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We're giving up an average of 28 points per game over the last 9 games

The problems with the offense are clear as day, but our previously vaunted defense has also struggled 8 of our last 9 games (last 6 last year), giving up: 34, 42, 13, 31, 24, 24, 28, 29, 27. I think there are some clear problems that are not being addressed:


• Our secondary is terrible. We can't cover anybody. Obvious, but had to be mentioned.
• We need a real nose-tackle to clog up the middle.
• We don't blitz enough or throw enough variations at the opponent. It's the same four man rush every single play. It's like watching 1960's football. Other teams have all sorts of blitz packages flying around. We hardly even move players around pre-snap, giving the opposition plenty of time to analyze and dice-up our alignment. It's like our coach or coordinator has an unmovable belief that this single, repetitive approach will eventually prevail, despite the results that indicate otherwise.

I am hoping we've had enough tail-kickings for the coaches / GM to realize these defensive issues need to be addressed. We're clearly not playing defense with a fierceness or intensity anymore, and it seems like the players are getting pretty frustrated / embarrassed out there with their lack of effectiveness.
Defense hasn't been the same since we made the QB switch and ran a higher tempo risk-taking offense. I think there is a correlation between the two because the defense is out on the field more so than before.

We need to get that methodical WCO control type offense.
I think the problem with our Defense is our Offense (time of possession and field position?).
To be far most of those games were against top offenses in the league. At NE, At Sea, Packers, Falcons, Packers, At SEA. Colts offense is pretty good too and Ravens were as well. Last 2 games we held strong for 3+ quarters but the offense didn't do their job and the defense seem to give up/crumble. Also, not all those points given up were on the defense. Some ST, some due to offense turning the ball over deep in our own territory.

I agree though we haven't done a good enough job though. Like I figured we probably won't see that 2011 defense again and we will have to start winning more shootouts. Our offense is different and so is our philosophy but hopefully we get back to that 2011 team some what. Just would be with a better offense and worse defense. I don't know if we took Carradine or Dial with the intent they wouldn't play this year but one thing for sure is Dobbs and Jerod-Eddie aren't good depth. Of course Williams got hurt so that didn't help but have to plan on that. I would agree we need better depth on the DL and to be able to rotate Justin and Ray and still get consistent pressure. We need to blitz a little bit more. I don't know if the secondary is terrible, probably about average. I think we will see new blood after this year. Don't see Whitner, Brown, Asomugha, possibly Brock and Rogers (unless he takes a paycut) back. Could be returning only Culliver and Cox with a FA vet and a bunch of draft picks.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Sep 23, 2013 at 11:08 PM ]
The offense is the problem. It is giving too many possessions to the opposing team. Our defense can only stop so many drives in a game while the offense flounders.
Forget the last 9 games. I know why we have given up 27 & 29 the last 2 games. Offensive ineptitude. The defense played mostly well into the 3rd then got tired going into the 4th. The first game they gave up 28 against Aaron Rodgers and his offense. The Packers scored under 20 just 2 times last year. What about those turnovers the last 2 games also. That's a killer too.
[ Edited by qnnhan7 on Sep 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM ]
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Forget the last 9 games. I know why we have given up 27 & 29 the last 2 games. Offensive ineptitude. The defense played mostly well into the 3rd then got tired going into the 4th. The first game they gave up 28 against Aaron Rodgers and his offense. The Packers scored under 20 just 2 times last year. What about those turnovers the last 2 games also. That's a killer too.

Yup. The defense is fine, but getting thin. Just lost their best two LBs and NT. Still have very capable players though. There's no point going back to last season to compare it with this defense. It's a different team now, different season.
Originally posted by 9erempire:
Defense hasn't been the same since we made the QB switch and ran a higher tempo risk-taking offense. I think there is a correlation between the two because the defense is out on the field more so than before.

We need to get that methodical WCO control type offense.

Originally posted by trellblaze:
I think the problem with our Defense is our Offense (time of possession and field position?).

Originally posted by Forkenick:
The offense is the problem. It is giving too many possessions to the opposing team. Our defense can only stop so many drives in a game while the offense flounders.

Exactly the PROBLEM is!!!!
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Last game was 13-7 in the 4th then the ineptitude of our O made the score balloon. Same in Seattle.

That's not to say i'm not worried about our D, but my biggest concerns are injuries and its castration at the hands of the officials.
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The defense and the offense is the problem. We can't sustain drives on offense and we can't get off the field on defense.
Originally posted by mayo49:
The defense and the offense is the problem. We can't sustain drives on offense and we can't get off the field on defense.

They can get off of the field on defense, it's just that as soon as they reach the bench to get a breather, Kaepernick is walking back to the sideline to tell them to go back on the field again.
Originally posted by mayo49:
The defense and the offense is the problem. We can't sustain drives on offense and we can't get off the field on defense.

The defense held the Colts to 13 pts through 3qters. I'd say they were able to get off the field enough. However, getting off the field doesn't matter much when the offense puts you back on the field 3 plays later...
Originally posted by mayo49:
The defense and the offense is the problem. We can't sustain drives on offense and we can't get off the field on defense.

This easily sums it up.

The d-line allows those 1-3 yard surges a little bit too much, but I was impressed with how the D was handling the 3rd & 1-4. It wasn't until the punts started racking up, and a fumble form the QB, that the points started racking up against the team.
The defense has done fine, in the last 2 games, the offense was a big part of why so many points were scored, example being Kaepernick's fumble deep in 49ers territory which left Indy with a gimme to score a touchdown. The defense can't be expected to pull off miracles when the offense is doing jack s**t. Once some semblance of a coherent, effective offense is put into place, the defense will be just fine.
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Originally posted by trellblaze:
Originally posted by mayo49:
The defense and the offense is the problem. We can't sustain drives on offense and we can't get off the field on defense.

The defense held the Colts to 13 pts through 3qters. I'd say they were able to get off the field enough. However, getting off the field doesn't matter much when the offense puts you back on the field 3 plays later...


Yeah, I think that's the more accurate description. Our offense isn't helping the defense by going 3 and out every possession.