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Can someone explain this to me??

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Russell Wilson was a Rookie and look what he did

Oh man...you've got to be kidding me. Daniels was a 7th round pick who almost wasn't even drafted.

Tom Brady was drafted in the 7th Round

And how many other elite QB's have come that late in the draft?

So he is elite now? Good to know.

I would say Tom Brady is considered elite, you wouldn't?
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Russell Wilson was a Rookie and look what he did

Oh man...you've got to be kidding me. Daniels was a 7th round pick who almost wasn't even drafted.

Tom Brady was drafted in the 7th Round

And how many other elite QB's have come that late in the draft?

So he is elite now? Good to know.

I would say Tom Brady is considered elite, you wouldn't?

I'm fairly certain he was referencing Daniels, not Brady.
Originally posted by JoeBart324:
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Russell Wilson was a Rookie and look what he did

Oh man...you've got to be kidding me. Daniels was a 7th round pick who almost wasn't even drafted.

Tom Brady was drafted in the 7th Round

And how many other elite QB's have come that late in the draft?

So he is elite now? Good to know.

I would say Tom Brady is considered elite, you wouldn't?

I'm fairly certain he was referencing Daniels, not Brady.

Maybe, maybe not
Originally posted by JoeBart324:
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Russell Wilson was a Rookie and look what he did

Oh man...you've got to be kidding me. Daniels was a 7th round pick who almost wasn't even drafted.

Tom Brady was drafted in the 7th Round

And how many other elite QB's have come that late in the draft?

So he is elite now? Good to know.

I would say Tom Brady is considered elite, you wouldn't?

I'm fairly certain he was referencing Daniels, not Brady.

Ding ding ding....Gutter tell him what he's won!
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by JoeBart324:
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Russell Wilson was a Rookie and look what he did

Oh man...you've got to be kidding me. Daniels was a 7th round pick who almost wasn't even drafted.

Tom Brady was drafted in the 7th Round

And how many other elite QB's have come that late in the draft?

So he is elite now? Good to know.

I would say Tom Brady is considered elite, you wouldn't?

I'm fairly certain he was referencing Daniels, not Brady.

Ding ding ding....Gutter tell him what he's won!

Well when you already responded to the same post I quoted it seemed like you had misread my post
Originally posted by midrdan:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
A show of hands...if you have ever been paid to make personnel decisions in the NFL please speak right up.

My hand isn't raised, but to suggest that the people in the front office are the best qualified to make personnel decisions simply because they work in the front office is a circular argument. There are tons of individuals that have made glaring, no brainer mistakes with personnel and draft decisions.

I will only address the B.J. Daniels move here because, to me, it is the one that has the biggest potential to backfire. Yes, B.J. Daniels can only be evaluated on his preseason showing. The guy was a 7th round pick that was mobile, moved the offense, and made plays in the fourth quarter. There was no compelling reason to let him go in exchange for a guy like John Skelton and many reasons to keep him even if, as some posters have suggested, he was a problem in the locker room (very doubtful - the kid is a 7th round backup that had no issues of "me first" coming out of college).

1. It is way too soon to say that he won't develop into a legitimate QB. Again, he played well in the opportunities given to him.

2. Even supposing that we had no plans of ever making him the No. 2, teams value QB really high. Are you telling me that with another strong preseason showing that Daniels would not have garnered trade interest? He seemed like the perfect player to turn into a higher draft pick than what was spent on him.

3. There is little financial impact to keeping him.

4. His mobility should have been an asset in practice in preparing for other mobile QBs.

If the team is going to release a guy like that I think they owe it to the fan base to provide a little more explanation than "We really like Skelton and its unfortunate B.J. had to go, we thank him for his contributions, etc."

They owe you an explanation for dumping a third string QB with zero experience, and picking up a vet? Perhaps they should let you know if they change to decaf? Or the brand of stick em the receivers use.....those two decisions are more likely to have bearing on the outcome of a game in the next year than Daniels will.
If SEA claimed him that means 30 other teams passed on him. Even the Titans who are looking to workout David frickin Carr. That said, I hope Chris Harper suits up at one point and lays a crackback block on a seahawk.
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by JoeBart324:
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by adamcarrillo85:
Russell Wilson was a Rookie and look what he did

Oh man...you've got to be kidding me. Daniels was a 7th round pick who almost wasn't even drafted.

Tom Brady was drafted in the 7th Round

And how many other elite QB's have come that late in the draft?

So he is elite now? Good to know.

I would say Tom Brady is considered elite, you wouldn't?

I'm fairly certain he was referencing Daniels, not Brady.

Ding ding ding....Gutter tell him what he's won!

Well when you already responded to the same post I quoted it seemed like you had misread my post

Tom Brady was drafted in the 6th round, pick 199.
Nate Davis 2.0. Deja Vu anyone?
Originally posted by RealShaloop:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by RealShaloop:
These trades and adds/drops are f**kin annoying now. Get rid of a QB3 who looked promising as hell for Skelton? Neither was gonna see the field this season so why not Daniels? He is definitely a lot better. Anyone who watched the preseason would know that.


Baalke actin like this is Madden.

No. You are acting like it is Madden. Baalke is acting like it is his job.

Go troll someone else


LOL. So anyone who responds to you is trolling you?
I honestly don't see the big deal. If Daniels hasn't shown enough to supplant McCoy at #2 by now, it's entirely possible the staff didn't see him as a viable short-term solution at backup. If we ever had to use him, the season was lost anyway, so I don't have too much of a problem seeing him go. He very well may develop into a dependable player elsewhere, but he was a project QB on at team that's smack dab in their "win now" window.
As far as worrying about the strategic implications of Seattle picking Daniels up...just don't. Most of what he can give them at the moment can be (and probably already has been) learned through diligent scouting/film review. By the time we play Seattle again, not only will there be significant changeover in offensive personnel; but the coaching staff will have installed a (probably sizeable) package of plays, specifically for that game.

I'm not saying we should implicitly trust the front office without question; I just believe that sometimes we don't fully consider both the long-term and short-term implications of the moves they make.
You guys are funny. Has any one of you been at any of the 49ers practices and seen BJ Daniels? Have you tested his knowledge of the offense? Have you closely evaluated skillset? When people refer to 3rd string developmental players as "young, up-and-coming talent" I tend to chuckle. I guarantee that Harbaugh knows much more about BJ Daniels' abilities and his potential than any of you. Just because we saw some flashes in preseason games does not mean he is the second coming. I'm sure Harbaugh would have liked to have kept him on the practice squad, but apparently the possibility of him landing on another team's roster was a risk he was willing to take, and for good reason.
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The Seahawks taking him is not a big deal. We only care b/c it's the Seahawks, but we do this back and forth with them all the time. It doesn't affect us for Sunday or for our team this year. The Seahawks already have a 5'10 athletic QB that can only throw off of playaction. We should hope Daniels has to play for them at some point this year.
Good teams cut good players. Hmm...how long has that been going on?
Originally posted by midrdan:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
A show of hands...if you have ever been paid to make personnel decisions in the NFL please speak right up.

My hand isn't raised, but to suggest that the people in the front office are the best qualified to make personnel decisions simply because they work in the front office is a circular argument. There are tons of individuals that have made glaring, no brainer mistakes with personnel and draft decisions.

I will only address the B.J. Daniels move here because, to me, it is the one that has the biggest potential to backfire. Yes, B.J. Daniels can only be evaluated on his preseason showing. The guy was a 7th round pick that was mobile, moved the offense, and made plays in the fourth quarter. There was no compelling reason to let him go in exchange for a guy like John Skelton and many reasons to keep him even if, as some posters have suggested, he was a problem in the locker room (very doubtful - the kid is a 7th round backup that had no issues of "me first" coming out of college).

1. It is way too soon to say that he won't develop into a legitimate QB. Again, he played well in the opportunities given to him.

2. Even supposing that we had no plans of ever making him the No. 2, teams value QB really high. Are you telling me that with another strong preseason showing that Daniels would not have garnered trade interest? He seemed like the perfect player to turn into a higher draft pick than what was spent on him.

3. There is little financial impact to keeping him.

4. His mobility should have been an asset in practice in preparing for other mobile QBs.

If the team is going to release a guy like that I think they owe it to the fan base to provide a little more explanation than "We really like Skelton and its unfortunate B.J. had to go, we thank him for his contributions, etc."

You're blaming the FO, but how do you know Harbaugh wasn't really the one "pulling the trigger" on this. After all, it is a QB move.