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Trent-Jim relationship issues? (pure conjecture...reading the tea leaves)

Originally posted by xcfan:
i'm of the opinion that the head coach's scope of influence should be more broad, to include GM duties. taking a model from the military, the head coach should be closer to a General's status, someone with a broad landscape of football wisdom, who can make decisions without a personal, detailed analysis of every fact because his experience deems it unnecessary. he appoints technically competent people to carry out his vision, and doesn't bog down and waste time with minutia.

a head coach knows which type of players he wants, and would have people under him who understand his specific vision, and who grind the hours in their duties, bringing the results to the coach for evaluation. essentially, a situation where the gm is working under and answering to the head coach. that produces the best product on the field. the owner and his representatives have to take responsibility for hiring and firing this team general--but the general runs the show. winning determines whether the owner continues to maintain status quo.
taking the power of player selection out of the hands of the wisest person is a mistake. the head coach should be the wisest person who produces and directs the show. the head coach as the technically competent leader in all phases is what will produce the strongest, most unified vision, making game-day work without weakness.

the head coach/ GM conflict is a problem of unnatural application of rank. the gm should not be above or equal to the head coach. that's my opinion.

An interesting post worthy of its own thread. And I disagree with you.

I see the GM as the strategist, planning the direction of the team long term whilst the HC acts as a tactician. If they are on the sane page and able you get to be a perennial challenger. If not, see TDon and DE for further details.

I think the HC has quite enough on his plate as it is. Most of the HCs who picked up GM responsibilities as well seem to have bombed.
Originally posted by English:
An interesting post worthy of its own thread. And I disagree with you.

I see the GM as the strategist, planning the direction of the team long term whilst the HC acts as a tactician. If they are on the sane page and able you get to be a perennial challenger. If not, see TDon and DE for further details.

I think the HC has quite enough on his plate as it is. Most of the HCs who picked up GM responsibilities as well seem to have bombed.
Holmgren. GB to SEA. Big difference
For f**ks sake.
Originally posted by okdkid:
For f**ks sake.

29 pages of it.
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Jesus Christ.


lmao. I was waiting for her to get flipped upside down.

Wow, I found myself staring at this for a whole minute hoping for more......hehehe.

I can tell you from experience that nothing happens after 5 minutes either.

Ok, switch shift, I'll let you guys know if anything happens after an hour.

lol. Teamwork at its finest.
Eric Branch #49ers GM Trent Baalke said on @957thegame he wanted to sign Owen Marecic, but former Stanford FB didn't want to play in NFL now.
So the Kawasaki story had no substance as Harbaugh and Trent weren't in disagreement over Marecic signing.
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
So the Kawasaki story had no substance as Harbaugh and Trent weren't in disagreement over Marecic signing.

This. He fabricated a story and created a distraction to the team. f**k Tim K.
Originally posted by pahlerbj:
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by 808niner4lyphe:
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Originally posted by okdkid:
Jesus Christ.


lmao. I was waiting for her to get flipped upside down.

Wow, I found myself staring at this for a whole minute hoping for more......hehehe.

I can tell you from experience that nothing happens after 5 minutes either.

after 30 mins also either,.....
iLL says Kawakami's sources say that the 31st minute is where it happens
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
Eric Branch #49ers GM Trent Baalke said on @957thegame he wanted to sign Owen Marecic, but former Stanford FB didn't want to play in NFL now.

I said this in an earlier post. I just thought his persona didn't seem like a natural fit in this league. Smart guy to know when it's not right for you. Glen Coffee
edit: mischief
[ Edited by swayze on Dec 20, 2013 at 11:09 PM ]
edit: such tomfoolery.

As to the comparison to a general, above: a general has a staff that presents courses of action (G1 personnel, G2 intelligence/security, G3 operations etc). He provides an intent and, given a situation, draw a number of options for him to choose from. I see a head coach being a little more hands on. President (Jed York) is probably more like a general.

To expand on that, then, HC would be more like the G3 Operations Chief, and GM would be G1.
[ Edited by swayze on Dec 20, 2013 at 11:20 PM ]
Originally posted by Mertonschickendance:
So the Kawasaki story had no substance as Harbaugh and Trent weren't in disagreement over Marecic signing.

tim k not lookin good at all
The most credible source ever, Mike Florio, just wrote an article on PFT claiming that the tension between Baalke and Harbaugh is real and that this is just the beginning of the end for Jim's tenure as head coach, in so many words and it came from a "league" source. Stupid lame attempt to restart some kind of controversy because it has lost steam and is fizzling out. Mike Florio, biggest f***ing douchebag ever. I'd like to see him get into an MMA cage with Harbaugh so he can kick his everlivin' ass.
Originally posted by ninerjok:
The most credible source ever, Mike Florio, just wrote an article on PFT claiming that the tension between Baalke and Harbaugh is real and that this is just the beginning of the end for Jim's tenure as head coach, in so many words and it came from a "league" source. Stupid lame attempt to restart some kind of controversy because it has lost steam and is fizzling out. Mike Florio, biggest f***ing douchebag ever. I'd like to see him get into an MMA cage with Harbaugh so he can kick his everlivin' ass.

Also says in that article that the TK story is part of the source of the info......

Amazing. Must be a slow news cycle.