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winners & losers: preseason game 1

  • Kolohe
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
Winners: Reid, Lemonier, Ian Williams, Cox, McDonald

Losers: Jenkins, backup O Line sucks bad. McCoy

Even: Tolzien. Made some real good throws. Some bad ones too. Wasn't as accurate as usual. Still on balance not a bad overall game. In running for 2nd string for sure. Good understanding of the offense. Gets ball out quick. Usually accurate.

This was a reason I didn't list him as a loser. I agree.

I don't think you can call him a loser in this game. It clearly wasn't his best. But his read and recognition is far better than McCoy at this point. And he made some real accurate throws too. He even had some terrible drops happen too. I think the Tennessee guy we just signed dropped a few and some others. He actually threw some super accurate balls that were just flat out dropped. Like low and away where only the WR can catch them but dropped it instead. He only threw one really terrible ball that I can remember. Remember also the O Line 2nd and 3rd string played awful. So with what he had and the drops right in guys hands that were good throws I don't think he did that bad.

Agreed with everything you just said. Also thought the INT was on Chuck Jacobs hitched the wrong way on his route, notice the pass was on the outside and he turned in. Overall it wasn't as bad as it looked, he could've done a little better with his decisions but that's what preseason is for.
Originally posted by buck:
Originally posted by jreff22:
Once he is back (like able to play) it will take him a few weeks to knock the rust off. He wont be in mid season form like the rest of the team.

OK.
Too bad we do not know when he will be back. I am guessing that he goes on the PUP.

Yes. If we aren't razor thin at the position and losing, I assume Harbs brings him back slooooow. No need to rush him back with the chance of reinjury....also having fresh legs later in the season will be a good thing.
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
With no OL passblocking, it is impossible to rate our WRs, tho Chad Hall looked good and Lockette looked like a rocket, even to he got held twice. You want a starter, at WR? Collie hands down, but he has played with the best, peyton. We need to see any Qb and 1st team OL to rate our WRs. Without 1st string OL, anything you see out there is wiped out by a 2nd and 3rd string Ol that couldn't block an 86 yr old in a nursing home. So still too early to rate WRs.

THIS
Our Special Teams and Defense will be very good this year. After getting a look at the rooks Reid, McDonald and Lemonier I can't wait to see Tank get on the field
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Originally posted by FrankGoreHOF:
Here it goes.....

I thought Glenn Dorsey was going to make an impact on defense for us this year. I was dead wrong! he looked fat, slow, out of shape, and like he had no drive to play hard. that said, I saw him push back a third string guard and almost make a tackle. If he wasn't held he might have made the tackle.

I saw forth and fifth string wideouts that looked three times better then Jenkins. Jenkins was in the wrong place on a scramble play one time. He got knocked on his ass coming in motion when it looked like he was supposed to go to the flats. Then, on the one play he made a good catch and turned it up field he coughed it up. It really looks like he might get cut.

Corey Lemonier blew my mind!! He was in the backfield every play. He overpowered pretty much everyone he was matched up against and looks like a started and a impact player, RIGHT NOW!!! Corey Lemonier is going to play a lot this season. The only thing is that Harrylson looks great too.

Reid did pretty good. He made some good hits, albeit they were after first downs had already been made, but good solid hits.
"fat"
that's always been my problem with dorsey. he's always been fat.
he's a good athlete; has good flexibility; has good joint range of motion. he should be much better, but he's always fat and out of shape. he has to lack desire.
Originally posted by ModestoNiner33:
Our Special Teams and Defense will be very good this year. After getting a look at the rooks Reid, McDonald and Lemonier I can't wait to see Tank get on the field


I'm really disappointed that Tank is not ready. I was under the impression that he was going to be ready for training camp when we drafted him. If he misses all of camp, they probably won't work him into the rotation until at least mid-season.

Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
With no OL passblocking, it is impossible to rate our WRs, tho Chad Hall looked good and Lockette looked like a rocket, even to he got held twice. You want a starter, at WR? Collie hands down, but he has played with the best, peyton. We need to see any Qb and 1st team OL to rate our WRs. Without 1st string OL, anything you see out there is wiped out by a 2nd and 3rd string Ol that couldn't block an 86 yr old in a nursing home. So still too early to rate WRs.

THIS

I agree to an extent. There were way too many screwed up routes from the receivers though. Fortunately there's still 4 weeks of preseason left for them to figure it out, but the WR's as a whole were bad tonight in areas that had nothing to do with pass protection.
Tough night for McCoy. Scheduled for an MRI on that shoulder. He said it's just a precaution and probably no big deal.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/football-san-francisco-49ers/mccoy-scheduled-mri-exam
Dobbs is preseason all pro. I hope to see dobbs against some number 1s this preseason to see if he improved. Dobbs got his arse kicked during the regular season last year.
Tolzein was obviously going to be more decisive in his decision making due to the comfort level he has with the offense. That's the difference between him and McCoy right now.
I didn't think Tolzien played badly at all, wasn't a great performance, wasn't a bad one either, he made a few mental errors, but also had a few really nice passes, all in all he looked decent, he looked the part of a guy destined to be a quality NFL backup, nothing more.
Originally posted by defenderDX:
Tolzein was obviously going to be more decisive in his decision making due to the comfort level he has with the offense. That's the difference between him and McCoy right now.

I really like Tolzien's ability to work through his progressions, but damn, watching him throw makes me nervous. His passes travel in slow-motion. I keep thinking his sideline throws are gonna get pick 6'ed lol.
Originally posted by fister30:
Dobbs is preseason all pro. I hope to see dobbs against some number 1s this preseason to see if he improved. Dobbs got his arse kicked during the regular season last year.

Looking forward to Carradine and Dial hopefully soon moving Dobbs and Tukuafu down the depth chart or possibly one off the roster. I have said this before but those guys might be good finds/solid players for UDFA's and would be great for a lot of teams but we have higher standards. Hopefully some time this season we see Carradine as the #3 DE backing up McDonald/Smith and getting consistent pressure when in.
[ Edited by Gore_21 on Aug 9, 2013 at 12:21 AM ]
Ups Players in the cb competition they all did pretty good, Eric Reid he popped a few receivers to make me say Dashon who?!? Lemonier and Skuta did good jobs making themselves known tonight also.

Downs oline backups pressure pressure pressure it was never ending.

Nuetral Tolzien he escaped pressure well a few times but when you gotta man open throw it to him and when your gunna throw to a receiver put it on target, Mccoy same deal. Jenkins was on the field more then the rest of the receivers open alot ran routes well, but dammit when the ball is in your hands hold on for life and shed whatever mental ghosts are haunting you from last season.
Originally posted by Gore_21:
Originally posted by Kolohe:
This was a reason I didn't list him as a loser. I agree.

On top of those things I put him as a winner because Daniels didn't get to play QB tonight so that automatically upped his stock for the #3 (or maybe 2).


niners should carry only 2 qbs on final roster