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Preseason 2013 - Week 3: Thoughts after rewatching the game...

Yeah wilhoite is a keeper! After seeing his play yesterday I wouldn't mind Willis sitting out the first game if need be.
Originally posted by crabman82:
thanks Marv, was wondering your thoughts on Looney's play on Kevin Williams. I thought he came off as a cheap little b***h myself.


Yeah....didn't like it at all. I'll usually come to a Niner players defense...but that one wasn't defensable. Totally uncalled for.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Aug 26, 2013 at 8:29 AM ]
Originally posted by 9erReign:
Hawkins penalty nullified his TD? Umm no it didn't.


I didn't mean it nullified the play...I meant it nullified he positive play in the eyes of a coaches. Great play followed by a stupifd penalty.
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:
Pretty sure he meant 'overshadowed it'


Correct.
Agree with all the points on the original post, though gotta admit I don't think McCoy is the answer at number 2 (he throws a pick every time he plays!) and I was a little concerned at Kap's slow start. Those passes, esp at the receivers' feet reminded me of Alex. Then he caught fire and all was well with the world.
Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Agree with all the points on the original post, though gotta admit I don't think McCoy is the answer at number 2 (he throws a pick every time he plays!) and I was a little concerned at Kap's slow start. Those passes, esp at the receivers' feet reminded me of Alex. Then he caught fire and all was well with the world.


Only one of those passes was low. It happens so seldom with Kaep tho that it makes you wonder "woah, what happened there?".

Some of that "slow start" was a product of good play on the other side of the ball....pressure forcing a throw away, a shut down screen, a DE hiting Kaeps hand as he threw and 2 tipped passes. Sometimes you just have to take your hat off to the guys on the other side of the ball. They get paid too and the Vikings have some good players up front on D.
[ Edited by Marvin49 on Aug 26, 2013 at 8:37 AM ]
Originally posted by RishikeshA:
Michael Wilhoite is a keeper. He's worked his way up through the practice squad and is a good replacement at inside linebacker. Cowboy looked nasty, he's poised for a monster year. It's going to be interesting to see how many players cut by the Niners are resigned around the league. I would imagine many.

I really like his play as well, but I can't help but look at him and think performance enhancing drugs.
Brooks looked like a man that wanted to keep 96 on the bench. Like Justin, he is playing dominant football.
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This is the first i am ever hearing a comparison of Jon Baldwin to Calvin Johnson (a better comparison physically would be Brandon Marshall). While 1st round picks always have high exceptions, he was still the 26th pick and 3rd WR taken. He still has the measurable's to be a top wr and if he can develop here a Patton/Baldwin combo could be explosive for this team and could make Crabtree expendable.
Marvin, have you keyed in on the backup S's at all? I know it's so hard with a regular broadcast. Who do you like... Robinson, Thomas, Ventrone or go with 4 guys. Spillman and Dahl can backup both spots so I wouldn't have a problem with 4 if they don't think any of those 3 are worthy of a spot.

I haven't rewatched it yet but you guys touched on everything. Justin looked like his 2011 version. The guy is just chomping at the bit to get back to regular season play. Like I figured Patton and McDonald would come in day 1 and contribute; if McDonald can work on his hands won't be long before he replaced Walker to the fullest. By the end of the year should be able to do most of the things Walker did. I was happy with the Baldwin trade. Think we got the better end of the deal but hopefully it works out for both players. We didn't have any more time for Jenkins, they do. I said after last pre-season watch out for Wilhoite he looked good and said he had a chance to make the team next year. He looks awesome. Like I said last week Wilhoite is a lock for 3 and Moody will be 4. BJ Daniels has show more in 2 drives then Tolzien did in 3 pre seasons. He is making throws that Tolzien can't and he's leading TD drives which Tolzien really didn't do. Can't wait until Dial and Carradine are at full strength. Hopefully they play well and boot Dobbs and especially Tukuafu off the roster. A few pre seasons ago I keyed in on Tukuafu and he showed a lot of hustle; seems to half ass it out there now. Maybe he's happy to have made it in the nfl... maybe his spot is secure so he isn't worried as much as he should be. Either way hopefully between Dial, Carradine and a draft pick next year we won't have to worry about re-signing Demarcus or Will.

Edit: Mentioned this a week plus ago but Moore seems like the WR we wanted out of Ginn. He is very similar to him but is like an inch taller and 5ish pounds bigger. Looks to have better hands and not be afraid to go over the middle.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Aug 26, 2013 at 9:23 AM ]
Originally posted by Jcool:
This is the first i am ever hearing a comparison of Jon Baldwin to Calvin Johnson (a better comparison physically would be Brandon Marshall). While 1st round picks always have high exceptions, he was still the 26th pick and 3rd WR taken. He still has the measurable's to be a top wr and if he can develop here a Patton/Baldwin combo could be explosive for this team and could make Crabtree expendable.

given our lack of success at WR, let's first hope for a successful Crabtree return and a good stable of WRs:

Crabtree
Boldin
Manningham
Baldwin
Patton
Williams

That's a pretty strong WR corp (when healthy). But even waiting until Crabs and Ham get healthy, my concern level has decreased...
Anthony Davis did not have a good game the first couple of drives. He gave up a lot of pressure.
Hawkins' punk character likely gets him cut and rightfully so.

Looney is now under a microscope.

Not liking McCoy like I did, I would play Daniels before him.

I think Tolzein surprisingly stays since he knows the playbook, Seattle would pick him up right away because of it, and he's just as good as McCoy.

2nd string Oline might as well be playing in the WNBA.

Everyone else looked fantastic.
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Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Originally posted by Jcool:
This is the first i am ever hearing a comparison of Jon Baldwin to Calvin Johnson (a better comparison physically would be Brandon Marshall). While 1st round picks always have high exceptions, he was still the 26th pick and 3rd WR taken. He still has the measurable's to be a top wr and if he can develop here a Patton/Baldwin combo could be explosive for this team and could make Crabtree expendable.

given our lack of success at WR, let's first hope for a successful Crabtree return and a good stable of WRs:

Crabtree
Boldin
Manningham
Baldwin
Patton
Williams

That's a pretty strong WR corp (when healthy). But even waiting until Crabs and Ham get healthy, my concern level has decreased...

Don't get me wrong I hope Crabtree comes back strong... I just mean when it comes to a new contract, might not have to worry about paying him big money.
The bad thing about McCoy is that he gets the jitters pretty fast in the pocket and doesnt keep his eyes up to see the receivers when he scrambles. He missed some pretty easy check downs yesterday.

And LOL at people still not including Moore in their receiver roster, dude isnt going anywhere so get used to writing his name on the WR depth chart.