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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS SEATTLE SEAHAWKS GAMEDAY THREAD (Week 2)
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM
- hofer36
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boy those guys were really pissed about losing chris harper
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM
- xcfan
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sherman: great corner
thurmond: very talented corner. would've been a high draft pick if he didn't have a bad knee. better all-around corner than browner.
chancellor: super-solid, big safety.
thomas: baller.
thurmond: very talented corner. would've been a high draft pick if he didn't have a bad knee. better all-around corner than browner.
chancellor: super-solid, big safety.
thomas: baller.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by valrod33:
Wow.Seattle whipped us fair and square. Kaep played like Kraep.
I agree. There are no excuses. We played poorly. They played well. We lost.
Two games down and fourteen more to go.
Fix the penalties--and do it right now.
Definitely need to do that but it has almost been a signature of this Harbaugh team. Singletary's last year, as bad as it was, this team was 15th in the league in penalties. Under Harbaugh it has been one of the 5 MOST penalized teams in the league, and is on a path to be at or near the top again. That is a major flaw in Harbaugh's coaching package.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:22 PM
- father49er
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by father49er:
Seattle seems to have the 49er's numbers. This is the first time I see 49ers D-line get pushed around - even in the nickle. The 9ers got beat at the line on both sides of the ball. No tricks or gimmicks.
Our defense showed up dude. They played a great 1st half. The flood gates opened up in the 2nd half when our offense continued to s**t bricks. I don't blame the D for breaking, they were put in s**tty situations all game.
I'm not saying the D didn't play a good game, just the D line got pushed around. Even in the first half, the hawks were getting 3 yard pushes on runs. I rarely see this happen to the 9ers run D.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM
- robniner
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I don't think Kaep will be hugging anybody who lost their fantasy football matchup this week.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM
- SofaKing
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Originally posted by hofer36:
boy those guys were really pissed about losing chris harper
lol..had we known we would have let them keep him!
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:23 PM
- xcfan
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ian williams will be gone for the year. that was a massive dislocation and break. it's over.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM
- eonblue
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Originally posted by bzborow1:
Seattle just beat up the 49ers and they deserve credit. Noise didn't seem like it was as much a factor as in past games to be honest, the 49ers just got beat up on offense tonight. Gore looks incredibly slow out there but it is hard to pin much on him yet as the o-line just wasn't able to open up any holes. I don't know if that's scheme or if they just got beat in their assignments.
I think people need to lay off Sherman, the guy is a beast.
Given the "fish out of water" look of the offense tonight, I'm almost wondering if the problem was scheme. What they were doing just wasn't putting anybody in positions to succeed. One example from a layman might be the complete absence of bunching receivers.
49ers management/coaching staff are going to be busy this week.
Alot of good point here.
First and I'll probably get flamed for this but I sure hope Gore isn't losing his last step. One play in particular. The 2nd RZ possession. He found the gap after he hit it there was some traffic. An explosive back would've done just that. Exploded. Gore just loses waaay to much speed after his initial cut. We need more acceleration in between the tackles.Maybe it was just a bad game. Why wasn't hunter in?
Second Yes Sherman is a beast but he's also a cocky a*****e. He thinks "OOOO were so mistreated" "no one thinks were good". Yea right. Whatever. The entire media jocks on their nuts. Give it up and stop comparing yourseld to Revis.
The problem was the scheme. We just pounded the rock into a wall. We didn't spread it out. We reilied on Moore, Patton, and Wlliams to create seperation against the best secondary in the league. Not to mention barely in bunch WRs and barely in spread formation. Dumb. Just dumb.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM
- GEEK
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What was Harbaugh and Roman's obsession to utilize Bruce Miller in the passing game? There's a reason why traditional FBs are a rare breed in the NFL...especially when you opted for him instead of Vance McDonald.
The play-calling was atrocious, and Kaepernick made horrible, Jay Cutler-like, decisions in the game.
Reality check time.
The play-calling was atrocious, and Kaepernick made horrible, Jay Cutler-like, decisions in the game.
Reality check time.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:24 PM
- kray28
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The defense eventually wore out, and the lapses started to mount...then the mental errors and the stupid fouls started happening. With the offense, the problem starts with the line I think. They aren't controlling the line of scrimmage on run plays. Easy holes for Gore just aren't there. Not sure what the problem is, but it needs to be fixed because without the balance of a good running game we won't be able to win much.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM
- ECLaloosh
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Originally posted by bzborow1:
Given the "fish out of water" look of the offense tonight, I'm almost wondering if the problem was scheme. What they were doing just wasn't putting anybody in positions to succeed. One example from a layman might be the complete absence of bunching receivers.
Was shocked not to see this tonight as well. Carolina didn't go off but they (and other teams) have shown that using those bunch formations is pretty helpful against that press coverage.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:25 PM
- xcfan
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the fact that it's legal to hit ankles in a direction that only allows the ankle to break or be injured, is absurd.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM
- dj43
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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by dj43:
HaRo have no answer for Seattle's gap-based defense. They have seen it 5 times and they still make no adjustments. You can't block for the run if you can't get an angle on the defenders. You might bull doze someone out of the hole on occasion but you won't make a living doing it. Mangini needs to step up and show Jim why his offense can't run the ball against it.
Which is why I don't understand why Hunter didn't get any action. I love Frank to death, but we need to mix in Hunter because he has more burst to attack those gaps before they close. At least for a change of pace. We only run Hunter to the edges, and Seattle sniffed that out with ease on his first play. Too obvious.
The problem is, Seattle lines up a defender in every run gap. It doesn't matter who the running back is, he can't run where there is no hole.
The only way you get Seattle out of that defense is to put a group of good pass receivers in a spread formation and force them to move one of those 8 guys back out of the box.
Last year the Seahawks spread the field, forcing the 49ers to defend the space, and then ran Lynch up the open gaps. They did pretty much the same thing again tonight.
Not really. There is a way but it would be difficult. It would require our OL to zone block for two games a year.
Zone blocking would work but not when the OL is outmanned the way Seattle does it. They kept 8 men on the LOS at what seemed like 95% of the time. Sooner or later, you have to force them out of putting 8 men in the box.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM
- DeHubb
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49ers need a WR that can stretch the field. when a team has a def that can pass rush and your secondary doesnt have to worry bout a deep threat to stretch the DBs out to make room for open spots in coverage. It will be tough for any offense to operate.. Baalk as to find a deep threat... 49ers has too many WRs that are similar in style none of which are down field threats.
Sep 15, 2013 at 10:26 PM
- Pillbusta
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I cannot wait to see the press conferences and body language after this contest. I want to see how we respond because with the schedule we got we can end up 7 - 1 at the bye