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winners & losers: preseason game 1

Originally posted by BadgerHawk:
Originally posted by 49oz2superbowl: Winners: Boldin, Reid, McDonald, Lemonier, Cox, Dixon, Collie, Dobbs
Losers: 2nd/3rd string OL, Jenkins, Tolzien, McCoy

Not gonna lie, I was a little disappointed that we didn't give BJ Daniels a shot. Tolzien is too limited of an athlete to ever be a decent NFL qb.

Don't agree and neither does Coach Harbaugh apparently. Tolzein is serviceable. Is he starter material no, but he can play in NFL.
Not a big Tolzien supporter...but I agree with Badger here, there would clearly be a big difference if he had more time, the line play drops off fast behind our starters and two or three backups. It was the cumilative effect of having all the back ups in that made things so dicey. Nice thing is 2-3 back ups is all we will probably need as those guys all play the entire interior and Boone can kick out to Tackle. Still it would be nice to see one pure tackle backup on the roster that isnt scary raw or scary bad.
It's only the first pre-Season game and the next episode will tell more.

The Good: First Teams offense, Defense, ST were very good. Really Liked Boldin! Kap is going to have a super season.
Offense - McDonald, Kilgore, Osgood, Collie stood out IMO

Defense - Lemonier = WOW!, Wilhoite gave me confidence, Moore was solid, I;ve been down on Dixon for years BUT he stepped up BIG-time, Ian played solid and will be a big improvement over RJF/Soap, Asomug will be excellent and a difference maker this season

ST: Cox was excellent, Lee was Lee, Dawson will be solid w/Jennings snapping

The Bad: The 2nd string OLine - Dorsey disappointed, AJ - doesn't seem hungry or tough,

?: I thought Tolzein played well with a crappy OLine BUT he needs to get better for me to be confident




Originally posted by K1ngCoopa24:
If I had to call the week 1 starters vs GB at wide receiver it would be Boldin, Collie, Williams, Patton and Jenkins. I've got this feeling about Collie that he could be a major impact player for us this season. When Mario comes back he gets the #2 and Collie goes to the 3.

I think we're going to run the ball a ton to start the season because of the WR situation, and mix in PA passes. Kap is going to make any of our WRs look good, but I feel the bulk of the receptions are going to Boldin/VD/KW weeks 1-3 or 4 until we find our breakout guy or until MM comes back healthy. Jenkins is getting plenty of opps and just isn't making the best of them.

Just hope we survive the 1st 4-5 weeks above .500, which is pretty doable.
I didn't see the game...usually don't watch the first one, sometimes the first two of 'em. I think many of you are putting waaay too much stock in what you saw...this was the 1st preseason game for both teams, and neither distinguished themselves offensively. The Denver TD was defensive...a cheapie. The 3rd preseason game's the one to really watch...it's where the starters play the most snaps and the competition for the b/u's really gets serious. I liked the defensive output of our LB's and Reid last night, but again, I wouldn't get too excited or down based on the 1st preseason game. McDonald had 4 catches...that's encouraging. Again, though, what our guys do in the last couple of preseason games will tell us a lot more about our team than this one did.
how long was the missed field goal last night by dawson?
Originally posted by 49ersss:
Originally posted by robniner:
WINNERS: Reid and the 1st team offense, Vance McDonald, Eric Reid

LOSERS: The backup QBs, Okoye.

How did Okoye lose? Did he even play?

Yup he came in with about 5 minutes left in the game as more of a DT #78. The camera angles on him were awful... Funny thing is on a few of his plays he was actually being double teamed and on some other plays he held his location well enough. He didn't do that bad.

Dirty
Originally posted by ilikecows699:
how long was the missed field goal last night by dawson?

He paid tribute to the late David Akers by blowing a 32-yard attempt.
Originally posted by Beezy33:
I think we're going to run the ball a ton to start the season because of the WR situation, and mix in PA passes. Kap is going to make any of our WRs look good, but I feel the bulk of the receptions are going to Boldin/VD/KW weeks 1-3 or 4 until we find our breakout guy or until MM comes back healthy. Jenkins is getting plenty of opps and just isn't making the best of them.

Just hope we survive the 1st 4-5 weeks above .500, which is pretty doable.

We already run the ball too much. We have a qb who elevates the receiver play, so I don't think we will run it any more than usual. It would be absurd to run the ball 70% of the time. If anything just stay balanced, no need to rely heavily on the run.
Obviously, Lemonier, Reid, MacDonald were very nice. Lemonier is wicked fast coming off the line. He looks like he could be the real deal as a pass rusher. And some of Reid's tackles look like textbook examples on the perfect method. MacDonald was real good - one drop, but a few real good receptions. I'm not panicking on
Jenkins yet - that was a pretty good snag and quick attempt to split the defenders for YAC he had there. He just should have tucked that thing away quicker.


I loved the way all of Kap's passing plays were standard pocket plays - no running around except when he was flushed from the pocket. I noticed the great Von Miller couldn't get a hand on him. I just have a feeling Kaepernick is going to absolutely roll this year. And, he already knows he can fire one in there to Boldin even if he is tightly covered - very nice.

Bottom line - the offensive 1's sustained a seven and a half minute drive against the Bronco 1's and the defensive 1's stopped the patented Peyton Manning no-huddle without Patrick Willis and Justin Smith in the game - that's nothing but a positive showing.

The only thing that really bothered me was the O-line after the starters went out - no decent run blocking and no pass protection.
Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:
He paid tribute to the late David Akers by blowing a 32-yard attempt.

Err it was a 44 or 48 yard attempt.
It was a 44-harder. Strangely, he missed a couple in that range last season, but was 7 for 7 in attempts over 50 yards.
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Originally posted by K1ngCoopa24:
We already run the ball too much. We have a qb who elevates the receiver play, so I don't think we will run it any more than usual. It would be absurd to run the ball 70% of the time. If anything just stay balanced, no need to rely heavily on the run.
we do not run the ball to much.. it is what we do best. you got the best run game and run blocking line in the nfl you do need to run the ball, I think this is the type of team if you get down by two or three scores in the second half it will hard to get the ball and come back on. Please do not think we are going to start to sling it all over the field, we do not run the ball to much
I got home late and missed almost the entire first half of the game. Did our first team defense (or whats left of it) take the field?
Originally posted by Gore_21:
I did up,down or even.

Michael Wilhoite - Up - Like I have said looks to be the #3 ILB favorite. I would place Moody at 4 and Stupar as not making the team.
Parys Haralson - Up - We needed him last year and losing him hurt. Glad to have him back and you better believe he is our #3 OLB.
Corey Lemonier - Up - I would put him at the #4 OLB spot
Dan Skuta - Up - 2 Sacks and could make the roster as the # 5 OLB, Johnson is in a uphill climb right now.
Eric Reid - Up - Got plenty of reps, much more than Spillman and Dahl and looks like he is the favorite to start IMO
Perrish Cox - Up - Not sure why he hasn't seen more reps as return man but had 2 great returns and did really well at CB. I would put him in a fight for #3 with Asomugha and Brock at #5.
Asomugha - Up - No idea why people keep saying he is on the roster bubble. I see him in a fight for the #3 CB behind Brown and Rogers.
Tolzien - Up - McCoy was hurt and I didn't like everything he did but has advantage on Daniels for the #3 spot as he didn't get to play.
#1 Offense - Up - Brutal watching the difference between our first string offense (OL included) and watching the 2nd and 3rd string offense and offensive line
McDonald - Up - If he can control his drops he is going to be a great safety blanket this year. Some nice blocks as well including a pancake.
Dixon - Up - Guy is running like he was suppose to years ago. With Hampton not playing? and Harper's 2 carries resulting in a fumble for TD and negative yards doesn't look like Dixon is going any where
Osgood - Up - Led us in receiving and had a few nice ST plays but he is up there in age and not sure he offers much for the future and at WR once the regular season starts.

2nd String OL - Down - Many missed blocks resulting in a touch down, a hurt QB and a fumble by Harper. Nobody really stood out to me on the OL at 2nd and 3rd string but didn't watch them too closely. Seems like Snyder and Kilgore are locks and might be one or 2 more spots available. Looney? Wiggins?
Jenkins - Down - Nice catch but has to hold onto the ball. Another time not sure what happened but wasn't looking for the ball. I hope nobody blames the int by McCoy on Jenkins because that wasn't his fault. We need to give the ball to him on some reverses and give him some easy catches to get his confidence up. If we don't we are just asking for him to fail.

Rest of WR's - Even - Collie with a nice 4th down catch, Lockette with 2 drawn penalties and a nice ST tackle at the 1, Jacobs could be PS and complete next year. Hawkins I would say down and seems out... 2 drops. Moore had a catch early and is it me or does the guy have a lot in common and look a lot like a bigger Ted Ginn? Hall I think had a catch or two but bottom line and I know it's only game one but not sure any one distance themselves from the rest. Part of it was the 2nd string OL and the QB's at times. With Boldin, Williams, Manningham as the top 3 and Patton a lock but unable to play we just need some guys to step up. Expect a lot from Davis and McDonald this year and the trio of RBs. Jenkins, Lockette, Collie, Hall, Moore, Osgood, Jacobs, Hawkins. I doubt we cut Jenkins so that leaves 1 spot (unless Manningham goes to the PUP) and we need 1 guy to stand above the rest and make it impossible to cut him. Hopefully it isn't all even at 10-30 yards a piece a game.


If anyone watched the OL (Kilgore, Looney, Wiggins etc) closely would love to here your stock watch rating. Anyone watch Okoye?

Great stuff man
I gotta give props to Parys Haralson. Nice comeback performance. He can add true veteran LB depth.

Cam Johnson was bleh.