Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
How is signing Dorsey , drafting d line AND drafting a 3rd rd rush LB, not trying to improve the pass rush?
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Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
How is signing Dorsey , drafting d line AND drafting a 3rd rd rush LB, not trying to improve the pass rush?
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
How is signing Dorsey and drafting d line not trying to improve the pass rush?
Originally posted by NCommand:Fully agree. They need to become more creative and really get after the QB with press coverage from the CB's.
Really, the point I've been making all off season is "Scheme is the Theme for 2013." This is a veteran defense now and NOW it's up to Fangio to scheme more pass rush this year with some creativity rather than perpetually playing the straight-up 3-4 base. Aldon, Brooks, Bowman, Willis, Johnson, Lemonier, etc. should all be schemed to rush from various positions and play interchangeably more rather than three of these guys often times being relegated to underneath/zone coverage.
Originally posted by saj4423:I was happy when I heard Fangio was coming here to run the defense. Having worked under Dom Capers, who runs some of the most creative blitz schemes in the league, I expected to see some of that here. However, that has not been the case. The stuff Fangio has been running here is pretty vanilla compared to Capers stuff. It would seem that more variety in the packages would be a part of the solution. As it is, I do not expect a great deal more than last season.
Originally posted by NCommand:Fully agree. They need to become more creative and really get after the QB with press coverage from the CB's.
Really, the point I've been making all off season is "Scheme is the Theme for 2013." This is a veteran defense now and NOW it's up to Fangio to scheme more pass rush this year with some creativity rather than perpetually playing the straight-up 3-4 base. Aldon, Brooks, Bowman, Willis, Johnson, Lemonier, etc. should all be schemed to rush from various positions and play interchangeably more rather than three of these guys often times being relegated to underneath/zone coverage.
Originally posted by dj43:
Originally posted by saj4423:I was happy when I heard Fangio was coming here to run the defense. Having worked under Dom Capers, who runs some of the most creative blitz schemes in the league, I expected to see some of that here. However, that has not been the case. The stuff Fangio has been running here is pretty vanilla compared to Capers stuff. It would seem that more variety in the packages would be a part of the solution. As it is, I do not expect a great deal more than last season.
Originally posted by NCommand:Fully agree. They need to become more creative and really get after the QB with press coverage from the CB's.
Really, the point I've been making all off season is "Scheme is the Theme for 2013." This is a veteran defense now and NOW it's up to Fangio to scheme more pass rush this year with some creativity rather than perpetually playing the straight-up 3-4 base. Aldon, Brooks, Bowman, Willis, Johnson, Lemonier, etc. should all be schemed to rush from various positions and play interchangeably more rather than three of these guys often times being relegated to underneath/zone coverage.
Originally posted by dtg_9er:
thl408--Premise of your post seems muddy to me. You say the two rookies are unknown, then conclude the pass rush will be the same, which does not follow a logical track.
Here are your points:
- Middle: A wash.
- Rookies: Tank and Lemonier (maybe Dial down the road) are unknown.
- Health: Justin and Aldon are healthy and will be fresher.
That seems to lead to a logical conclusion that the 9er pass rush will be better by a lot or a little depending on the rookies and the luck of health.
My counter points:
- CK is a much more quick strike QB and will bring the defense back onto the field faster. Depth is key to withstanding this change...as we saw last season, it wears down the DL. Depth is now greater.
- Haralson may bring a great deal of stability to the rotation that was missing last year.
- The two rookies seem to be best attacking, which should be useful in pass rush situations, but will hurt run defense (if Tank sees the field at all this year).
- I believe Soap was better than many believe and will be missed when playing against teams with power in the middle of the OLine.
Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
How is signing Dorsey and drafting d line not trying to improve the pass rush?
Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:this is the truth, bottom line,, we hope so, we think so, with the guys they drafted and by signing dorsey, it should. we also are thinking that there is no way it can be worse than last year. But as chip says , we will really do not know. we all know what it means if our depth is the same or even worse than last year now what earnie and robby douglas think about things is a whole other story
We will see...
Originally posted by GNielsen:my lord this is the truth,, you know I was bored the other night and watched that playoff game on youtube and i forgot just how much the niners made the packers defense look like a bunch of dummies,,, I also was very surprised in looking back how much criticism troy aikman threw at capers that night!!
You guys are talking about Dom Capers, right? You guys are saying the defense needs to be more like the Dom Capers style defense?
Would that be the same Dom Capers who fashioned a defense that allowed the Niners to ring up 579 yards and 45 points in the playoffs last season?
Just sayin...
Yeah, I'd like to see some more aggressive blitzing as well, but Capers is not exactly the poster boy for how you stop somebody these days.
Originally posted by GNielsen:
You guys are talking about Dom Capers, right? You guys are saying the defense needs to be more like the Dom Capers style defense?
Would that be the same Dom Capers who fashioned a defense that allowed the Niners to ring up 579 yards and 45 points in the playoffs last season?
Just sayin...
Yeah, I'd like to see some more aggressive blitzing as well, but Capers is not exactly the poster boy for how you stop somebody these days.