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SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS VS SEATTLE SEAHAWKS GAMEDAY THREAD (Week 2)

  • cciowa
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Originally posted by eonblue:
No our defense is stud. The 1st half was a beautiful display of pass rushing. The CBs had great coverage and were f**king blowing guys up. Not to mention we have Carradine and Dial coming back in. Also Dorsey was a stud tonight. At least at the beginning. He was taking on double teams and holding point. He also got a sack when singled. They just got tired. It was really unfair to them because they were the shining star in the darkest night.
agree,, no issues with defense cept for two drive extending penalties .those things i just pass off as frustration heat of the moment things,, but those guys should have known better. hope reid comes back sunday but as blue said,, no problem till the end when the impotence of the offense finally caught up with our defense. we did tackle much better tonight than last sunday in my opinion and that is good to see. we just can not allow them on the field that much
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
not quite possibly, they do have the best secondary. Along with the best D
Our dline is better and our CBs held their own. We just clearly and miserable couldnt match up against their secondary. WE have to keep Crab. I'm sorry it may not be cheap but he's a centerpiece for Kaep.
  • dj43
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by dj43:
HaRo have no answer for Seattle's gap-based defense. They have seen it 5 times and they still make no adjustments. You can't block for the run if you can't get an angle on the defenders. You might bull doze someone out of the hole on occasion but you won't make a living doing it. Mangini needs to step up and show Jim why his offense can't run the ball against it.

Which is why I don't understand why Hunter didn't get any action. I love Frank to death, but we need to mix in Hunter because he has more burst to attack those gaps before they close. At least for a change of pace. We only run Hunter to the edges, and Seattle sniffed that out with ease on his first play. Too obvious.

The problem is, Seattle lines up a defender in every run gap. It doesn't matter who the running back is, he can't run where there is no hole.

The only way you get Seattle out of that defense is to put a group of good pass receivers in a spread formation and force them to move one of those 8 guys back out of the box.

Last year the Seahawks spread the field, forcing the 49ers to defend the space, and then ran Lynch up the open gaps. They did pretty much the same thing again tonight.
Originally posted by buck:
I agree. There are no excuses. We played poorly. They played well. We lost.

Two games down and fourteen more to go.

Fix the penalties--and do it right now.

THIS!!! so many freaking penalties, so many damn rules I realize that, but c'mon! we are soo much better than this there is no reason a team of our cliber needs to be this penalized and we have only ourselves and the coaching to blame.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by dj43:
HaRo have no answer for Seattle's gap-based defense. They have seen it 5 times and they still make no adjustments. You can't block for the run if you can't get an angle on the defenders. You might bull doze someone out of the hole on occasion but you won't make a living doing it. Mangini needs to step up and show Jim why his offense can't run the ball against it.

Which is why I don't understand why Hunter didn't get any action. I love Frank to death, but we need to mix in Hunter because he has more burst to attack those gaps before they close. At least for a change of pace. We only run Hunter to the edges, and Seattle sniffed that out with ease on his first play. Too obvious.

The problem is, Seattle lines up a defender in every run gap. It doesn't matter who the running back is, he can't run where there is no hole.

The only way you get Seattle out of that defense is to put a group of good pass receivers in a spread formation and force them to move one of those 8 guys back out of the box.

Last year the Seahawks spread the field, forcing the 49ers to defend the space, and then ran Lynch up the open gaps. They did pretty much the same thing again tonight.

Like ATL did because they have Roddy and Julio
To be honest, the offensive game plan was completely opposite from what I expected. I thought this would be the game where we rely more on the running game, using Gore, Hunter, and Dixon. I'm beginning to think that's the thing of the past now, and 49ers are just a spread/option team.
Seattle seems to have the 49er's numbers. This is the first time I see 49ers D-line get pushed around - even in the nickle. The 9ers got beat at the line on both sides of the ball. No tricks or gimmicks.
Originally posted by eonblue:
Originally posted by monsterzero789:
not quite possibly, they do have the best secondary. Along with the best D
Our dline is better and our CBs held their own. We just clearly and miserable couldnt match up against their secondary. WE have to keep Crab. I'm sorry it may not be cheap but he's a centerpiece for Kaep.

thats great that our dline is better, or that we have all pro LBs. But the stats show they are the best D since last year
I'm worried about Gore

2 games, 60 yards

I wanted to ease into Lattimore but another 2 games like this and they will say he is done.
No mojo. You could feel it right away.

Off day for everybody.
Originally posted by verb1der:
To be honest, the offensive game plan was completely opposite from what I expected. I thought this would be the game where we rely more on the running game, using Gore, Hunter, and Dixon. I'm beginning to think that's the thing of the past now, and 49ers are just a spread/option team.

wont break .500 if that is the idea
Originally posted by father49er:
Seattle seems to have the 49er's numbers. This is the first time I see 49ers D-line get pushed around - even in the nickle. The 9ers got beat at the line on both sides of the ball. No tricks or gimmicks.

Our defense showed up dude. They played a great 1st half. The flood gates opened up in the 2nd half when our offense continued to s**t bricks. I don't blame the D for breaking, they were put in s**tty situations all game.
Originally posted by father49er:
Seattle seems to have the 49er's numbers. This is the first time I see 49ers D-line get pushed around - even in the nickle. The 9ers got beat at the line on both sides of the ball. No tricks or gimmicks.

the d line actually played well for 3 quarters, our offense was so completely inept it was a matter of time before they poured it on
our team got our asses handed to them BAD.


But for the first time in a while, the D played rather well. I'm still waiting for them to dominate a team...but this may be a good start.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by dj43:
HaRo have no answer for Seattle's gap-based defense. They have seen it 5 times and they still make no adjustments. You can't block for the run if you can't get an angle on the defenders. You might bull doze someone out of the hole on occasion but you won't make a living doing it. Mangini needs to step up and show Jim why his offense can't run the ball against it.

Which is why I don't understand why Hunter didn't get any action. I love Frank to death, but we need to mix in Hunter because he has more burst to attack those gaps before they close. At least for a change of pace. We only run Hunter to the edges, and Seattle sniffed that out with ease on his first play. Too obvious.

The problem is, Seattle lines up a defender in every run gap. It doesn't matter who the running back is, he can't run where there is no hole.

The only way you get Seattle out of that defense is to put a group of good pass receivers in a spread formation and force them to move one of those 8 guys back out of the box.

Last year the Seahawks spread the field, forcing the 49ers to defend the space, and then ran Lynch up the open gaps. They did pretty much the same thing again tonight.

Not really. There is a way but it would be difficult. It would require our OL to zone block for two games a year.
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