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My Mock Outlook to 2014 and 2015 Cap Wise

http://www.ninercaphell.com/MockFuture.xls

And in black and white.

What I did.

All in 2014

Extended Kap - 6yr $90M extension on top of his last year ($20M signing bonus)
Released Rogers
Extended and reduced Gore
Extended and reduced Vernon Davis
Extended Aldon - 5yr/$60M deal ($12M signing bonus)
Extended and reduced Ray McDonald
Tendered RFA Cox -$1.5M
Tendered EFA Wilhoite -$570K
Re-Signed Boldin - 2yr $10M deal($6M bonus)
Re-Signed Manningham - 3yr $8.275M ($3M bonus, $259K Roster, and $100K workout yearly bonuses)
Re-Signed Dawson - 2yr $3M

2014 Salaries:

# Name Pos. Signed 2014 Salary
76 Davis, Anthony RT 2019 $7,532,266
53 Bowman, NaVorro ILB 2018 $7,050,000
99 Smith, Aldon OLB 2014 $6,976,727
52 Willis, Patrick ILB 2016 $6,909,875
94 Smith, Justin DE 2015 $6,736,666
55 Brooks, Ahmad OLB 2017 $6,500,000
7 Kaepernick, Colin QB 2020 $5,630,457
15 Crabtree, Michael WR 2014 $4,770,443
85 Davis, Vernon TE 2018 $4,285,916
81 Boldin, Anquan WR 2015 $4,000,000
90 Dorsey, Glenn NT/DE 2014 $3,792,500
74 Staley, Joe LT 2017 $3,400,000
77 Iupati, Mike LG 2014 $3,255,863
91 McDonald, Ray DE 2019 $3,126,714
21 Gore, Frank RB 2016 $3,070,000
4 Lee, Andy P 2018 $2,400,000
82 Manningham, Mario WR 2016 $2,075,000
9 Dawson, Phil PK 2015 $2,000,000
35 Reid, Eric FS 2016 $1,927,444
43 Dahl, Craig FS/SS 2015 $1,883,333
75 Boone, Alex RG 2015 $1,740,000
51 Skuta, Dan OLB/ILB 2014 $1,650,000
27 Spillman, C.J. FS/SS 2014 $1,558,333
20 Cox, Perrish CB 2014 $1,500,000
93 Williams, Ian NT 2015 $1,408,333
84 Baldwin, Jon WR 2014 $1,377,765
68 Snyder, Adam RG/RT 2014 $1,300,000
95 Carradine, Tank DE 2016 $1,124,473
23 James, LaMichael RB 2015 $904,968
41 Ventrone, Raymond FS 2014 $855,000
89 McDonald, Vance TE 2016 $817,995
29 Culliver, Chris CB 2014 $794,719
32 Hunter, Kendall RB 2014 $754,805
67 Kilgore, Daniel C 2014 $685,075
78 Looney, Joe LG/C 2015 $676,250
49 Miller, Bruce FB 2014 $660,614
96 Lemonier, Corey OLB 2016 $630,880
11 Patton, Quinton WR 2016 $592,875
88 Celek, Garrett TE 2014 $572,000
38 Lattimore, Marcus RB 2016 $570,146
57 Wilhoite, Michael ILB 2014 $570,000
71 Dial, Quinton DE 2016 $540,413
58 Fleming, Darius ILB/OLB 2015 $536,000
54 Moody, Nick ILB 2016 $521,918
5 Daniels, B.J. QB 2016 $506,628
64 Marquardt, Luke OT 2015 $496,666
47 McDermott, Kevin LS 2015 $496,666
63 Jerod-Eddie, Tony DE 2014 $495,000
56 Stupar, Nate ILB 2014 $495,000
13 Harper, Chris TE 2015 $495,000
44 Debniak, Alex FB 2015 $421,666
98 Okoye, Lawrence DE 2015 $421,000
Carswell, Brandon WR 2014 $420,000

Total and Dead $118,800,885
Total $113,913,392
2014 Cap $124,000,000
Cap Space $5,199,115
Dead Money $4,887,493

Dead Money

Lowell Rose $5,334
A.J. Jenkins $1,745,000
Carlos Rogers $2,989,062
Ricardo Lockette $5,000
D.J. Harper $2,000
Trenton Robinson $55,250
Carter Bykowski $34,422
Marcus Cooper $34,422
Darryl Morris $5,334
Patrick Omameh $2,000
Chuck Jacobs $667
Michael Purcell $2,000
MarQuies Gray $2,667
Jewell Hampton $1,668
Sherman Carter $2,667

Total $4,887,493


We would still have over $5M to use for the draft class.

In 2015.

Franchise WR Crabtree- $10.5M
Re-Sign Mike Iupati - 5yr extension thru 2019, worth $40.5M ($7.5M bonus, $1M roster bonuses yearly)
Retain Dorsey - 2yr deal, worth $7M ($3M bonus)
Retain Skuta - 2 yr deal worth $3.5M ($1M bonus)
Retain Miller - 4yr deal worth $2M a yr
Retain Hunter - 3yr deal worth $2M a yr
Retain Kilgore - 2yr deal worth $2.725M
Retain Culliver - 5yr deal worth $5M a yr
Ahmad Brooks restructures his deal, lowers base salary from $6M, to $1M.
Patrick Willis redoes and extended, new 5yr deal, thru 2020, reduces $7.605M base to $1.605M

2015 Salaries:

# Name Pos. Signed 2015 Salary
15 Crabtree, Michael WR Franchised $10,500,000
52 Willis, Patrick ILB 2020 $4,550,875
85 Davis, Vernon TE 2018 $8,780,916
55 Brooks, Ahmad OLB 2017 $5,016,666
53 Bowman, NaVorro ILB 2018 $7,750,000
7 Kaepernick, Colin QB 2020 $7,500,000
76 Davis, Anthony RT 2019 $6,716,670
91 McDonald, Ray DE 2019 $6,501,714
94 Smith, Justin DE 2015 $6,236,668
81 Boldin, Anquan WR 2015 $6,000,000
74 Staley, Joe LT 2017 $5,200,000
21 Gore, Frank RB 2016 $3,715,000
77 Iupati, Mike LG 2019 $3,380,000
82 Manningham, Mario WR 2016 $2,850,000
4 Lee, Andy P 2018 $2,550,000
90 Dorsey, Glenn NT/DE 2017 $2,500,000
35 Reid, Eric FS 2016 $2,312,933
9 Dawson, Phil PK 2016 $2,000,000
75 Boone, Alex RG 2015 $1,990,000
43 Dahl, Craig FS/SS 2015 $1,933,334
51 Skuta, Dan OLB/ILB 2017 $1,500,000
93 Williams, Ian NT 2015 $1,458,334
95 Carradine, Tank DE 2016 $1,349,367
23 James, LaMichael RB 2015 $1,055,827
89 McDonald, Vance TE 2016 $1,031,594
78 Looney, Joe LG/C 2015 $772,250
96 Lemonier, Corey OLB 2016 $720,880
11 Patton, Quinton WR 2016 $682,875
38 Lattimore, Marcus RB 2016 $660,146
71 Dial, Quinton DE 2016 $630,413
58 Fleming, Darius ILB/OLB 2015 $626,000
54 Moody, Nick ILB 2016 $611,918
5 Daniels, B.J. QB 2016 $596,628
64 Marquardt, Luke OT 2015 $586,668
47 McDermott, Kevin LS 2015 $586,668
13 Harper, Chris TE 2015 $585,000
44 Debniak, Alex FB 2015 $511,668
67 Kilgore, Daniel C 2016 $1,250,000
49 Miller, Bruce FB 2018 $1,750,000
32 Hunter, Kendall RB 2017 $1,583,333
29 Culliver, Chris CB 2019 $2,350,000
98 Okoye, Lawrence DE 2015 $511,000

Total $119,395,345
Dead $0
Total and Dead $119,395,345
2015 Cap $125,000,000
Cap Space $5,604,655

We would still have $5.6M to get rooks on board.

I did this to show how it is possible to keep everyone around. The only option now, is to get 2014 picks for 2015 signed, we would either need to decide between the extension I did for Iupati, or tag Crabs.

And for 2016 salaries.

# Name Pos. Signed 2016 Salary
7 Kaepernick, Colin QB 2020 $11,500,000
52 Willis, Patrick ILB 2016 $9,466,125
53 Bowman, NaVorro ILB 2018 $8,900,000
55 Brooks, Ahmad OLB 2017 $8,850,000
85 Davis, Vernon TE 2018 $6,363,000
74 Staley, Joe LT 2017 $6,100,000
76 Davis, Anthony RT 2019 $5,150,000
90 Dorsey, Glenn NT/DE 2017 $4,500,000
91 McDonald, Ray DE 2019 $4,419,984
77 Iupati, Mike LG 2019 $4,350,000
21 Gore, Frank RB 2016 $4,215,000
29 Culliver, Chris CB 2019 $3,850,000
82 Manningham, Mario WR 2016 $3,350,000
4 Lee, Andy P 2018 $3,333,000
35 Reid, Eric FS 2016 $2,698,422
49 Miller, Bruce FB 2018 $2,500,000
32 Hunter, Kendall RB 2017 $2,333,333
51 Skuta, Dan OLB/ILB 2017 $2,000,000
95 Carradine, Tank DE 2016 $1,624,262
67 Kilgore, Daniel C 2016 $1,500,000
89 McDonald, Vance TE 2016 $1,195,193
96 Lemonier, Corey OLB 2016 $810,880
11 Patton, Quinton WR 2016 $772,875
38 Lattimore, Marcus RB 2016 $750,146
71 Dial, Quinton DE 2016 $720,413
54 Moody, Nick ILB 2016 $701,918
5 Daniels, B.J. QB 2016 $686,628

Total $102,641,179
Dead $0
Total and Dead $102,641,179
2016 Cap $130,000,000
Cap Space $27,358,821
very good
I like most of it but that's a lot of hoping guys will be willing to restructure. We will see with Manningham, Dorsey, Skuta, not sure they will get re-signed when they up. Dawson I'd start with a 1 year deal if he does well this year. I think you are low money wise for Hunter. He might be able to get more and have a chance to start elsewhere after 2014. I'm all for restructuring Gore after this year but but not sure I'd add on 2015 and a 2016, depends on how low he'd go. Would have to be real low for 2015 and 2016. I'd start with restructuring him for 2014 so he can stay with the team and help us sign some other players. I think he'd be willing to do that. Also, Carlos if we make him a June 1st cut can we take that 2.9x mil and split it over the next 2 years? 2.9x is a lot for one year for dead money considering this year we aren't at that for all players. Hopefully we don't have to cut him and he will re-do his deal and take a huge pay cut. That being said not sure he would because he seems high on himself... not in an extreme way but I think he thinks he is better than he is. We kind of panicked on him after the 2011 season and gave him too much. I would have liked 2-3 years at like 4-5 but his 6 picks skewed his worth and made it 4x7.5ish. We were desperate for CB's though.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Sep 10, 2013 at 7:29 PM ]
thanks paraag
Awesome work... Hope Jed is looking at your potential
Everything looks great except I don't think we resign manning ham at all. No way on that one. Also be will probably not get extended yet and not reduced. Gore will if he takes a pay cut. Aldon will take closer to 14 mil than 12 mil but other than that great projections. I also think brooks might get released to save money. What do you think?
Originally posted by AB83Rules:
http://www.ninercaphell.com/MockFuture.xls

And in black and white.

What I did.

All in 2014

Extended Kap - 6yr $90M extension on top of his last year ($20M signing bonus)
Released Rogers
Extended and reduced Gore
Extended and reduced Vernon Davis
Extended Aldon - 5yr/$60M deal ($12M signing bonus)
Extended and reduced Ray McDonald
Tendered RFA Cox -$1.5M
Tendered EFA Wilhoite -$570K
Re-Signed Boldin - 2yr $10M deal($6M bonus)
Re-Signed Manningham - 3yr $8.275M ($3M bonus, $259K Roster, and $100K workout yearly bonuses)
Re-Signed Dawson - 2yr $3M

2014 Salaries:

# Name Pos. Signed 2014 Salary
76 Davis, Anthony RT 2019 $7,532,266
53 Bowman, NaVorro ILB 2018 $7,050,000
99 Smith, Aldon OLB 2014 $6,976,727
52 Willis, Patrick ILB 2016 $6,909,875
94 Smith, Justin DE 2015 $6,736,666
55 Brooks, Ahmad OLB 2017 $6,500,000
7 Kaepernick, Colin QB 2020 $5,630,457
15 Crabtree, Michael WR 2014 $4,770,443
85 Davis, Vernon TE 2018 $4,285,916
81 Boldin, Anquan WR 2015 $4,000,000
90 Dorsey, Glenn NT/DE 2014 $3,792,500
74 Staley, Joe LT 2017 $3,400,000
77 Iupati, Mike LG 2014 $3,255,863
91 McDonald, Ray DE 2019 $3,126,714
21 Gore, Frank RB 2016 $3,070,000
4 Lee, Andy P 2018 $2,400,000
82 Manningham, Mario WR 2016 $2,075,000
9 Dawson, Phil PK 2015 $2,000,000
35 Reid, Eric FS 2016 $1,927,444
43 Dahl, Craig FS/SS 2015 $1,883,333
75 Boone, Alex RG 2015 $1,740,000
51 Skuta, Dan OLB/ILB 2014 $1,650,000
27 Spillman, C.J. FS/SS 2014 $1,558,333
20 Cox, Perrish CB 2014 $1,500,000
93 Williams, Ian NT 2015 $1,408,333
84 Baldwin, Jon WR 2014 $1,377,765
68 Snyder, Adam RG/RT 2014 $1,300,000
95 Carradine, Tank DE 2016 $1,124,473
23 James, LaMichael RB 2015 $904,968
41 Ventrone, Raymond FS 2014 $855,000
89 McDonald, Vance TE 2016 $817,995
29 Culliver, Chris CB 2014 $794,719
32 Hunter, Kendall RB 2014 $754,805
67 Kilgore, Daniel C 2014 $685,075
78 Looney, Joe LG/C 2015 $676,250
49 Miller, Bruce FB 2014 $660,614
96 Lemonier, Corey OLB 2016 $630,880
11 Patton, Quinton WR 2016 $592,875
88 Celek, Garrett TE 2014 $572,000
38 Lattimore, Marcus RB 2016 $570,146
57 Wilhoite, Michael ILB 2014 $570,000
71 Dial, Quinton DE 2016 $540,413
58 Fleming, Darius ILB/OLB 2015 $536,000
54 Moody, Nick ILB 2016 $521,918
5 Daniels, B.J. QB 2016 $506,628
64 Marquardt, Luke OT 2015 $496,666
47 McDermott, Kevin LS 2015 $496,666
63 Jerod-Eddie, Tony DE 2014 $495,000
56 Stupar, Nate ILB 2014 $495,000
13 Harper, Chris TE 2015 $495,000
44 Debniak, Alex FB 2015 $421,666
98 Okoye, Lawrence DE 2015 $421,000
Carswell, Brandon WR 2014 $420,000

Total and Dead $118,800,885
Total $113,913,392
2014 Cap $124,000,000
Cap Space $5,199,115
Dead Money $4,887,493

Dead Money

Lowell Rose $5,334
A.J. Jenkins $1,745,000
Carlos Rogers $2,989,062
Ricardo Lockette $5,000
D.J. Harper $2,000
Trenton Robinson $55,250
Carter Bykowski $34,422
Marcus Cooper $34,422
Darryl Morris $5,334
Patrick Omameh $2,000
Chuck Jacobs $667
Michael Purcell $2,000
MarQuies Gray $2,667
Jewell Hampton $1,668
Sherman Carter $2,667

Total $4,887,493


We would still have over $5M to use for the draft class.

In 2015.

Franchise WR Crabtree- $10.5M
Re-Sign Mike Iupati - 5yr extension thru 2019, worth $40.5M ($7.5M bonus, $1M roster bonuses yearly)
Retain Dorsey - 2yr deal, worth $7M ($3M bonus)
Retain Skuta - 2 yr deal worth $3.5M ($1M bonus)
Retain Miller - 4yr deal worth $2M a yr
Retain Hunter - 3yr deal worth $2M a yr
Retain Kilgore - 2yr deal worth $2.725M
Retain Culliver - 5yr deal worth $5M a yr
Ahmad Brooks restructures his deal, lowers base salary from $6M, to $1M.
Patrick Willis redoes and extended, new 5yr deal, thru 2020, reduces $7.605M base to $1.605M

2015 Salaries:

# Name Pos. Signed 2015 Salary
15 Crabtree, Michael WR Franchised $10,500,000
52 Willis, Patrick ILB 2020 $4,550,875
85 Davis, Vernon TE 2018 $8,780,916
55 Brooks, Ahmad OLB 2017 $5,016,666
53 Bowman, NaVorro ILB 2018 $7,750,000
7 Kaepernick, Colin QB 2020 $7,500,000
76 Davis, Anthony RT 2019 $6,716,670
91 McDonald, Ray DE 2019 $6,501,714
94 Smith, Justin DE 2015 $6,236,668
81 Boldin, Anquan WR 2015 $6,000,000
74 Staley, Joe LT 2017 $5,200,000
21 Gore, Frank RB 2016 $3,715,000
77 Iupati, Mike LG 2019 $3,380,000
82 Manningham, Mario WR 2016 $2,850,000
4 Lee, Andy P 2018 $2,550,000
90 Dorsey, Glenn NT/DE 2017 $2,500,000
35 Reid, Eric FS 2016 $2,312,933
9 Dawson, Phil PK 2016 $2,000,000
75 Boone, Alex RG 2015 $1,990,000
43 Dahl, Craig FS/SS 2015 $1,933,334
51 Skuta, Dan OLB/ILB 2017 $1,500,000
93 Williams, Ian NT 2015 $1,458,334
95 Carradine, Tank DE 2016 $1,349,367
23 James, LaMichael RB 2015 $1,055,827
89 McDonald, Vance TE 2016 $1,031,594
78 Looney, Joe LG/C 2015 $772,250
96 Lemonier, Corey OLB 2016 $720,880
11 Patton, Quinton WR 2016 $682,875
38 Lattimore, Marcus RB 2016 $660,146
71 Dial, Quinton DE 2016 $630,413
58 Fleming, Darius ILB/OLB 2015 $626,000
54 Moody, Nick ILB 2016 $611,918
5 Daniels, B.J. QB 2016 $596,628
64 Marquardt, Luke OT 2015 $586,668
47 McDermott, Kevin LS 2015 $586,668
13 Harper, Chris TE 2015 $585,000
44 Debniak, Alex FB 2015 $511,668
67 Kilgore, Daniel C 2016 $1,250,000
49 Miller, Bruce FB 2018 $1,750,000
32 Hunter, Kendall RB 2017 $1,583,333
29 Culliver, Chris CB 2019 $2,350,000
98 Okoye, Lawrence DE 2015 $511,000

Total $119,395,345
Dead $0
Total and Dead $119,395,345
2015 Cap $125,000,000
Cap Space $5,604,655

We would still have $5.6M to get rooks on board.

I did this to show how it is possible to keep everyone around. The only option now, is to get 2014 picks for 2015 signed, we would either need to decide between the extension I did for Iupati, or tag Crabs.

And for 2016 salaries.

# Name Pos. Signed 2016 Salary
7 Kaepernick, Colin QB 2020 $11,500,000
52 Willis, Patrick ILB 2016 $9,466,125
53 Bowman, NaVorro ILB 2018 $8,900,000
55 Brooks, Ahmad OLB 2017 $8,850,000
85 Davis, Vernon TE 2018 $6,363,000
74 Staley, Joe LT 2017 $6,100,000
76 Davis, Anthony RT 2019 $5,150,000
90 Dorsey, Glenn NT/DE 2017 $4,500,000
91 McDonald, Ray DE 2019 $4,419,984
77 Iupati, Mike LG 2019 $4,350,000
21 Gore, Frank RB 2016 $4,215,000
29 Culliver, Chris CB 2019 $3,850,000
82 Manningham, Mario WR 2016 $3,350,000
4 Lee, Andy P 2018 $3,333,000
35 Reid, Eric FS 2016 $2,698,422
49 Miller, Bruce FB 2018 $2,500,000
32 Hunter, Kendall RB 2017 $2,333,333
51 Skuta, Dan OLB/ILB 2017 $2,000,000
95 Carradine, Tank DE 2016 $1,624,262
67 Kilgore, Daniel C 2016 $1,500,000
89 McDonald, Vance TE 2016 $1,195,193
96 Lemonier, Corey OLB 2016 $810,880
11 Patton, Quinton WR 2016 $772,875
38 Lattimore, Marcus RB 2016 $750,146
71 Dial, Quinton DE 2016 $720,413
54 Moody, Nick ILB 2016 $701,918
5 Daniels, B.J. QB 2016 $686,628

Total $102,641,179
Dead $0
Total and Dead $102,641,179
2016 Cap $130,000,000
Cap Space $27,358,821

We are definitely on the same page here. It's funny because I was talking to a friend about how I bet Baalke has this all figured out for 2014 and 2015 and I told him I bet we get Colin resigned for 15 million a year and Aldon for just over 10. He didn't believe me on either, going with the what if he wants a Joe Flacco like contract. I personally don't believe either would do that to the team. Our front office, going back to the Mike Nolan days is pretty good about extending guys long before their time is up. I asked him have you ever noticed Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Joe Staley, and Patrick Willis have never hit free agency? The 49ers do not allow such things to happen. Not if the intend on retaining someone. I think we'll get the guys we want extended for a fair value, with a little extra guaranteed money for taking the discount.

I will admit I never thought about the team franchising Crabtree. Hopefully by 2015, it won't be a necessity for us to do this, but it's great that you showed us it is financially feasible to at least hold onto him for one extra season. The other thing is, maybe his value isn't as high considering his injury history. It seems he has Bill Walton's feet/ankles. Another thing, as opposed to outright releasing Carlos Rogers, do you think it's possible that he is traded instead?
Aldon with just 12 million signing.. Seems a little low.
Gore needs to go. Sorry guys.
Originally posted by bigwads:
Gore needs to go. Sorry guys.

Not till Lattimore is ready
Aldon Smith is going to make a lot more money than that. He's the best pass rusher in the league.
Originally posted by elguapo:
Everything looks great except I don't think we resign manning ham at all. No way on that one. Also be will probably not get extended yet and not reduced. Gore will if he takes a pay cut. Aldon will take closer to 14 mil than 12 mil but other than that great projections. I also think brooks might get released to save money. What do you think?

Why not resign Manningham? He would make a great #3 for the right price.

Also Brooks is very underrated. He's an All-Pro linebacker and the star of a linebacking corps on any other team. No reason to let him go. The Carlos Rogers release/cut makes a lot more sense because of salary vs. production.

Also, anyone have any idea if the cap is expected to go up significantly after 2015?
[ Edited by LifelongNiner on Sep 10, 2013 at 8:22 PM ]
AB make this happen.
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Aldon Smith is going to make a lot more money than that. He's the best pass rusher in the league.

That's debatable obviously. Matthews just got around $13/per so I don't think it will be 'a lot' more than that
starters wont reduce their contract

mcdonald is not colt mccoy