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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS ST. LOUIS RAMS GAMEDAY THREAD (Week 4)

Originally posted by SFrush:
Originally posted by crabman82:
Matt Barrows ‏@mattbarrows1m
Harbaugh on WR Jon Baldwin possibly joining the offense: "That's possible. He's doing a good job."
Might as well if the Wr's are struggling against press coverage.

Agreed, use williams or patton as the slot wr! What are odds davis plays thurs? Kinda seems good if healthy for the fact we are 1-2 just domt want em to rush himself back to injury
Originally posted by au8277:
Originally posted by artiga1:
Originally posted by 49ersking:
The 49ers have only one WR = Boldin
He is/will be constantly double teamed going forward. This is except when playing Seattle, when one CB is more than enough.

The 49ers do not have any other good WRs, meaning, any player who can play the position with efficiency. Lining up as a WR and just running around, and constantly being covered by an avg DB (= Colts DBs) does not make one a good WR.

Williams, Baldwin, Moore, Patton are just people lining up at WR at this point.

This team deserves better.

Agreed.

They should make a mid season blockbuster trade...ala the Colts to get Richardson( He didnt play all that well because they just got him but his acquisition energized that team)

Even though Crabs and MM, will be back later in the year, we need that spark on offense NOW. Give up an 2nd or 3rd and get a guy that forces defenses to cover him so Boldin isnt double covered every play
That would satisfy the fans short-term, but realistically, it might not be worth mortgaging the future. Nobody's going to trade a sure-fire #1 (or even a good #2) receiver this early in the season unless he comes with more baggage than the airport pickup carousel. Also, it would take anybody we gave that #1 or #2 pick for ('cause that's what smart teams will charge us) at least several weeks to get up to speed on our tome-like playbook.



You can get away with throwing in a RB on limited practice time/playbook study (just commit to running and don't audible into a pass-protect situation even if the linebackers sneak up), but with receivers, you'd be risking interceptions off miscommunications or worse, the health of the receiver if he isn't 100% certain what he's doing. Lack of assignment understanding can even stunt the run game, but I'm droning…



The point is, the coaches know all this, and with the timeline for Manningham and Crabtree looking like late November - early December (with luck), and our schedule getting rather forgiving after Houston, the staff will like try to put a band-aid on the offense until reinforcements arrive.

Agreed bout the trade, we already made a wr trade this yr! I know so far not a fan fav. We traded for baldwin, he is a big reciever who can beat some of the press coverage! He has the speed, some say has hands of stone, but the stats dont show this what so ever. He has had some success as well in kc! Not probowl numbers but playing wit bowe and not having a qb to throw to you does hurt! I say we give this man a shot! Slide williams and patton at slot and see what works! Take some heat off of boldin, get vernon back and let the d's pick their poison once again!
Originally posted by AZ9er:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AZ9er:
Originally posted by susweel:
Originally posted by AZ9er:
I am too lazy to look it up. Any update as to VD's status for Thurs. And besides Willis being out for sure any other players that may sit out Thurs?

Im too lazy to tell you.

Fair enough, info hoard.

lol

I just dont know.



I hope he can play the team will need him.

This would be a huge plus for us if he can! Get back to .500 come friday be 2-2! Then with 10 days til next game hopefully get willis back, if inj aint to severe!
Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by AZ9er:
I am too lazy to look it up. Any update as to VD's status for Thurs. And besides Willis being out for sure any other players that may sit out Thurs?

Don't know about Davis but Ventrone had a concussion on a punt return block for Williams so he is probably out. With Dahl back there Colts nearly had a block and seemed to get more pressure. Will be tough enough without Willis and Aldon so hopefully VD can play.

Any word on namdi also? Hopefully truman can step in and fill the void, or even cox
Originally posted by au8277:
Bank on Frank and our platoon of RBs (with a probable LaMichael James sighting) getting a collective 35-40 carries Thursday night. The coaching staff undoubtedly game-planned in advance of Thursday, anticipating a short week with only one day for game plan install (Tuesday). But after Sunday's debacle, and taking into account they're traveling to what will likely be another tough, indoor environment against a division foe that isn't afraid of us in the least...we'll definitely be packing a smash mouth running game and simplified defensive game plan for this road trip.

I prognosticate a low-scoring, hard-hitting affair, that we take by a very slim margin. Gore will top 125 yds. Hunter will bust at least one run that will have the Zone begging for him to take over as starter. The platoon of situational pass-rushers will prove adequate, if unspectacular as a stopgap for Aldon's missing pass rush, and though nobody will think this past Sunday was a fluke afterward, things will stabilize a bit in Ninerland.

20-17, SF. Go Niners.

Will take it! Look for lemonoir to have a great game :)
Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Originally posted by hofer36:
Originally posted by qnnhan7:
Get the ball to Kyle Williams. Some on the Zone have been contending that he's our deep threat.

he got open deep vs packers and the pass was underthrown

Haven't done anything of significant in the last 2 games. At this point he's not a deep threat, he's not even a reliable receiver.

Williams dropped a 3rd down catch. Yeah it was a hard throw but Boldin would have caught that. Who knows, keeping that drive going would have lead to something positive.

True we had a few key drops on 3rd which led to punts! Things will start going our way...
Friday niners 2-2
Goniners
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by au8277:
Originally posted by artiga1:
Originally posted by 49ersking:
The 49ers have only one WR = Boldin
He is/will be constantly double teamed going forward. This is except when playing Seattle, when one CB is more than enough.

The 49ers do not have any other good WRs, meaning, any player who can play the position with efficiency. Lining up as a WR and just running around, and constantly being covered by an avg DB (= Colts DBs) does not make one a good WR.

Williams, Baldwin, Moore, Patton are just people lining up at WR at this point.

This team deserves better.

Agreed.

They should make a mid season blockbuster trade...ala the Colts to get Richardson( He didnt play all that well because they just got him but his acquisition energized that team)

Even though Crabs and MM, will be back later in the year, we need that spark on offense NOW. Give up an 2nd or 3rd and get a guy that forces defenses to cover him so Boldin isnt double covered every play
That would satisfy the fans short-term, but realistically, it might not be worth mortgaging the future. Nobody's going to trade a sure-fire #1 (or even a good #2) receiver this early in the season unless he comes with more baggage than the airport pickup carousel. Also, it would take anybody we gave that #1 or #2 pick for ('cause that's what smart teams will charge us) at least several weeks to get up to speed on our tome-like playbook.



You can get away with throwing in a RB on limited practice time/playbook study (just commit to running and don't audible into a pass-protect situation even if the linebackers sneak up), but with receivers, you'd be risking interceptions off miscommunications or worse, the health of the receiver if he isn't 100% certain what he's doing. Lack of assignment understanding can even stunt the run game, but I'm droning…



The point is, the coaches know all this, and with the timeline for Manningham and Crabtree looking like late November - early December (with luck), and our schedule getting rather forgiving after Houston, the staff will like try to put a band-aid on the offense until reinforcements arrive.

Agreed bout the trade, we already made a wr trade this yr! I know so far not a fan fav. We traded for baldwin, he is a big reciever who can beat some of the press coverage! He has the speed, some say has hands of stone, but the stats dont show this what so ever. He has had some success as well in kc! Not probowl numbers but playing wit bowe and not having a qb to throw to you does hurt! I say we give this man a shot! Slide williams and patton at slot and see what works! Take some heat off of boldin, get vernon back and let the d's pick their poison once again!

Our passing offense is primarily Boldin, VD and Crabtree at full strength. Two out of those three are out, so we are running at 33%. Meanwhile, sure, why not give the others a chance...what is there to lose anyways. Better to have tried and lost than not try at all.

There is something obviously/seriously wrong with the team right now...the 49ers are not supposed to lose by these large margins. The coaching has to be questioned, everything has to be questioned before it's too late to change anything.
We have a Coach of the year, Executive of the year, and an owner who has a lot of common sense. That's the only thing going for the team right now.
Originally posted by frankie:
Originally posted by au8277:
Originally posted by artiga1:
Originally posted by 49ersking:
The 49ers have only one WR = Boldin
He is/will be constantly double teamed going forward. This is except when playing Seattle, when one CB is more than enough.

The 49ers do not have any other good WRs, meaning, any player who can play the position with efficiency. Lining up as a WR and just running around, and constantly being covered by an avg DB (= Colts DBs) does not make one a good WR.

Williams, Baldwin, Moore, Patton are just people lining up at WR at this point.

This team deserves better.

Agreed.

They should make a mid season blockbuster trade...ala the Colts to get Richardson( He didnt play all that well because they just got him but his acquisition energized that team)

Even though Crabs and MM, will be back later in the year, we need that spark on offense NOW. Give up an 2nd or 3rd and get a guy that forces defenses to cover him so Boldin isnt double covered every play
That would satisfy the fans short-term, but realistically, it might not be worth mortgaging the future. Nobody's going to trade a sure-fire #1 (or even a good #2) receiver this early in the season unless he comes with more baggage than the airport pickup carousel. Also, it would take anybody we gave that #1 or #2 pick for ('cause that's what smart teams will charge us) at least several weeks to get up to speed on our tome-like playbook.



You can get away with throwing in a RB on limited practice time/playbook study (just commit to running and don't audible into a pass-protect situation even if the linebackers sneak up), but with receivers, you'd be risking interceptions off miscommunications or worse, the health of the receiver if he isn't 100% certain what he's doing. Lack of assignment understanding can even stunt the run game, but I'm droning…



The point is, the coaches know all this, and with the timeline for Manningham and Crabtree looking like late November - early December (with luck), and our schedule getting rather forgiving after Houston, the staff will like try to put a band-aid on the offense until reinforcements arrive.

Agreed bout the trade, we already made a wr trade this yr! I know so far not a fan fav. We traded for baldwin, he is a big reciever who can beat some of the press coverage! He has the speed, some say has hands of stone, but the stats dont show this what so ever. He has had some success as well in kc! Not probowl numbers but playing wit bowe and not having a qb to throw to you does hurt! I say we give this man a shot! Slide williams and patton at slot and see what works! Take some heat off of boldin, get vernon back and let the d's pick their poison once again!
I agree wholeheartedly. Harbaugh and his staff seem really rigid about playing time being earned by later-round draft picks and/or traded players. I'm sure they don't want to 'throw things against the wall and see what sticks' but Baldwin's size/speed combination might be enough to at least coax defenses into backing off a bit and create some underneath soft spots for Boldin or McDonald.
If Nnamdi's injury is anything more than very minor, I think he's out this week. With that, our active defensive players for this week would likely be:

DL: Justin, Dorsey, McDonald, Jerod-Eddie, Dobbs
OLB: Lemonier, Brooks, Skuta
ILB: Bowman, Wilhoite, Stupar
CB: Brown, Rogers, Brock, Cox
S: Reid, Whitner, Dahl, Spillman

That's 19 players. Gee... Not a whole lot of depth there. Wish we still had Parys and/or Cam Johnson.
We beat jrg's team, 41-0
The Ram's passrush will eat us alive.
Originally posted by Byisgod:
The Ram's passrush will eat us alive.

more Hunter draws up the middle?
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35-13 Niners
31-10 rams

Thinking about Patrick Willis' groin and it's making me uncomfortable.