AS could very easily have been 1st round talent (possibly even #1 overall talent) if he went to GB instead of SF....sat behind Favre for a few years, learning under McCarthy. Just look at what Flynn did in a couple of games.
Green Bay was the absolute best situation for a QB in that year's draft. AR not only had a lot of innate talent, but the best scenario possible.....and now it's clear why he's the #1 QB in the league.
Another thing somebody mentioned to me recently is that AS as a rookie in 2013 would have been very interesting.....a spread guy with some pistol experience would have been valuable today as opposed to 2005. The timing of Kaepernick couldn't have been any better.
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Aug 20, 2013 at 1:43 PM
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Aug 20, 2013 at 1:52 PM
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Can I combine K Blamer and Chilo as one pick?
Aug 20, 2013 at 1:59 PM
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Gio Carmazzi. Picked him up in the 3rd and Rattay in the 7th. Missed on Brady. Rattay eventually started once Garcia left. Carmazzi barely played at all and was out of the league after one year. Major wiff by Bill Walsh.
Aug 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM
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Todd Shell, Dexter Carter and J.J. Stokes played and made some contribution. You might consider Steve Spurrier also. Going back a ways, but drafted in the first round, I believe, after winning the Heisman Trophy as a potential successor to John Brody. My dad and uncle said the guy could not throw a spiral and never did squat. Turned out to be a pretty successful coach, though.
Aug 20, 2013 at 2:07 PM
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Originally posted by GoalLineStand:
Lance Alworth. 8th pick in the first round of the 1962 NFL draft by the 49ers. He was also picked by the Raiders in the 1962 AFL draft who then traded his rights to the San Diego Chargers where he went on to have a Hall of Fame career.
First round pick of the 49ers but never wore a 49ers uniform but still in the Hall of Fame.
That added an interesting level of complexity when there were competing football leagues with the AFL and USFL. Even if you evaluate a guy correctly, you still might not land him after spending the pick. Lance Alworth as a 49er would have been sweet.
Aug 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM
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mike rumph?
Aug 20, 2013 at 2:22 PM
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Originally posted by socalniner:
Originally posted by davide49:
Originally posted by BayArea:
That is kind of the point of this thread. If we are going to go through every excuse imaginable there are almost infinite amounts of worthless players drafted that contributed much less than Alex did. In terms of YOUR worst niner draft pick though Alex is viable. He was a high profile pick that was supposed to be the answer and regardless of the circumstances he wasn't. I feel like I am beating a dead horse but that pick stuck with me for a lot longer than most on this list.
Don't get me wrong I like Alex and LOVED him under Harbaugh but that was a bad pick. Even if the team was in disarray it was the wrong guy at the wrong time.
So we should have picked someone else in the top 5 then? Who? Go look at that draft and tell me anyone stands out, because NONE of them did.
We had the #1 pick in one of the worst drafts in the past 20 years. It was a no-win situation. Given a good supporting cast and a legitimate coaching staff, Alex would have been successful throughout his tenure here.
There were a bunch of us here that wanted AR. And Alex had pretty good offensive coordinators in the beginning.
That's nice but as good a talent evaluator as you are you weren't running an NFL team and NO TEAM would have taken him #1. He went #24 for a reason.
Aug 20, 2013 at 2:49 PM
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Originally posted by davide49:
Originally posted by socalniner:
Originally posted by davide49:
Originally posted by BayArea:
That is kind of the point of this thread. If we are going to go through every excuse imaginable there are almost infinite amounts of worthless players drafted that contributed much less than Alex did. In terms of YOUR worst niner draft pick though Alex is viable. He was a high profile pick that was supposed to be the answer and regardless of the circumstances he wasn't. I feel like I am beating a dead horse but that pick stuck with me for a lot longer than most on this list.
Don't get me wrong I like Alex and LOVED him under Harbaugh but that was a bad pick. Even if the team was in disarray it was the wrong guy at the wrong time.
So we should have picked someone else in the top 5 then? Who? Go look at that draft and tell me anyone stands out, because NONE of them did.
We had the #1 pick in one of the worst drafts in the past 20 years. It was a no-win situation. Given a good supporting cast and a legitimate coaching staff, Alex would have been successful throughout his tenure here.
There were a bunch of us here that wanted AR. And Alex had pretty good offensive coordinators in the beginning.
That's nice but as good a talent evaluator as you are you weren't running an NFL team and NO TEAM would have taken him #1. He went #24 for a reason.
It's true that hindsight is always 20/20. But one thing is that we all knew that the 49ers were most likely going to take a QB with the first overall pick. The question was whether it would be Aaron Rodgers or Alex Smith. After that, however, most teams either didn't need a QB or didn't think that the 2005 QB class was that impressive. If we had picked AR with the first pick, who knows how far Alex would have dropped. He could very well have been a 2nd round pick. In any case, I remember people saying that the 2006 QB draft class was going to be much better and that we therefore should have picked Braylon Edwards with the first pick and then waited until 2006 to pick Matt Leinart. The only player out of the 2006 class still starting today is Jay Cutler. So in hindsight, 2005 turned out to be better than 2006 in terms of QB talent.
Aug 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM
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Pierson Prioleau and Anthony Parker
Aug 20, 2013 at 3:22 PM
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Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Originally posted by susweel:
Alex Smith should be on that list. His suckage and then his mediocrity was just good enough to keep him around for 8 years but his talent was never even close to being the #1 overall pick. The amount of time and effort they wasted on him kept the organization from moving on to someone else.
One thing is for sure the current administration would have moved on much quicker.
Granted Smith should not have been a number one pick, but your bias is blinding you. He was unfairly thrust into a situation no one should have endured, with unrealistic expectations and virtually no supporting cast and poor guidance. Add all those offenses and coordinators and all the pressure from the media and fans (such as yourself) and you have a certain formula for, if not failure, then at least unrealized performance. Give the poor guy a break. He doesn't even compare to such picks as Druckenmiller. Woods, Stokes (who cost us all those draft picks), Balmer, Jenkins, the list goes on.
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Gotta be Gio Carmazzi, because they took him instead of Tom Brady.
seems legit
Aug 20, 2013 at 3:24 PM
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Originally posted by BayArea:
Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Originally posted by susweel:
Alex Smith should be on that list. His suckage and then his mediocrity was just good enough to keep him around for 8 years but his talent was never even close to being the #1 overall pick. The amount of time and effort they wasted on him kept the organization from moving on to someone else.
One thing is for sure the current administration would have moved on much quicker.
Granted Smith should not have been a number one pick, but your bias is blinding you. He was unfairly thrust into a situation no one should have endured, with unrealistic expectations and virtually no supporting cast and poor guidance. Add all those offenses and coordinators and all the pressure from the media and fans (such as yourself) and you have a certain formula for, if not failure, then at least unrealized performance. Give the poor guy a break. He doesn't even compare to such picks as Druckenmiller. Woods, Stokes (who cost us all those draft picks), Balmer, Jenkins, the list goes on.
That is kind of the point of this thread. If we are going to go through every excuse imaginable there are almost infinite amounts of worthless players drafted that contributed much less than Alex did. In terms of YOUR worst niner draft pick though Alex is viable. He was a high profile pick that was supposed to be the answer and regardless of the circumstances he wasn't. I feel like I am beating a dead horse but that pick stuck with me for a lot longer than most on this list.
Don't get me wrong I like Alex and LOVED him under Harbaugh but that was a bad pick. Even if the team was in disarray it was the wrong guy at the wrong time.
There are "excuses" and there are "reasons", and not all the latter are the former. Sounds like a verse for a song. LOL. I was an Alex sceptic for a long time and still don't think he deserved to be the first pick, but to say he was the worst pick we've made? Sorry, no can do. Too many others, IMHO who were worse in that they brought NO value to the team and just occupied valuable roster spots. In addition, they were brought into favorable conditions that were more conducive to their personal success and STILL failed miserably!
Aug 20, 2013 at 3:25 PM
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lol, i like that aj jenkins is #1 in the poll. he cant even catch a break
Aug 20, 2013 at 3:49 PM
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Lol
Aug 20, 2013 at 3:55 PM
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AJ Jenkins is the worst as I have stated in another thread. Zero productivity his rookie year and dumped shortly after. Very seldom does a franchise give up on a 1st rounder after one year. He was so bad the coaches did even see a glimmer of hope. And even worse he was on a cheap rookie contract. As my high school football coach used to say, "He's about as worthless as two dead flies!" Lol
Aug 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
IMO, I couldn't say Drunckenmiller cause he actually won a game for the 9ers. And no, I won't say AJ Jenkins, jury is still out on him, he fits Reids offense and just may turn it around. So my vote goes to Rashaun Woods, Vince Wilfork there for the taking....twice, and Donahue oh Donahue takes this scrub!!! The pain still stings, Ian Williams is the only cure.
This dude! You listen to him!