There are 127 users in the forums

Remember
Not a member? Register Now!

Trent-Jim relationship issues? (pure conjecture...reading the tea leaves)

Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by KegBert:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by KegBert:
This, Jim and Trent don't get along, theory will end up in the garbage just like Jim going to Texas. The media's just doing its job, they have to stir the pot to get views, doesn't mean you have to buy into all of it though.

well, the media isn't the one stirring the pot, someone else is stirring the pot by leaking stuff to kawakami, he's just reporting it

this regime has been leak proof for 3yrs..this is the first leak into the inner workings of this regime.

remember when we had dingleberry "there is a rat in the building" hahaha there were so many leaks

I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but tell me why I should dive right in and believe Timmy K and this unnamed "source" when TK already has a history of stirring up s**t?

he's been on point on all his stuff w/ the new regime, i've been paying attention he's definitely tied in w/ some good sources w/ this regime.

maiocco used to be the one breaking all these things under the previous regime

I'll be honest I don't read much TK at all. I soured on him back in 2011. When Harbs first became coach he implemented a lot of restrictions on the media access to the team, that where not previously
In place. Us fans loved the idea of being more secretive, the media not so much.

During the height of this I saw TK and Lowell Cohn on CSN Bay Area and they did nothing but talk s**t about Harbs and try to rally the fans against the coaches. It was some of the most juvenile behavior I have ever seen from a member of the media. Haven't gone out of my way to read anything of his since. In conclusion TK is a baby-back b***h and I have no respect for him as a professional, plus I'm partial to Barrows and Cam Inman anyway.
[ Edited by KegBert on Dec 18, 2013 at 11:57 AM ]
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
TK is a hack. He's the new Skip Bayless. He does and says stuff just to get attention. He may have something from time to time but he'll always skew it the way he wants the story told.

completely wrong but we can agree to disagree...

Tim's reporting on this new regime has been the most on point

also, it wasn't a coincidence that early this season it was Tim who asked harbaugh about an extension at the press conference, he has sources he's the first one who got wind of this

he's been very very tapped in to this regime


Yeah...agree to disagree.

TK has his sources so I don't argue that his information is completely wrong....I'm only saying that he scews the information in a direction that gets him the most attention possible. Thats his way.

We can agree to disagree, but I can't stand the guy. Only the Cohens are worse. At least Tim actually has a clue. Same can't be said for the other.
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
The first time GM was hired first specifically to hire the coach. Both went on to win the annual award. The front office built a roster that only needed to get better at QB. Harbaugh fixed that and we took off. The GM had a better roster than the Ravens last year but the coach didn't run the ball from second and five. Now I happen to think both men are indispensable and that personnel evaluators should acquire talent and the coaches should coach and develop the talent. We need both guys

Baalke was hired as GM January 4th and Harbaugh was hired January 7th... So he was hired to conduct a 1-2 day coaching search?

if i re-call at that time, baalke's only goal was to get jim harbaugh

I think we can credit Jed York more then Baalke with that.

why? baalke is the one who sat up for hours talking football w/ harbaugh and got harbaugh to buy in

See how this is over blown..

Baalke was hired because of his ties with Jim Harbaugh and it is why JH was hired so quickly

I read that here on the zone from a local link when we were going through that coaching debacle.

TK is reaching here
Originally posted by Marvin49:
Originally posted by iLL49er:
Originally posted by Marvin49:
TK is a hack. He's the new Skip Bayless. He does and says stuff just to get attention. He may have something from time to time but he'll always skew it the way he wants the story told.

completely wrong but we can agree to disagree...

Tim's reporting on this new regime has been the most on point

also, it wasn't a coincidence that early this season it was Tim who asked harbaugh about an extension at the press conference, he has sources he's the first one who got wind of this

he's been very very tapped in to this regime


Yeah...agree to disagree.

TK has his sources so I don't argue that his information is completely wrong....I'm only saying that he scews the information in a direction that gets him the most attention possible. Thats his way.

We can agree to disagree, but I can't stand the guy. Only the Cohens are worse. At least Tim actually has a clue. Same can't be said for the other.
JH contract is coming to an end.....hmm lets see how i can stir things up at the this press conference

lets also let everyone think that it's Baalke negotiating the contracts and not Praage/Jed
[ Edited by 49AllTheTime on Dec 18, 2013 at 12:00 PM ]
  • Jcool
  • Veteran
  • Posts: 14,892
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Baalke was hired as GM January 4th and Harbaugh was hired January 7th... So he was hired to conduct a 1-2 day coaching search?
Its what Jed said. His belief was that the owner should pick the GM and the GM should pick the coach. This is the structure Jed York was after and I believe it to be the correct one. There is no Jerrah World stuff going on over here. It's the right way to do things. Baalke will know much more about today's prospects than Harbaugh knew about yesterday's. Trent in on the road scouting still while Harbaugh is busy coaching to win. Harbaugh college recruits are playing in the NFL by now and I believe Trent has the better eye on things as of now in the collegiate ranks

Jed had Harbaugh as his #1 choice before he named Baalke as GM and even got Harbaugh's okay before he offered him the job.

"The source also emphasized that Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh remains far and away the team's No. 1 target and has signed off on either Lombardi or Baalke as the GM."
Originally posted by Jcool:
Jed had Harbaugh as his #1 choice before he named Baalke as GM and even got Harbaugh's okay before he offered him the job.

"The source also emphasized that Stanford coach Jim Harbaugh remains far and away the team's No. 1 target and has signed off on either Lombardi or Baalke as the GM."

I remember this as well yet still I found it symbolic that Jed vocally made the point that he should hire the GM and the GM should hire the coach. It spoke volumes to me. We all knew Jim was targeted mid season before the Singletary firing BUT Jed knows that the proper hierarchy is owner GM HC
Harbaugh strikes me as a guy that will stick up for his guys but you need a cold and calculating GM in today's salary capped era to make the hard decisions. I don't want any coach to stand in the way of Paraag and his genious ways. We have to let Baalke do his job with input from coach. Its the way it should be. This ain't college. This is about a salary cap right now not some scholarships. We need the pros that understand it on the job and allowed to do it
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Harbaugh strikes me as a guy that will stick up for his guys but you need a cold and calculating GM in today's salary capped era to make the hard decisions. I don't want any coach to stand in the way of Paraag and his genious ways. We have to let Baalke do his job with input from coach. Its the way it should be. This ain't college. This is about a salary cap right now not some scholarships. We need the pros that understand it on the job and allowed to do it

Pretty much agree, though Harbaugh should have SOME say in who stays and who goes. Obviously, they'll force him to make some tough decisions based on the cap parameters, but like Parcells said many years ago, "If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries."
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Pretty much agree, though Harbaugh should have SOME say in who stays and who goes. Obviously, they'll force him to make some tough decisions based on the cap parameters, but like Parcells said many years ago, "If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries."

I agree with you bro. This is why I say Baalke should always seek and value input from coach. It is only right and also it is smart but Baalke must sign on the line at the end of the day or it doesn't count
Originally posted by Pillbusta:
Originally posted by GhostofFredDean74:
Pretty much agree, though Harbaugh should have SOME say in who stays and who goes. Obviously, they'll force him to make some tough decisions based on the cap parameters, but like Parcells said many years ago, "If they want you to cook the dinner, at least they ought to let you shop for some of the groceries."

I agree with you bro. This is why I say Baalke should always seek and value input from coach. It is only right and also it is smart but Baalke must sign on the line at the end of the day or it doesn't count

Kawakami has been and always will be a little s**t stirrer. The guy is a complete hack, he is one notch below (or i guess it would be above) Cohn.


"Oh Jim publicly stated he wants Dawson back next year? Must be a rift with him and Baalke. Never mind the fact that Dawson has made 22 straight feild goals or whatever it is. No no, it must be a rift."


f**k him
Kawakami trying to stir the pot once again. lol I don't believe a word he says.
Originally posted by Psinex:
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Free Thread


Love her!
Originally posted by Hopper:
Kawakami trying to stir the pot once again. lol I don't believe a word he says.

do we also not believe jim trotter? cuz he reported similar from his sources....i think mike silver might have as well
http://blogs.sacbee.com/49ers/archives/2013/12/york-harbaughs-never-asked-for-more-personnel-power.html

jed is just wise beyond his years as an executive and front face of the org...what a god send
...