Originally posted by Aussie49ah:Glenn coffee. Guy didn't even wanna play football that's a horrible draft pick from top to bottom.
Would be my pick as well
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Originally posted by Aussie49ah:Glenn coffee. Guy didn't even wanna play football that's a horrible draft pick from top to bottom.
Originally posted by defenderDX:
all I said was this?
did you just say that?Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:Originally posted by English:Stokes.
He was a so-so player who played for a few years and didn't do too bad. He had the value of a mid range pick, say a 4th rounder.
But he cost us TWO first rounders, both, iirc, mid-to-high.
All the others only cost is one. And a late one in most cases.
He indirectly cost us Lombardi #6 if you consider that the '96 draft pick we sent to Cleveland (who became the Ravens) to get Stokes was used by Baltimore to draft Ray Lewis....
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
Would be my pick as well
Originally posted by cciowa:and before people get nuts,,, i am sure juicy does not HATE the front office or want other people back. It is very ok to question the front office on moves like this but still be supportive. If i put words in juicys mouth, i am sorry. i hate jenkins but you are right,, it was not his fault he was picked that high as i am sure it came as a pleasant shock to him
Originally posted by davide49:
Originally posted by defenderDX:
this
This represents the worst of 49er nation. Every thread turns into a talk #$@$ about Alex session, which is beyond comprehension due to the horrible way he was mismanaged for so many years, only to reach fantastic success when he finally had a good supporting cast. Alex is a class act and fans like this don't deserve a player of his caliber. Never mind the fact that Rodgers went over 20 picks later right?
The fact is that the 2005 draft was terrible. The best player at the time was likely Braylon Edwards, and we know how that turned out. NO ONE thought AR was the #1 pick. Was Alex worthy of a #1? Of course not, but is he even in the discussion for "worst Niner pick ever"? Absolutely not. He redeemed himself in 2011 and 2012 and all those that continue to bag on him should be ashamed of themselves.
My choice for this is Jim Drukenmiller. He was obviously a terrible fit for the WCO and just not a legit NFL QB prospect. Our scouting department in the late 90's was AWFUL.
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:agree, the coaches get a little to cute with their playing calling to but thats a whole other story for a whole other thread for a whole other bottle of advil
Originally posted by cciowa:
and before people get nuts,,, i am sure juicy does not HATE the front office or want other people back. It is very ok to question the front office on moves like this but still be supportive. If i put words in juicys mouth, i am sorry. i hate jenkins but you are right,, it was not his fault he was picked that high as i am sure it came as a pleasant shock to him
I like our FO just feel they get a little "cute" with there picks sometimes. Aldon was a fantastic pick but AJ was down right horrible. Well see on Reid if he was a reach. I will say soon these 1-15 picks before balke will be leaving and well have a better picture then. I think we'll have a better picture in a year or two after we settle some contracts and these draft picks are supposed to step up.
Edit horribly written sorry. Quickly done on break
Originally posted by Dr_Bill_Walsh:
All these bad picks have to be weighted against who was the Niners GM at the time...McVeigh, Walsh and even Policy/Clark may be forgiven for most of their egregious faux pas in the draft cos their teams delivered trophies (though the Policy/Clark team dug the Niners into salary cap hell in the mid-late 90s) Walsh made the big swing and miss with Carmazzi over Brady during his short stint in the early 2000s but as stated every other team passed on Brady multiple times. Donahue was atrocious but you could argue he was given a rotting apple to begin with and he just accelerated the decay so the Niners could start rebuilding sooner rather than later...I give Nolan more credit than McCloughan for having the good drafts of 05-07 as we saw when Scotty Scotch was given more leeway in 08 how underwhelming that draft went...Baalke has been alternating between good and subpar drafts, but he has the credit along with Harbaugh of actually delivering playoff teams with the promise of more and hopefully more trophies coming...