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Think LOGICALLY, blame ROMAN/HARBAUGH

Guys we can talk about it until we're blue in the face but in reality the division is done. Could the 49ers still make the playoffs sure but we aren't going anywhere. This team simply isn't going on the road and beating Dallas,New Orleans and Seattle in consecutive weeks. More then likely Thursday in St. Louis this team will be without Aldon Smith,Crabtree,Willis,Manningham,Ian Wiliams,Culliver and Vernon Davis. Our injuries + a brutal schedule to start the season will be too much to overcome.
Originally posted by SanFranFanfrmVa:
Guys we can talk about it until we're blue in the face but in reality the division is done. Could the 49ers still make the playoffs sure but we aren't going anywhere. This team simply isn't going on the road and beating Dallas,New Orleans and Seattle in consecutive weeks. More then likely Thursday in St. Louis this team will be without Aldon Smith,Crabtree,Willis,Manningham,Ian Wiliams,Culliver and Vernon Davis. Our injuries + a brutal schedule to start the season will be too much to overcome.

We'll have players back for the playoffs possibly even Crabtree. There's still time.
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by IdahoNiner:
Thats not really a logical way to look at the game since our offenses dont face each other. And LOL at the colts having better RB's than us. Frank averaged 7+ yards a carry on 11 carries.

That makes me furious. The game was close all the way until late 4th quarter. How in the f**k did we only run Frank 11 times at 7 yards a pop. He was getting quality yards consistently. f**k Roman.

I understand wanting your QB to be the face of the offense, but the one thing that has always frusterated me most with Harbaugh and roman is their misuse of Frank Gore. Frank Gore IS the face of this offense. He is still the best and most reliable back on the roster and it really isaint close. He has been since he was drafted, but its just convienient to forget about him because he is the definition of a pro. This offense lives or dies on the back of Gore. It has since he was drafted. When will Roman and Harbs realize his? It should have been pretty obvious after losing a superbowl.
Originally posted by Call_In_Kap:
I've been reading posts on here for the past few years but never signed up until now. I completely agree with the frustration expressed by the other members on this thread. I was totally flabbergasted by Roman's play calling today. It was almost as though the guy has Kap on his fantasy team and wanted to inflate his stats. I've been calling for the Niners to get away from the pistol/read option all year due to the way it has negatively affected our running game overall. I had been waiting for Roman to put us back into the I-formation and run it down the opponents throat. He started off doing it today and our offense was clicking on the 91 yard drive. Then for whatever reason, he decided to go back to handing the ball off out of the pistol formation and designing sweep pitches to Anthony freakin Dixon and designing runs for Kap out of the read option. He never gave Gore 2 runs out of a traditional formation again on any possession the rest of the game. Very frustrating, but look on the bright side guys, at least Roman's fantasy team probably lost as well.

We are in an identity crises on offense. We don't do anything well anymore. No rhythm running or passing. Unless we can re-establish the running game from the I formation and start getting some play action passing we are toast. The league has figured out the read option. Amazing how fast it disappeared. Receivers. Huge issue. Won't go away this year. Need to pinpoint who the long term keepers are and start getting them playing time.
The defense is another matter. They look decent but are on the field too long and just aren't the caliber of the last two years. Well actually, they began to fade late last year. There are a lot of factors on a downward trend. I for one am looking forward to see how Harbaugh handles this, the first really big test of his coaching career. While this year may be pretty bad compared to the last two, a lot can be learned from this by the coaching staff and Balke which could make us a better team in the long run. I still believe that in Harbalke we have the best top people in the league. We're about to find out.
Originally posted by WALTERWHITE:
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Looking at the game logically, the Colts had better receivers, better running backs and a better QB.

They have a better scheme and better play calling. They try down field throws to stretch the defense while everything the 9ers do is 15 yards and shorter.

Ironicly they are running a similar offense to what we were running in 2011. But im not sure your discription is acurate.
[ Edited by IdahoNiner on Sep 22, 2013 at 7:14 PM ]
Originally posted by DelCed2486:
Originally posted by LottOfDefense:
Harbaugh and Roman our their own worse enemy. If it ain't broke don't fix it.


It's very perplexing...last week HarMan was very stubborn about the Pistol / read-option. They stuck with well after any halfway-intelligent football-minded person could see it just wasn't going to work.

Then they started off this week like "okay, we get it, let's get back to setting all the cute stuff up by first pounding the rock with Gore." And it worked. Yet did they stick with it? No, it was almost as if they said "alright then, we scored a TD, let's go back to what's been failing miserably so far this year."

Yes...that is the most amazing thing about this game, so blatently obvious...Amazing stupidity.
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Your second sentence makes no sense whatsoever.


The 49ers coaching staff need to re-watch the Bears film

Before they were in desperation mode how many passes did the 9ers throw that were 25 yards or longer? Zero if any. How many long PI penalties did Indy benefit from? A couple at least.
Originally posted by WALTERWHITE:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Your second sentence makes no sense whatsoever.


The 49ers coaching staff need to re-watch the Bears film

Before they were in desperation mode how many passes did the 9ers throw that were 25 yards or longer? Zero if any. How many long PI penalties did Indy benefit from? A couple at least.

Why would they need to throw deep passes? THAT has been the issue. You RUN the ball to SET UP the pass. Frank was doing great, the didn't stick with the run, and on passes ran plays that took too long to develop. No play-action or anything. Go re-watch the Bears game. Play-calling is all f**ked up
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Why would they need to throw deep passes? THAT has been the issue. You RUN the ball to SET UP the pass. Frank was doing great, the didn't stick with the run, and on passes ran plays that took too long to develop. No play-action or anything. Go re-watch the Bears game. Play-calling is all f**ked up

9ers what doubleD the Ravens rushing yards in the Superbowl but still lost, and lost because of the big pass plays the Ravens completed almost at will. Teams still do the same to the 9ers almost at will gaining large PI penalties or long completions yet the 9ers rarely try to stretch the field. Sorry but it's a passing league now.
Originally posted by WALTERWHITE:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Why would they need to throw deep passes? THAT has been the issue. You RUN the ball to SET UP the pass. Frank was doing great, the didn't stick with the run, and on passes ran plays that took too long to develop. No play-action or anything. Go re-watch the Bears game. Play-calling is all f**ked up

9ers what doubleD the Ravens rushing yards in the Superbowl but still lost, and lost because of the big pass plays the Ravens completed almost at will. Teams still do the same to the 9ers almost at will gaining large PI penalties or long completions yet the 9ers rarely try to stretch the field. Sorry but it's a passing league now.

I'm not saying it isn't. I'm saying there is no rhythm. There is no timing. All Flacco did was throw hail marries and the WR came down with it. How can we stretch the field when teams aren't falling for play-action and we have no WR speed?
Originally posted by cjsmoove:
Originally posted by mkmasn:
Originally posted by Antix:
Originally posted by mkmasn:
?

2 years ago. Which QB, wearing Red and Gold, went to the NFCCG with Kyle Williams, Brett Swain, Ted Ginn?

Hint: Not Joe Flacco

That team ran the ball.

This team should too.

Agrred.... Going back to the matter at hand... This is NOT on Kap.... In addition our Defense was better then.

why does he get all the credit for when the team succeed and none of the blame when the team fails? the kaepernick version of alexcuses haha..... someone needs to think of a good pun!
Originally posted by WALTERWHITE:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Why would they need to throw deep passes? THAT has been the issue. You RUN the ball to SET UP the pass. Frank was doing great, the didn't stick with the run, and on passes ran plays that took too long to develop. No play-action or anything. Go re-watch the Bears game. Play-calling is all f**ked up

9ers what doubleD the Ravens rushing yards in the Superbowl but still lost, and lost because of the big pass plays the Ravens completed almost at will. Teams still do the same to the 9ers almost at will gaining large PI penalties or long completions yet the 9ers rarely try to stretch the field. Sorry but it's a passing league now.

No. They lost for many number of things in the SB. One of which was not running the football at the end of the game.

And just because one team uses one method to win, it doesnt mean all teams need to follow that formula to be successful. See 2011 and most of 2012 49ers offense.
weird how just a couple of years ago that we was all mad that Jimmy Raye's offense was RUN RUN RUN up the gut, now its PASS PASS PASS. All i want is BALANCE please!
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Roman -- so cunning, so brilliant, so tricky... he's so smart, he out smarts himself.

*thinking to himself at halftime*

Hmmmm, I better dial up something different because the plays (that worked) in the first half will be figured out by the Colts' coaches... I better switch it up a little so I can outsmart them... I need to be CUTE and tricky so we can fool them. Oh no what to do, what to do
Roman took the Greenbay game as an indicator that the passing game had arrived when in fact we all knew it was an anomaly. Same arrogance with the Seattle game; the 49ers aren't prepared to win by out-thinking their opponents combined with doing what they do best. They think they have enough offensive talent to run any kind of offense they want and we know that's not true. Roman watches film so he should have known that wasn't true last week. Ridiculous loss.