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What is your biggest concern after seeing Broncos game (preseason)?

What is your biggest concern after seeing Broncos game (preseason)?

Originally posted by PhillyNiner:
For me it was certainly WR depth. Dont get me wrong there was flashes from guys and many didnt even play so I am not as paniced as some are, but it is looking like we need Williams and Collie to stay healthy and Rio to come back soon rather than rely on some of these dudes. Still lots of preseason left though, they all have time to change my tune.

OL...not worried we know who the backups are and they arent the problem...most of the guys you saw last night are cuts and practice squad material

CB's Cox and Aso looked great and we just added another vet body with talent.

Red zone...it was one drive..get over it.

Back up QB...this was a close second but I think the line play sort of pushes this down a bit. McCoy getting hurt could be bad... but pending the test results no panic yet.

Turnovers...they dont worry me in the first preseason game...but if the same guy has a few more scattered through the rest of the way, they might not be regular season material.

Agree with this. Also, in respect to OL, the unit plays together. We know who the backups are, and they fit in with the starter squad well.
Originally posted by JiksJuicy:
Seeing Dawsons kicks.
Drive killing penalties
Getting burned on ST again

dam i forgot about dawson sucking too, yea that was disheartning to see too, thought he was a big upgrade....
No doubt NFL parity sucks. I'm worried about depth of the entire team. Our starters look terrific...the back ups don't.
Originally posted by Disp:
Only thing that worries me is LMJ's hands. His fumbles last year were a massive concern to me, and I'm really hoping his extra size and strength helps him hold onto it better. He had 4 fumbles last year on less than 40 touches (counting the fumbles vs. the Falcons and Patriots even though they weren't technically fumbles since the play was called dead right before). He can't continue to have the ball knocked out of his hands on 10% of his touches. Even with how explosive he can be, I still consider him a liability until he can correct his ball security.



I agree he needs to work on ball security, however, it appeared the handoff on the play he fumbled last night was jammed in too high. It appeared to bounce of his chest protector and away from his hands. That ball should have been down lower, into his gut instead of up so high. Of course, being such a short guy that puts more pressure on the QB to make sure he gets down low enough to put the ball where it should go, however, Gore is also relatively short so that adjustment to get the ball to James should not be a big issue. Still, James needs to secure the football even in the case of an exchange that is not perfect.
Originally posted by NinerBuff:
Concerned:

  • WR play until Manningham and Williams are healthy, when Crabs is back, we'll be fine. Until then, it should be tough.
  • O-line play if/when we get an injury to our starting group.
  • QB play if Kaep goes down (which will pretty much signal the end of the season for any team)

No Concerned:

  • Pass Rush - have multiple levels of pass rushers
  • TE - Vernon + McDonald + Celek is a great TE corp
  • RB - Gore + James + Hunter + Dixon will be strong
  • Boldin - Beast
  • Secondary (surprisingly, Reid looks legit)
  • 1st team O-line (Davis got beat by a ridiculous spin move by Miller, but Kaep is too fast for even Miller)
I don't think we can judge backup QB play based on last night. Here is why:

I will likely get flamed for this because I understand it is high heresy to criticize the great Jim Harbaugh, however, Harbaugh gave Tolzien and McCoy no chance last night. By playing both QBs behind the backup OL while Denver's first string defense was still on the field was just plain dumb. If, either of those two guys have to come into a regular season game, they will NOT be playing behind the backup OL. Consequently, it would have made a lot more sense, and given everyone a much better idea of how they could function, had they been able to play behind the 1st string guys.

Back up QB in this league is a HUGE deal. You have to have someone who can come in and win games, not just keep the ball from falling on the ground, if you are going to get into the playoffs. Therefore, extra time needs to be given to doing everything you can to make sure you have a guy who can do that. This is even more true for the 49ers this coming season than last. Last year everyone knew that Alex Smith could come in to relieve Kaepernick if he were injured. However, that is no longer the case. As important as it is to solve the WR issue, picking the right backup QB is even more important.

Last night, in terms of identifying which of the the two primary candidates is the better backup was a waste of time. Moreover, the fact McCoy suffered an injury while trying to play behind a bunch of guys who will not even make the roster was an inexcusable piece of dumb by Harbaugh. The fact Denver chose to keep their first string defense on the field as long as they did gave Harbaugh a great opportunity to get a much better feel for the most important personnel decision he will face this year, and he wasted the opportunity. Not good coaching.
Originally posted by dj43:
I don't think we can judge backup QB play based on last night. Here is why:

I will likely get flamed for this because I understand it is high heresy to criticize the great Jim Harbaugh, however, Harbaugh gave Tolzien and McCoy no chance last night. By playing both QBs behind the backup OL while Denver's first string defense was still on the field was just plain dumb. If, either of those two guys have to come into a regular season game, they will NOT be playing behind the backup OL. Consequently, it would have made a lot more sense, and given everyone a much better idea of how they could function, had they been able to play behind the 1st string guys.

Back up QB in this league is a HUGE deal. You have to have someone who can come in and win games, not just keep the ball from falling on the ground, if you are going to get into the playoffs. Therefore, extra time needs to be given to doing everything you can to make sure you have a guy who can do that. This is even more true for the 49ers this coming season than last. Last year everyone knew that Alex Smith could come in to relieve Kaepernick if he were injured. However, that is no longer the case. As important as it is to solve the WR issue, picking the right backup QB is even more important.

Last night, in terms of identifying which of the the two primary candidates is the better backup was a waste of time. Moreover, the fact McCoy suffered an injury while trying to play behind a bunch of guys who will not even make the roster was an inexcusable piece of dumb by Harbaugh. The fact Denver chose to keep their first string defense on the field as long as they did gave Harbaugh a great opportunity to get a much better feel for the most important personnel decision he will face this year, and he wasted the opportunity. Not good coaching.

Great points
AJ f**kING JENKINS









and OL depth
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Biggest concern for me is that the team is not clearing Carradine, Dial and Lattimore to play and they may all redshirt. I believe that last year when Justin got hurt it showed that we could never have enough pass rushing defensive lineman. Our D coordinator prefers to play vets so Dobson and Tuafufu will be the backs ups to Smith and Mcdonald and if either get injured their may be not enough of a pass rush to make a deep play off run.

Second concern is LaMichael james fumble. Last year he fumbled in the super bowl and again in last nights game this is a bad sign, Kendal Hunter needs to be ready.
My concern is backup QB. Second is WR2. I think Kap will make WR2 better but Harbaugh is responsible for QB2 and QB3. I know he can improve this position but I am afraid that tolzien has a low ceiling and Colt is dinged. Josh Johnson should have been retained last summer. We might have to allow Tolzien to take our playbook elsewhere
Feeling much better about the ILB position (young studs there).

But OT is a HUGE issue...the defense was constantly forces 5 yard losses. Many of our starters can play multiple positions (Looney/Kilgore, Snyder, etc.). But we need a veteran there at OT badly beyond Synder should Staley/Davis go down. And maybe one more GOOD guard.

I thought many of the WR's looked good last night: Marlon Moore, Kassim Osgood, Ricardo Lockette, Austin Collie (even Hall & Jacobs). They just didn't get many opportunities b/c the QB's were under duress. And again, with VD and McDonald and Boldin dominating, how many 3+ WR sets are we really going to run esp. given how often we run out of the Q-formation (2 backs with the QB in shot gun). Williams probably already has the X spot secure with Boldin at the Z. We have a bunch of guys who can play outside, inside (slot) or both. No need to panic yet...we have about 4 outside guys who have serious speed and can used as decoys ala Randy Moss.
its pretty clear to me its the back up o-line depth. i realize a number of these guys wont be around, likely just keeping kilgore, looney and snyder. but man if that chemistry amongst the starters gets f**ked with there could be some issues
Originally posted by AmpLee:
Originally posted by NineFourNiner:
TURNOVERS. They could be the difference this year.

Since our first team didn't turn it over, I'm not too concerned. I didn't like seeing LMJ fumble near the opposite endzone nor did I like seeing AJ fumble. Those guys are going to be playing with the first team from time to time, so I'd like to see them make an effort to secure the ball better. The rest of the turnovers (and lack of production in general) were largely a product of very poor blocking by guys who are never going to make the team to begin with.
Agree to disagree 2-14 season coming.
penalties, anthony davis, and not playing smart football.
Our WR's suck bad. Wow they are so bad after Boldin. And Boldin is so slow. Great in a different way but slow. Our O Line after our starters is horrific. We better not have any injuries there. I like Tolzien a lot and think he played ok. But it's clear the dropoff from #1 QB to anybody else is just massive. We are in big trouble if Kaep goes down. CB concerns me a lot with the Culliver injury.
OL depth and WRs