well.

Baalke, surprise me. Make it happen !!

Crabtree is better than Gordon.
Not by much if he is. Gordon might already be better and he is only 22.
Originally posted by pd24:
Not by much if he is. Gordon might already be better and he is only 22.

Seen 3 of four of their games this year and a few last year, he drops a lot of passes, he has better deep speed but Crabtree is quicker out of his cuts and has better hands. He would be a great compliment to this offense, his looming one season suspension is trouble waiting to happen. He needs to grow up.
With Vernon's injury woes, do we pull the trigger for Tony Gonzalez
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
I don't understand why the FO piles up on draft picks if they're so stingy on spending them during the year when we need help in areas? We are NOT drafting 13 rookies. Get real. This trade makes so much sense.


We need every last one of those draft picks. We are going to have a lot of free agents next year who we have to replace with good talented rookies.

This team, or "locker room" has never shown any ability to control players like Gordon. Gordon can't catch any passes if he is suspended for a year. There is a reason the Browns are shopping him. Don't you think they want good WR's on their team too?
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
I don't understand why the FO piles up on draft picks if they're so stingy on spending them during the year when we need help in areas? We are NOT drafting 13 rookies. Get real. This trade makes so much sense.

Gordon is most likely better than any receiver we'll find in the 2nd round or any WR this team picks anyway. This spares us from having to draft a WR early (we all know how well the FO evaluates and drafts WRs ) and we know what we're getting with him. He's a proven baller that is an emerging star in this league. I'd feel much better spending a 2nd rounder on a guy who has NFL experience and is a proven play maker.

Gordon is easily the best, fastest, and most athletic receiver on this team. He is an instant weapon for Kap, his presence alone takes a lot of the pressure off of Boldin and VD and would allow a much more explosive pass attack. Let's be real, expecting Mario and Crabs to come back from the injuries they have and produce at 100% when/IF they return is wishful thinking and highly unrealistic. Gordon can come in and be an instant starter and difference maker.

Gordon is only 22, on a rookie contact which means adding him doesn't hurt us cap wise until his contract expires in 2015. Boldin is not long term and it is not guaranteed that he or Mario even comes back next year and Crabtree's contract runs out soon as well. Then what will we have? A bunch of rookies? Lol.

I am fully aware of the "baggage" that comes with Josh and the medium-high risk factor that comes with bringing him on board. But really if Josh didn't have a few issues, he'd easily be worth a 1st rounder. If we get him, we can hope that maybe a change in environment can do him some good and he can stay out of trouble. If he can, it's a huge win for us. I just can't see us winning with this pathetic receiving core we have. IMO, Baalke should've been trying to make something happen when Patton went down. Our window is still open and we could use help NOW. Not in a few weeks, not in a few months, but now. And Josh Gordon would be a huge addition for us not only now but perhaps in the future as well.

Baalke, surprise me. Make it happen !!

Crabtree is better than Gordon.
Last year he was... Haven't seen anything from him this year? I love Crabtree and Mario but I think this guy is a security blanket. You can't bank on Crabtree and Mario coming in and all of a sudden all our receiver problems is gone? 6 freaking completions last game. Really??? Seattle whipped our ass last game. I don't care if the game was in Seattle... Twice they kicked our butts. They are getting Percy back. Yes, both teams are getting healthier... We were the team who was 5 yards away... We are not going to beat these high powered offenses if we can't score points.... I'm freaking tired of these good teams stacking the box and we have no one to step up in the receiver position that can't step up... Now.. The time is now. If not Gordon, someone... Because in reality Crabtree and Mario are still going to need time once on the field. Give Keap some weapons... We finally have a qb... Give the guy some weapons. I don't wana come dec and have what 2012-2013 happened. NFC title loss to the giants and Super Bowl loss. Do whatever it takes to give Keap more weapons. I don't care who it is.. As long as he catches td in the receiver position.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
I don't understand why the FO piles up on draft picks if they're so stingy on spending them during the year when we need help in areas? We are NOT drafting 13 rookies. Get real. This trade makes so much sense.


We need every last one of those draft picks. We are going to have a lot of free agents next year who we have to replace with good talented rookies.

This team, or "locker room" has never shown any ability to control players like Gordon. Gordon can't catch any passes if he is suspended for a year. There is a reason the Browns are shopping him. Don't you think they want good WR's on their team too?


I don't think any locker room can control a player who wants to drink or smoke weed. Locker rooms can control players in terms of trying to be distractions to the team, whether by being divas or trying to create divisions, but they can't keep players from going home and lighting up a joint. It simply is not possible.
Originally posted by JerryRice1848:
With Vernon's injury woes, do we pull the trigger for Tony Gonzalez

Jay Glazer tweeted he spoke to Gonzalez amid all the trade rumors and Tony stated he wants to finish his career with ATL. But if you dangle a SB contender in front of him, he could change his mind. But the niners probably couldn't afford him at this point unless he takes a significant paycut for a chance at a SB in his last year. Makes you think...why not right?
Originally posted by BrianGO:
We need every last one of those draft picks. We are going to have a lot of free agents next year who we have to replace with good talented rookies.

This team, or "locker room" has never shown any ability to control players like Gordon. Gordon can't catch any passes if he is suspended for a year. There is a reason the Browns are shopping him. Don't you think they want good WR's on their team too?

OMG, you hit the nail on the head. We will need every pick since we do have alot of pending FA's.

And we cannot control knuckleheads by our strong locker room presence.