Originally posted by Rascal:Originally posted by buck:If you were talking about only Baldwin, the claim that we never utilize our players makes no sense whatsoever. You should choose your words with more care.
Your complaint is that Harbaugh did not use Baldwin in the first three games, correct.
I am willing to bet that Baldwin is active for the next game. I am hoping that he plays well and becomes an integral part of our passing game.
I am not sure Baldwin should have been active for the first three games. He has not been here very long.
We do not know if he had learned the play book. We do not know what he has looked like in practice.
Remember, that there is a red flag that comes with Baldwin, and it seems to be associated with his head.
Andy Reid, who is no dummy, was perfectly willing to trade Baldwin for AJ Jenkins. Reid lost patience with him very quickly.
That does not speak very highly of Baldwin.
If Baldwin is a problematic player, and there are plenty of indications that he is, activating him immediately might have been a mistake.
An immediate activation could have enabled him to think that he has no problems that need fixing.
Making him earn his place on the active roster on the other hand sends a good message. Here is the message that may have been intended.
We do not really care what happened in KC or in college. We were willing to trade for you. We care about what you do here in SF.
If you show us that you have the drive and skills, you will play here, but you have to earn it with us.
Now, the fact of the matter is we do not know much about what has transpired between the coaching staff and Baldwin.
If you, and others, want to make the assumption that Harbaugh made a mistake in his dealing with Baldwin, go for it.
It just seems more than a bit premature to me.
No, is not just Baldwin, it was Brandon Jacobs as well as AJ Jenkins as some have pointed out (although not me personally as I felt I had already seen enough).
But, let's focus on Baldwin here for the purpose of this discussion, first off, the playbook argument is weak or even simply invalid.
Why ? Does one need to know the entire 785 pages of the playbook before one can play ? No.
Can a player be utilized on certain packages for certain specific situations say by learning 10 plays to begin with ? Yes.
And by the way, this is not something that I invented cos many teams do it. If not, how the hell can Trenton Richardson be traded and played in an away game within a matter of days ? Do you mean to tell me he had already learnt the entire playbook within 3 days ? Does he have a photographic memory ?? Surely not, right ?
And to add, Jon Baldwin is from the 2011 draft class while Richardson is from the 2012 draft class, in other words he has even more real game experience than Richardson. So, are you saying he can't even handle memorizing only a handful of plays not to mention he already possesses a healthy base knowledge from the West Coast Offense carry-over from the Chiefs ?
As for "earning your spot", well do you think Richardson had already "earned" his starting spot before the game when he was immediately named a starter by Chuck Pagano at the trade press conference ? He has been to what ? May be a couple of Colts practices ? Oh and they already had Ahmad Bradshaw, a guy who gashed us twice when he was with the Giants and is still gashing us now as evident on last Sunday's game. But, yes they still decided to play Richardson right away cos they believed he could contribute.
Baldwin has already been with the 9ers for at least 5 weeks ? Has any of his so-called "red flags" resurfaced thus far ? I haven't heard anything, have you ?
Then you look at how the current receiving corps has been playing, KW's performance has been very so so or even subpar in the eyes of some. What do you do then ? You rotate and try out others. Actually, Badlwin is the ONLY receiver we have left on the 53 who is yet to play a game. It is not like we have a truckload of options to go to.
I am not the only person on earth who is asking to try out Baldwin. There are many posters here who are asking the same. Heck, even the media is asking the same question.
Just try him out, at least see what he can bring. If he plays well let him continue, if not take him out and give him a bit more time in practice that's all. What's wrong with that ? Nothing.
I totally agree with you Rascal. Baldwin should have been playing 2 games ago. There is nothing special about KW or Moore. I would even play the rookie Patton ahead of those guys. We should of kept Collie instead of Moore. One catch for 6 yds is not impressive.